Don’t knock that, that’s how Arsenal got their manager
Ralf Rangnick | ex-interim manager | does anyone rate him?
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Carrick is good enough to stay and learn from Rangnick. It will do him good. But why are Phelan, McKenna and Hartis staying? Ole was sacked, but they remain? That's just not fair. I hope Rangnick cuts them loose. They have no business being involved in the management of a top flight club.
Children most definitely. Or childish adults.
That sounds a lot less like a font tbf.
No idea why people are complaining that Carrick, Phelan etc are staying on.
Ralfie will assess them and their futures will depend on him and whoever is brought on as permanent manager. There's no reason to rush anything just for the sake of sacking them.
Ralfie will assess them and their futures will depend on him and whoever is brought on as permanent manager. There's no reason to rush anything just for the sake of sacking them.
Yeah.
In a nutshell, it sounds like we finally hired someone to do what many wanted a Director of Football to do. Call it Consultant, Head honcho, MOTU, whatever, the simple notion that the guys at the top signed off on an actual football man leading football stuff has blown my mind and really opens up a world of possibilities I had long given up on.
Who stays or goes? Don't care, it's pretty clear the guy isn't exactly a sentimental luvvy-duvvy type.
I guess so mate I just despise that kind of attitude on here before a ball has been kicked. It would be nice to have some positivity and togetherness for once. I've seen the morons even have a countdown clock on when he's going to leave in that thread ffs.
Wow, talk about plucking something out of nowhere. What tells you that Carrick, who was part of two failed management teams, has it whereas McKenna doesn't, and more importantly, Phelan doesn't?
For what it's worth I think we should cut them all loose as a collective, but what do you base your differentiation of the four on?
Yeah but you should know better to listen to the guy who made that thread. Total twat.
~15 years ago we used to chat about our common interests. Some held different opinions, yeah, that's what prompts discussion and dialogue.
It doesn't all need to be divisive debate and laughing at <username> dying on <playername>'s hill.
Agreed, they all have to share some of the responsibilty.
There always a divide whoever the manager. Being as though he is just an interim i suspect people won't get to entrenched to Ralfin or Ralfout. Whatever happens he won't be manager come next season.
The fact is we don't know how he's gonna do, hopefully he will do well and results and performances improve but he could be a disaster.
If he does well, people will get behind him, if he struggles people will start complaining.
Fantastic news to start the week!
Seen the clock, it does my head in.
Can someone explain to me how McKenna, who was poached from Spurs after being very highly rated and was then promoted from our under 18s after doing a brilliant job and impressing Mourinho is “jobs for the boys”? We then finished 3rd and 2nd in his first senior coaching gig so he must have been doing something semi-competently right? If Ralf thinks he’s useless he’ll go. Somehow I suspect he isn’t and he’ll learn feck tons.
The Carragnick Way 
Not sure why Mickey shorts is staying? Talk about too many cooks....
Mckenna is only 35 id imagine Ralf has heard enough from the club to keep him on and coach him up or at least see if he is up for taking on his ideas before binning him off.
I could imagine he has seen worse.
Indeed, thanks for pointing that out
Ralf Rang Nick asking him to write Corn in Helvetica
Getting up to speed with the spelling in no time.
We are relegated.
Not sure DDG would appreciate yet another goalkeeping coach, especially as he seems to have got some of his magic back.
When you try that hard, it's just not funny.
Has he said what dramatic changes he wants to make, or is this wishing?
The hype is exciting, but I can't help wonder why he has never been a properly big club if he is as good as advertised.
A “small number” of his own staff. Unless RR wants to keep those 3 (Carrick, McKenna & Phelan) then that’s fine but are the club that skint to bin those 3 off who were part of the problem under Ole?
Oh do behave. Or maybe he was signed for his world class tactics & coaching abilities and the club negotiated him without paying comp? Or better yet, Rangnick managed to get out of the contract himself? Or OR there was a clause in his contract to free himself from it if a club of Man Utd’s stature came calling? Everything so cynical on here.
Yes there is. But you’ll get used to it here. Literally EVERYTHING has a reason to moan or shit on. Even Ten Hag would get a sack watch thread. It’s tiring.
If the coaching staff are adaptable and capable of learning what Rangnick wants to bring in and implementing it, I see no issue with them staying on. Rangnick will be able to assess that himself, and if the club genuinely trust him to implement important changes, then let him do it.
Please tell me you're joking.
We were outplayer in CL and Chelsea gave us an ass-whooping and should have won comfortably. Surely you're not happy with the ultra negative tactics?
Hopefully, 1-2 of them get sidelined and seek opportunities for themselves. Phelan might even be retirement age.
I think he will bring in changes after assessing the current crop for a few weeks. Till then, no point in speculating if the backroom staff stays or not.....shape up or ship out hopefully is the motto
There are no reasons for Phelan to stay. He hasn't been coaching and has had a weird assistant manager role under Ole. He is of no use to Rangnick. As for Carrick and McKenna, if they are obedient movers of cones and capable of learning, they can stay but they should have zero say in tactics or team selection
You spent half the game yesterday shitting on it so was expecting you to pipe up.
CL - 1st clean sheet in god knows how long.
PL- A quality solid performance against top of the league where we could’ve won it if Fred squared it. Yes we may have lost due to the dire start. But they’re both whataboutisms.
Fact of the matter is, we’ve improved. Even if slightly. If Ole was in charge we’d have been spanked both times.
Cheer up a little.
If you’ve ever seen a Rangnick team you’d see we’re about as far away from one as is possible. The graphic Sky used yesterday was a good indicator. We are bad at just about everything he values.
Would you have said the same about MP under SAF?
We were more compact in the 2 games that MC was in charge, + we saw how he managed the squad with his starting lineup and subs, so maybe a lot of it is down to Ole!
DDG has improved this season, maybe RH is doing something right as well!
A bit unfair to point the finger at the other guys without really knowing much.
Some just want to needlessly complain about something, anything, keep the negativity going sadly. Fortunately reading through, seems most have some general common sense.
These coaches are under contract and just throwing them out is costly without even giving Ralf a chance to assess. Not only that but, Ralf is not going to do everything himself and he can't just bring a bunch of other coaches for a short time. Where are these world class assistants just hanging around that will be willing to take a 6 month gig anyway? So he is going to need staff at least in this short term to help.
As to Carrick / McKenna, they are still young from a coaching side. Yes, they've been part of management that has had us playing a lot of dull football with seemingly no plan many times but, if there is trust in Ralf's methods, then you only need to listen to what he said about how a coaches job is to transfer that vision into the hearts, minds, veins etc of the players - that will be true also for the coaches because they will not be sitting there and conveying their own game plan. In those 2 at least he will have 2 that he could quickly and easily absorb his ideas and help then to get across to the team.
Phelan - that's bit of a toss up. But, it's not like his is some dullard who has not had great experience under a great manager during a successful period. Or could just be the money and lack of other available resources at least for now.
There's a thin line between funny and sad and I'm unfortunately still trying to reach upto it.
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