At no point was he ever supposed to be taking up any sort of permanent role within the club. Obviously the 2 year consultancy job was only to replace the contract he was leaving at Lokomotiv.
Ralf Rangnick's consultancy role has been scrapped
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At no point was he ever supposed to be taking up any sort of permanent role within the club. Obviously the 2 year consultancy job was only to replace the contract he was leaving at Lokomotiv.
Your club is weird.
In 2012 Rangnick was appointed as director of Football for Salzburg while Houiller was appointed as Global Football director. Houiller was the highest football man and was later replaced by Mintzlaf, his deputy, as the most senior director.
I'm sick of seeing people talking about Conte. He really would have been a disaster here, he is absolutely not what the club needs to move forward right now. The club needed ETH and reform behind the scenes.
The sacking of Rangnick is not a major blow to that goal since by all accounts Rangnick was only going to be consulting. His was not going to be any sort of major role. People need to calm down.
What a waste of time this guy was. Terrible decision to bring him on. Most useless manager yet!
Thanks, I didn't read in detail, just articles saying he is the man behind Leipzig and Hoffenheim growth.
Also I don't understand why everyone is assuming it's the decision taken by the club, good chance it was Rangnick's decision.
As fans it was great to hear Rangnick's insights but if I were in charge of the club it wouldn't be good at all. I would prefer it be dealt with in house. It is not surprising that he was let go.
Honesty is perfect but keep it in house, don't hurt the club by airing it publicly. That's also a sure fire way to create a toxic atmosphere.
I hope he left at least his scouting reports
Fair enough. If Rangnick was chosen solely as a temporary manager
a- United's choice as a temporary manager had been a disaster. Rangnick's win rate was horrible, we failed to make it top 4
b- the club offered a consultancy role to Rangnick which proved itself to be redundant and embarrassing to the club.
Someone should take responsibility alongside many many other bad decisions taken throughout the season including insisting on Ole despite his disastrous Liverpool result and letting players walk on free when we could have made some money out of them (Pogba, Lingard etc). At one point Woodward can't be used as a scapegoat anymore.
What a shitshow. Another terrible Glazer decision, amateur club.
Again you are talking about managers. Rangnick was never a spectacular manager. Surely this reflects badly on Murtough given he wanted Rangnick
Joel probably doesn't know who Rangnick is. We have football people taking football decisions now
Ragnick used us for clout and fecked off to greener pastures.
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Austria national team?
Not gonna read 17 pages 
But what a pointless appointment he turned out to be, should've just hired Rudi Garcia.
But what a pointless appointment he turned out to be, should've just hired Rudi Garcia.
What football people? Arnold, Murtaugh? Clowns all around.
Some people think that Murtough is a football genius
I don't get what the issue was with him saying what he did in public, alot of it was just basic stuff that everyone knew already, he never said anything that was contaversal at all, just the truth, and if they didn't know he was going talk like this before they hired him, then who didn't do their homework first? but it's all irrelevant if no one wants to listen to what he has to say.
We bascially hired someone with high standards, and then were surprised when he told us why we don't have any, he must have got exasperated at how simple alot of the problems were, yet how reluctant we are to change them, the fact he has now gone speaks volumes as to which way we are going .
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Nobody has since SAF has left and it doesn't seem to bother anyone. Its pretty bizarre.
Bet you we try to sign Lewandowski or some other geriatric superstar to sell shirts now. The Glazer business model will live on, long-term strategy be damned! Feck our owners, feck Arnold and feck Murtough, I don't trust any of them one bit. Ralf's mistake was being too honest, too publicly.
Hehe it's baffling. He hired Rangnick for a role (manager) that he was never that great at, only to then fire him before taking on a role he is actually good at.
Certainly big football brains on display there.
He's getting too old for this shit.
Neymar!
We might get relegated, we sacked the only honest man who spoke truths.
Appreciate the honesty here, Ed would hide this and bullshit his way for that 2 years contract, so he doesn't look bad.
We fecked up, move on.
We fecked up, move on.
An absolute pointless appointment in the end.
Yeah, this is infuriating. Brought him in to do the exact wrong job then fecked him off as soon as he was to start the thing he can actually do.
For the 'interim manager' gig you need early Ole, basically. Someone who can man-manage and motivate a bit - especially when given zero transfer funds. Rangnick made his name building clubs around a specific playstyle, signing a profile of player uniquely suited to it - all of the shit he wasn't allowed to do.
We've used the screwdriver to knock a nail in then turned around and used the hammer to tighten a screw. Fecking useless.
Obvious many united fans have no idea what a consultancy role is. Many of us on here (even though we felt like the minority) had been saying both the fans and Ralf himself was overstating his influence on the team. Every change behind the scenes was shockingly being credited to Rangnick.
I was arguing with posters in another thread that actually think ten Hag being at United was because of Rangnick. The consultancy was 6 days a month, working remotely, I honestly have no clue how it wasn't obvious that this role was an extremely limited but financially rewarding gig for Ralf. He was clearly aware to begin with but was hoping to come in and find a way to expand his powers which he clearly attempted from day one. He was never going to have any contact with ETH but you constantly heard posters repeating that he would be working closely with ETH.
Murtough is what a lot of fans think Rangnick was meant to be. Plus we have a Deputy DoF being recruited. They along with Arnold are responsible for the footballing direction of this club going forward, it was never Rangnick despite how many times he gave off that impression in his press conferences.
I was arguing with posters in another thread that actually think ten Hag being at United was because of Rangnick. The consultancy was 6 days a month, working remotely, I honestly have no clue how it wasn't obvious that this role was an extremely limited but financially rewarding gig for Ralf. He was clearly aware to begin with but was hoping to come in and find a way to expand his powers which he clearly attempted from day one. He was never going to have any contact with ETH but you constantly heard posters repeating that he would be working closely with ETH.
Murtough is what a lot of fans think Rangnick was meant to be. Plus we have a Deputy DoF being recruited. They along with Arnold are responsible for the footballing direction of this club going forward, it was never Rangnick despite how many times he gave off that impression in his press conferences.
Yep
My favourite part was a 30 minute spell against Palace 
Bad decision to hire him, right decision to cut ties.
Whatever value Rangnick could have added as a consultant it would have tainted Ten Hag’s authority being associated with a man who was a rubbish manager and was disliked by the majority of the dressing room.
If Murtough had the balls to say straight up admit jt was a mistake hiring him it might reduce the perception of this as yet more pratfalls in the Man United circus, but seriously doubt this will happen.
Whatever value Rangnick could have added as a consultant it would have tainted Ten Hag’s authority being associated with a man who was a rubbish manager and was disliked by the majority of the dressing room.
If Murtough had the balls to say straight up admit jt was a mistake hiring him it might reduce the perception of this as yet more pratfalls in the Man United circus, but seriously doubt this will happen.
Is it what happened or did he decide to focus on a managerial job that he didn't had before accepting the consultancy job?
I suspected there is something weird about that consultancy role from the beginning. In one of his earlier presses Rangnick was asked what they are planning beyond the first season and he said that there haven't been any talks about the future, which struck me as odd coming from someone who was supposedly hired to help overhaul the club.
All the best to him in the future.
All the best to him in the future.
If it's ETH pulling his weight then I don't see a problem with this. If it's not, it's really f*cking bizarre.
And somehow ManUtd fans believed he is the one who will be driving our transfers and overhaul the squad. Amazing.
Already clear evidence that he's bad at his job, even Woodward didn't expose himself this quickly. Poor ETH going from Overmars and VDS to Murtough and Arnold.
If his consultancy role was not really that big a deal, then I guess it was a horrible decision to appoint him as an interim manager. Might have just let Carrick continue if there were no better options out there.
The "consultancy" thing was probably just a sweetener to make him take the job, and ensure employment after his interim spell. He had to leave his job in Russia to come after all. But now that he has a new job, and has been revealed to be a bit shit, the consultancy makes less sense.
Not sure why some people seem to be freaking out about this. It's not as if Rangnick has boatloads of experience with trophy winning clubs, neither as manager nor as DoF.
I keep seeing this but wasn't Carrick the one that wanted to stop and focus on his family?
He also wanted to be loyal to Ole. So he probably wouldn't have taken the interim job anyway.
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