Would Van Gaal have done a better job with our current squad, rather than the squad he actually came into? I reckon he would. Not too sure why though.
Ralf Rangnick | ex-interim manager | does anyone rate him?
- Thread starter RonaldoVII
- Start date
- Status
Too good to be true, it's like a dream; proper coach, brand of modern German football, our response to Klopp and Tuchel.
Ed and Ole are long gone, fresh air; we are a well-run club again.
Ed and Ole are long gone, fresh air; we are a well-run club again.
Just pay him a cash in hand so he’s not officially ‘working’.
What are they going to check? I'm not even sure his presence at Carrington would be an issue. They won't have him there because that would be taking the piss but absolutely no way he's just sat in his room or whatever with zero input on the team
If you're coming to a country with the intent to work and you don't have a visa you'll be turned back at the first point of entry. Border services will check your phone, computer and anything else you might have that mentions a working arrangement. Ragnick really can't assume any duties until that visa is in place.
They're not going to go through his phone and laptop
Under what authority? I'm assuming they'd need proof that he's been working before they can try determine if that actually was the case, otherwise I find it hard to believe that for no reason other than you applying for a work visa, these border services have complete authority to go through absolutely anyone's private phone and laptop with the aim of proving you were working so that they can reject your applicationHe can’t start work without his work permit, other than looking at game tapes etc on his own. If he goes to Carrington you can guarantee that some journalist will snap a photo of him arriving, and good luck convincing some government dogsbody that he wasn’t working. As somebody said earlier that is a sure way to get his application denied.
When you are coming into the country they can and will probe your anus if they suspect there is something hidden there. A laptop is nothing.They're not going to go through his phone and laptop
Realistically the club know not to suggest in any way that Ralf has done any work until the visa or accepted. If Carrick says he did it all then that's all the evidence that exists. Can't stop him going to a game or talking about football.
Now if only we lived in a single union that would have allowed him to just come and work for us without all this nonsense.
This might genuinely be the best footballing decision the Glazers have made since their takeover in 2005. As much of a state that proves they are, this is a really top drawer appointment. In Rangnick, we’ve got a man who influenced the gegenpressing games of Tuchel, Klopp, Flick and Nagelsmann, has a magnificent record in the transfer market in terms of discovering hidden gems and has a knowledge of football probably wider than our entire previous coaching staff’s put together. He’ll undoubtedly be respected by the dressing room as well, considering his status as a pioneering tactician in Germany. An infinitesimal detail considering they should respect the tea lady if she was in charge, but an important one nonetheless.
Seems like he’s already been doing his research on our recent games and training sessions as well, which is lovely to hear. Our pressing is remarkably uncoordinated, to the point where I don’t think accusations aimed at Ole such as him probably only telling them ‘run for each other and show desire’ before games are unfair. We’ll see if that happens under the father of counter-pressing. “Either you press or you don’t, either you’re pregnant or you’re not!”
It’s even more exciting that he’ll be calling the shots in terms of recruitment and hiring his permanent successor next year. This man knows his football, something Woodward, Judge and Arnold cannot claim to do. There are already rumours that he wants best in class, but that man is not Poch. In that case, it can only be Ten Hag off the top of my head, if it’s about continuing his style of play. Not a bad start!
Seems like he’s already been doing his research on our recent games and training sessions as well, which is lovely to hear. Our pressing is remarkably uncoordinated, to the point where I don’t think accusations aimed at Ole such as him probably only telling them ‘run for each other and show desire’ before games are unfair. We’ll see if that happens under the father of counter-pressing. “Either you press or you don’t, either you’re pregnant or you’re not!”
It’s even more exciting that he’ll be calling the shots in terms of recruitment and hiring his permanent successor next year. This man knows his football, something Woodward, Judge and Arnold cannot claim to do. There are already rumours that he wants best in class, but that man is not Poch. In that case, it can only be Ten Hag off the top of my head, if it’s about continuing his style of play. Not a bad start!
They won't suspect there is something hidden there, is the point, and even if they did, are they really going to try find it (I mean in his laptop )? We're talking about one of the most respected men in football and interim manager of Manchester United here, not one of us plebs.
Exactly. They don't and won't have proof of anything and I'd be amazed if he's not already involved. Although come to think of it, maybe Fletch's earpiece is what's causing the delay because that was so ridiculously obvious
He can do as much work for United as he likes from Germany. Nothing against him managing from a computer if he wanted on zoom.
I guess time will tell. To be fair this is his first job at a real top club so it will be interesting to see how he copes with that pressure.
You’re not far off the mark. I mean just look at Bruno. He came in as a world class player, and after less than two years under Ole, he now runs and shoots like a headless chicken.
His task is by no means an easy one, and he won’t be the first coach to arrive with ideas of returning United to the top!
It will take months to change the playing style, and a busy Christmas period is not the best time to implement new ideas…it might not even be possible in his 6 month spell.
So everyone needs to give him time and not start moaning the second a few bad results happen.
It will take months to change the playing style, and a busy Christmas period is not the best time to implement new ideas…it might not even be possible in his 6 month spell.
So everyone needs to give him time and not start moaning the second a few bad results happen.
Good example. It’s impossible to quantify the number of times his one man press has led to us defending in a 4-2-4 shape, making it implausibly easy for teams to bypass our midfield. This should change under Rangnick, I imagine with him acting as the trigger for the midfielders and full backs.
But the point is, they didn't, they waited until after the Watford game. It's fine to comment on the situation as it is but all this whinging and hand-wringing is nonsense.
Where do you live?
Why can't posters understand this
Haha! If only life was so simple. I suspect you will be up for a massive disappointment soon.
But he's been here years, he knows the players, their strengths and weaknesses. Making excuses for him is lame.
The people not being patient with a caretaker manager are quite frankly idiots not worthy of a seconds attention. I'm a moron for giving in to the crying really.
I swear posters are just so happy Ole's gone they will accept any mediocrity.
I can see a difficult initial Christmas period, an FA Cup/European run and a 4th place finish with an improvement in performances by the end of January/mid Feb. Some big wins in the run in and a clamour to get him tied down for the "consultancy" 2 years as head coach.
If he had input to Chelsea, did he also for Villareal, as they played the same in both games?
Sounds like BS to me.
The g-spot? Is that why they call it the geggenpress?
There was nothing like the same structural press in the Villarreal game as there was evident in the Chelsea game. Not even close.
Still wouldn't be allowed.
Lack of patience to get goingWhy can't posters understand this
So he's very high profile, just the sort they would scrutinise extra carefully.They won't suspect there is something hidden there, is the point, and even if they did, are they really going to try find it (I mean in his laptop )? We're talking about one of the most respected men in football and interim manager of Manchester United here, not one of us plebs.
Exactly. They don't and won't have proof of anything and I'd be amazed if he's not already involved. Although come to think of it, maybe Fletch's earpiece is what's causing the delay because that was so ridiculously obvious
No way to police that though.
Why can't posters understand this
I think the point is, they should have, it was obviously untenable after Liverpool, even more so after City, what was the point in keeping it going, giving him a weeks holiday, say we won against Watford.. so what? Posters can't understand the stupid decision of the board that should have recognised it was over prior to the break and Rangnick would have been here in now working
Doesn't matter what they should or shouldn't have done, the fact is they didn't. No amount of whining, hand-wringing or wishing they had will make it true.
He's not really been a coach for a while though, his recent experience has always been filling in midseason when a manager leaves. Last time he was hired as a long term coach at the highest level was probably when we beat his Schalke team around 11/12 so I do think expectations should be tempered somewhat for the remainder of this season. We should 100% be able to make top four but this will be the first time since LVG's first season we are properly going to have the squad learn a whole new style of play.
Both games were completely different.
What about Sheldons virtual presence device from bbt
Canada. We bust people who come here to work but don't have the proper visa all the time. They get sent home on the next available flight.
This person was a rabid pro Ole poster. Probably trying to find some link here to make it out that Ole wasn't a disaster and whatever was going on wasn't his fault.
Probably has a lot to do with him being most recently based out of Russia. Would assume immigration don’t award visas based off whether someone is famous or not…
I used to work for a German company that also had construction projects in Canada. The Canadian visa process was the most feared in our company.
The only country even less favoured by me and my colleagues was Northern Ireland, but due to different reasons...
Wow!
Dont worry, Caftards will have forgotten all that when Rangnick leaves and consider him a failure then. Its written in stone already. Recency effect's strong here.
- Status