Ralf Rangnick | ex-interim manager | does anyone rate him?

[Adam-Utd]

RR said as much that 10 players should go. I hope that happens. I don’t think it has sunk in that we are as low as we have been since SAF retired. We have seen so bad performances this past year with atrocious score lines that it’s almost we have been desensitised to how dire we really are. I can’t believe the Glazers are getting away with this.

Same here tbh. I think a genuine clear out is needed. Far too many of these players aren't here because they want to play for the club and it shows.

The issue is i'm just not sure we can handle such a big turnover in 1 summer.

Realistically who is leaving; Matic, Pogba, Mata, Bailly, Lingard,Cavani for definite. We then have Jones, Henderson, Pereira, who are all very likely to leave also. Add Greenwood into the mix as he's essentially written off.

That's 10 players in 1 summer. I'm not sure we've ever had such a huge over turn in 1 year before?

It'll obviously depend on the budget too. It doesn't look like CL football will happen so cutbacks will be needed there too.

We probably need at least 2 midfielders + Garner coming back. A striker for definite, and probably 1 more attacking player.

In an ideal world another CB will be nice and 2 new fullbacks, but that's unlikely too essentially we just need a complete overhaul.

Realistically when I look through the squad now i'd only keep Fred,Sancho,DDG. Everybody else is on the chopping block.

I suspect though ETh will be able to rebuild some players and get the confidence back. He might like some and want to keep them.

 

[RiqCantona]

I’m recently retired.
And you make a good point. If it’s truly a cultural problem, that’s the most difficult to fix. Culture is a group think problem from the top down. It’s leadership and discipline and if it goes on long enough it’s a loss of knowledge and then combat readiness suffers. The group forgets how to perform, how to win. It’s a miserable experience and you want to be anywhere else. I think being paid millions softens the blow…

I actually liken this situation to when a Commanding Officer gets relieved for cause such as a collision.
They get him out ASAP and bring in a complete stranger. Usually a senior and experienced guy who has two jobs when he reports aboard.
Get the ship safely home and gather evidence.

You want a guy like Ralf seems to be. Cut to the chase. Get straight to the heart of the problem. Those guys almost never stick around long after. They get the ship home and report back as to what happened and recommendations on how to fix it.
Then the admirals have their say.

Inevitably several people receive various levels of discipline. Many are replaced and end up at a desk for the rest of their short careers.

Edit: I almost forgot, there is almost always a courts martial, usually for the Commanding Officer. Everything is made public. It’s ugly.

That is exactly how big companies work. This is management 101.

 

[Bestietom]

I really like Ralf, his analysis of our issues is absolutely spot-on and I firmly believe had we made him DoF in 2014/15 we would be a major force in European and domestic football again now.

That being said, I don't think he is managing the team particularly well. I understand his options are limited but keeps making the same mistakes i.e. Rashford at CF, Pogba in CM. We know from experience that this just doesn't work.

Also, his insistence on being 'progressive' and his style have probably been negative 'expected value' so far i.e. we would have picked up far more points by just playing the cowardly 4-2-3-1 counter until the end of the season. He's right that his is the style we should aspire to, but what's the point in forcing players to do it who can't do (and won't be here soon)?

I don't believe that ANY manager without adding to his squad could do any better. Yes, they could make some changes to the team but they would need a whip to get the best out of them.
Rangnick may not be a manager but he does know about football, and we need a few more like him behind the scenes rather than people who know nothing about football.

 

[RiqCantona]

I don't think many think that the whole team is going to be replaced, what people are saying is the whole team should be replaced.

We have Matic, Lingard, Mata, Martial, Pogba, Bailly, Jones, Cavani leaving this summer. Most of these players don't even play, so we need to replace a few of them.

Then we have the likes of Rashford, Maguire, Shaw, AWB, Dalot who should leave but hard due to their contracts. If we can sell 2 of those, it would be a good summer.

We then have to go buy a new spine, CB,CM,ST at the least. We also need a RW, RB, CM.

In reality, I only see us signing 5 players so ETH has to find youth players to promote.

These lot will stay for one season in my view. They had a few good moments in the past, and would be interesting to see what ETH can find a use for them.

 

[Moston Red]

I love his honesty

 

[Esquire]

Same here tbh. I think a genuine clear out is needed. Far too many of these players aren't here because they want to play for the club and it shows.

The issue is i'm just not sure we can handle such a big turnover in 1 summer.

Realistically who is leaving; Matic, Pogba, Mata, Bailly, Lingard,Cavani for definite. We then have Jones, Henderson, Pereira, who are all very likely to leave also. Add Greenwood into the mix as he's essentially written off.

That's 10 players in 1 summer. I'm not sure we've ever had such a huge over turn in 1 year before?

It'll obviously depend on the budget too. It doesn't look like CL football will happen so cutbacks will be needed there too.

We probably need at least 2 midfielders + Garner coming back. A striker for definite, and probably 1 more attacking player.

In an ideal world another CB will be nice and 2 new fullbacks, but that's unlikely too essentially we just need a complete overhaul.

Realistically when I look through the squad now i'd only keep Fred,Sancho,DDG. Everybody else is on the chopping block.

I suspect though ETh will be able to rebuild some players and get the confidence back. He might like some and want to keep them.

I think the question we need to all ask ourselves is what level of expectation we all have and can tolerate. Personally I am fine with missing top 4 next year as long as we have a team who fight and scrap for every inch. Youngsters following vets who clearly want to be here. ETH needs time and I hope Glazers get bled so much that they leave. The last part may not be realistic but we need to start from scratch. I agree we only keep the ones you mentioned. Everyone else can go.

 

[UnitedSofa]

You all love Ralf's honesty.....but guess what Ole was saying all those months ago.....

Ole may not have ultimately been the one to take us back to the top, as much as I'd have wanted after defending him religiously for months on end, sometimes to my own downfall. But maybe this mess is/wasn't all his fault. Just a thought.

 

[romufc]

These lot will stay for one season in my view. They had a few good moments in the past, and would be interesting to see what ETH can find a use for them.

I think so too, which is why I know its unrealistic to sell them all, 2 would be ideal IMO. The 2 I would sell are Maguire and Rashford. It will send a big message to the rest of the players to step the feck up.

Also, on a side note. If United are a serious club, Maguire should have been stripped of captaincy after yesterday. We don't need a captain until the end of the season, no one deserves it.

We need to start sending clear and ruthless messages to players that this is not a joke anymore.

 

[hobbers]

You all love Ralf's honesty.....but guess what Ole was saying all those months ago.....

Ole may not have ultimately been the one to take us back to the top, as much as I'd have wanted after defending him religiously for months on end, sometimes to my own downfall. But maybe this mess is/wasn't all his fault. Just a thought.

Saying that while building a squad that exhibited none of those qualities.

Ole is a managerial fraud who has set us back even longer than the 3 years he was actually here.

 

[Adam-Utd]

You all love Ralf's honesty.....but guess what Ole was saying all those months ago.....

Ole may not have ultimately been the one to take us back to the top, as much as I'd have wanted after defending him religiously for months on end, sometimes to my own downfall. But maybe this mess is/wasn't all his fault. Just a thought.

Look at how he ended that statement though "im getting there with my team" so actually he doesn't think they lack it at all

Ole obviously wasn't completely at fault alone, but he's let these frauds get away with it just to keep them happy, and to keep his dream job.

I don't think he could have turned it around or taken us forward, so he was rightly sacked. All managers are the first to go when it goes sour.

 

[Morpheus 7]

He talks a good talk but as usual he never walks the walk as one of the posters said on here. This is not happening next window, maybe in three windows we lose ten players, but not in one. The man is a fraud.

It's funny that people are still buying what he's saying, he's proven his management skills aren't up to it, the board won't listen to him regardless of his previous. The board never trusted him in the January window, even to let players like Jesse leave. Hardly going to trust him for a big rebuild. I'm finding it sad that fans are listening to Ralf still, as if he's going to have any sway. Not sure we should either, be interesting to see what new manager demands.

 

[RiqCantona]

I think so too, which is why I know its unrealistic to sell them all, 2 would be ideal IMO. The 2 I would sell are Maguire and Rashford. It will send a big message to the rest of the players to step the feck up.

Also, on a side note. If United are a serious club, Maguire should have been stripped of captaincy after yesterday. We don't need a captain until the end of the season, no one deserves it.

We need to start sending clear and ruthless messages to players that this is not a joke anymore.

I'd keep them in the squad but not in the XI next season. Let them earn their place.

 

[UnitedSofa]

Look at how he ended that statement though "im getting there with my team" so actually he doesn't think they lack it at all

Ole obviously wasn't completely at fault alone, but he's let these frauds get away with it just to keep them happy, and to keep his dream job.

I don't think he could have turned it around or taken us forward, so he was rightly sacked. All managers are the first to go when it goes sour.

"I'm getting there" would imply that they don't have it and are on the road to getting it. He wouldn't be saying it if they had it would he?

Ole said the passion/desire thing more than once during his time here.

 

[RiqCantona]

It's funny that people are still buying what he's saying, he's proven his management skills aren't up to it, the board won't listen to him regardless of his previous. The board never trusted him in the January window, even to let players like Jesse leave. Hardly going to trust him for a big rebuild. I'm finding it sad that fans are listening to Ralf still, as if he's going to have any sway. Not sure we should either, be interesting to see what new manager demands.

Jesse would've gone had it not been for Greenwood's c*ck up. Deal was agreed with Newcastle.

 

[Adam-Utd]

Jesse would've gone had it not been for Greenwood's c*ck up. Deal was agreed with Newcastle.

Should have been sold in the summer before to West Ham but told Jesse he's a man united player and deserved another chance. Proceeded to sit on the bench all year long. now he walks for free.

 

[Crashoutcassius]

If he was permanent would he get sacked at end of season ?

 

[romufc]

I'd keep them in the squad but not in the XI next season. Let them earn their place.

We tried that with Rashford, all he does is moan. "Rashford considering future" bla bla. he is the worst of them, thinking he deserves to be first choice.

A player that cannot even control a football.

 

[sullydnl]

You all love Ralf's honesty.....but guess what Ole was saying all those months ago.....

Ole may not have ultimately been the one to take us back to the top, as much as I'd have wanted after defending him religiously for months on end, sometimes to my own downfall. But maybe this mess is/wasn't all his fault. Just a thought.

Obviously it wasn't Ole's fault. It was the fault of the people above him who thought appointing someone like Ole as United manager was a good idea, among a slew of obviously bad decisions. He didn't hire himself as United manager, just as all the players who aren't good enough didn't sign themselves.

If one person is bad at their job, you blame them. If nearly everyone is bad at their job, you blame whoever is managing the company.

 

[horsechoker]

If he was permanent would he get sacked at end of season ?

Yeah

 

[Elcabron]

Same here tbh. I think a genuine clear out is needed. Far too many of these players aren't here because they want to play for the club and it shows.

The issue is i'm just not sure we can handle such a big turnover in 1 summer.

Realistically who is leaving; Matic, Pogba, Mata, Bailly, Lingard,Cavani for definite. We then have Jones, Henderson, Pereira, who are all very likely to leave also. Add Greenwood into the mix as he's essentially written off.

That's 10 players in 1 summer. I'm not sure we've ever had such a huge over turn in 1 year before?

It'll obviously depend on the budget too. It doesn't look like CL football will happen so cutbacks will be needed there too.

We probably need at least 2 midfielders + Garner coming back. A striker for definite, and probably 1 more attacking player.

In an ideal world another CB will be nice and 2 new fullbacks, but that's unlikely too essentially we just need a complete overhaul.

Realistically when I look through the squad now i'd only keep Fred,Sancho,DDG. Everybody else is on the chopping block.

I suspect though ETh will be able to rebuild some players and get the confidence back. He might like some and want to keep them.

The 10 you listed are a good start but Maguire, AVB, Martial and Rashford should also be included. No ifs buts or maybes about it. Maguire could go to Newcastle for approx 40m. Similar for Henderson and similar for Rashford with Bailey, AVB and Dalot another 50m. That's 170m raised from sales, plus another 100m from annual budget and we have 270m to buy the following:

Pau Torres -60m
Nunez- 70m
Right back - 40m
Karma - Free
Touchameni -50m
Raphina -50m

Promote Laird, Hannibal and Garner and we are on the right track. It needs to be done.

 

[RiqCantona]

We tried that with Rashford, all he does is moan. "Rashford considering future" bla bla. he is the worst of them, thinking he deserves to be first choice.

A player that cannot even control a football.

Let him rot on the bench. He has the get his act together and deserve a place in the team next season. Point is, he is talented and still has the potential.

 

[KeanoMagicHat]

Ralf‘s remit and Jose’s remit are completely different.

Jose was hired as a permanent manager to win stuff and build a squad. He criticised the squad he built after getting what he wanted from the board.

Ralf was hired as an interim to (in my opinion) primarily evaluate the squad and shape a new football infrastructure. He hasn’t bought any players and he’s working with someone else’s squad, plus he’ll be upstairs next year hopefully working close with the people who’ll run the football side of things, so him giving both barrels to a bunch of players six months ago he had zero connection with, is more justifiable than what Jose did.

One was meant to bring glory and the other is a troubleshooter.

Mourinho also wanted Mkhitaryan and then immediately dropped him for the team for months, criticising his attitude.

The 10 you listed are a good start but Maguire, AVB, Martial and Rashford should also be included. No ifs buts or maybes about it. Maguire could go to Newcastle for approx 40m. Similar for Henderson and similar for Rashford with Bailey, AVB and Dalot another 50m. That's 170m raised from sales, plus another 100m from annual budget and we have 270m to buy the following:

Pau Torres -60m
Nunez- 70m
Right back - 40m
Karma - Free
Touchameni -50m
Raphina -50m

Promote Laird, Hannibal and Garner and we are on the right track. It needs to be done.

There’s no chance of getting 170m for those players when their stock is so low.

 

[Lentwood]

I don't believe that ANY manager without adding to his squad could do any better. Yes, they could make some changes to the team but they would need a whip to get the best out of them.
Rangnick may not be a manager but he does know about football, and we need a few more like him behind the scenes rather than people who know nothing about football.

Well, it depends what you mean by 'better'.

Michael Carrick has never managed a team professionally before, yet we beat Arsenal and Villarreal and drew with Chelsea under his tenure - largely because we reverted to the style of football we had played the previous season under Solskjaer. The players are suited to this system and are comfortable with it.

Like you, I'm delighted we have Rangnick at the club, but I actually feel Carrick might have achieved more points as the 'head coach' than Rangnick has achieved.

 

[pcaming]

Anyone who still can't see that the players are entirely at fault for this season, then I don't know what to tell you. They are all pretty trash, and I doubt even Pep and Klopp could get the to function.

 

[Elcabron]

Mourinho also wanted Mkhitaryan and then immediately dropped him for the team for months, criticising his attitude.


There’s no chance of getting 170m for those players when their stock is so low.

I think we could genuinely, Newcastle would easily pay is 80m for Maguire and Rashford and they are rumoured to be in for Henderson also. Admittedly the market would be small for Maguire but Rashford and Henderson would have plenty of suitors and Rashford would probably go for more than 40m. Also Tzunzabe and Pierera will sell for maybe 15m total...there is definitely approx 170m in there.

Agree their stock is low but it has just been the one season and not like they have been shit for years and all are still right side of 30.

 

[Submarine Chief]

Obviously it wasn't Ole's fault. It was the fault of the people above him who thought appointing someone like Ole as United manager was a good idea, among a slew of obviously bad decisions. He didn't hire himself as United manager, just as all the players who aren't good enough didn't sign themselves.

If one person is bad at their job, you blame them. If nearly everyone is bad at their job, you blame whoever is managing the company.

I don’t blame you for thinking that. And it’s probably, usually true. But culture is a funny thing.

Sometimes all it takes to make a bad situation intolerable is a few disgruntled guys working behind the scenes with negative intentions. Guys spreading rumors, guys sowing discord and mistrust.

Then turn around and give them a fat new contract to appease them. Complainers and shirkers being rewarded can be devastating to a groups culture. There many ways to make a situation worse.

It’s usually tough to diagnose exactly where those problems lie and only the guys inside know the answer. I expect this is why they say that it can take at least 4 years to change.

 

[buchansleftleg]

I think Ralf is doing an amazing job at finding out who has the heart and stomach to play for this club, and who is not upto the task. the fact he is so publicly stating that a lot of players are not good enough for the club is telling.

I'll bet that his analysis isn't based on a look or vibes, like how the "translator" would have done it. Ralf will have the physical stats from training sessions and games to prove those giving only a marginal effort, and those who are trying their best. I'm not saying we just become a team of fit runners, of course their can be room for 1 or 2 players to be more languid and be about art and craft, but they can be judged on accuracy and creativity once others are putting in a shift. Sancho has looked great at times and then awful at others because he can't know wether his team mates are going to show or run for him / into space etc.

I can accept players being not good enough, if they try their best. very few of this squad have been at above anything other than coasting level for a long time.

Once the clearout has happened it would just be great to hear Ralf's player by player analysis. I think it would be devastating!

 

[Pughnichi]

Clear outs don’t happen…apart from playing Football Manager!

this summer it could however actually be forced upon us…and that really excites me.

 

[romufc]

I am glad Ralf is throwing these players under the bus. They deserve 0 protection from the manager.

The way the players have treated the fans and manager is embarassing.

I saw a quote from Bruno yesterday saying Liverpool fighting for the title and we nothing. I mean we are fighting top 4, so what nonsense is that.

When there was something to play for, they played the same way against Ateletico. Its just excuse after excuse from the players, fans who pay good money to go watch the games home and away.

The manager needs to say it how it is in his press conference, he knows he wont be manager so, he can do what he wants.

 

[IrishRedDevil]

Saying we need 10 new players is glorious.

These cowardly maggots can't hide anymore.

Yet, we have captain slab head saying he must be good because two managers have started him? Please swend him back to Greece.

 

[Dante]

The current team is suffering from a serious case of 'bad vibes'. You can physically see them pulling out of tackles, letting their heads drop, failing to run, refusing to work hard, even feigning injuries.

I don't think anyone can deny the poor mentality of the players compared to even last season. If they were playing with 'good vibes', they definitely wouldn't have been as poor as they've looked for most of this season.

The sad thing is that when this dressing room wants to sack a manager, they know how to do it. The same thing that happened to Mourinho also happened to Ole. And now, because they know Rangnick isn't going to be managing them long term, they're doing it to him as well.

I've said this all along: it's a player culture that's borne out of entitlement. All the way through the superstar signings of Di Maria, to Schweinsteiger, to Falcao, to Pogba, to Lukaku, to Sanchez, to Cavani, to Ronaldo. Even Mata, Jones, Bailly, Rojo, Romero, Henderson and Lingard have been getting in on the act as squad players.

The players have been checked out and happy with simply getting their payslips for a long time now. When that attitude crosses generations and infects everybody in the room, that's when you can use big words like 'culture' to describe it.

But, make no mistake, it's a culture that was created by Woodward. Every one of our managers since LvG has had to fight against to get any kind of performance out of them.

 

[Doracle]

I think it's actually hilarious we have all these threads being updated by posters to try and justify how blameless the squad is and meanwhile we have another thread that's essentially a direct quote from our club captain which says "all the managers keep picking me, so I must be awesome"

No one is saying that though. Pretty much everyone accepts that the squad takes a lot of responsibility. There just seems to be a large group who have moved from “Ole is clueless and losing to Villarreal is utterly unacceptable with this squad” to “No manager could get this bunch to be top 4”.

I personally think a lot of managers would have got this group to perform much better than RR has managed. 2nd was an overachievement last year but we easily have the 4th best squad in the league. The manager has to take a fair share of responsibility for the disjointed mess we are regularly seeing.

 

[IrishRedDevil]

The sad thing is that when this dressing room wants to sack a manager, they know how to do it. The same thing that happened to Mourinho also happened to Ole. And now, because they know Rangnick isn't going to be managing them long term, they're doing it to him as well.

The only small glimmer of hope is that Ralf will be a consultant. He can inform the new manager about the biggest frauds.

 

[OleksUsykUD]

Just laughing out loudly at some people trying to defend this guy, who 100% proved that he is a fraud. I don't care what he speaks on the press and in the media, what he is judged on is on the pitch, and his results are worsts than anyone since SAF, and pretty much every manager since SAF has been way below average or long time past his best years, and still being below average. I don't care how you try to spin it, this speaks for itself. And he is not the worst one, he is
the worst by quite a far.


In any job, if you can't make your team do the things you want them to do, then the problem is in you. He is saying that players don't follow his instructions, yet he still persist to play with Maguire, no matter what, how smart is that?


His sole job was to get us into the top 4. Simple as that. People are talking nonsenses about rebuild here, but doesn't use a basic thinking, that not getting a top 4 spot, will mean we lose sponsorship money(quite a lot, not being in CL), we lose probably more than 100million not being in the CL, and we also lose an opportunity to sign a lot of players, that won't come here, knowing we won't be in the CL. On top of that our budget will be a lot smaller for the new manager.


So the "experts" that defend this fraud, explain to me, how exactly he is doing the "rebuild" job? He is actually putting the club and the next manager in a lot, worst, worst place.


And who is that self-respecting manager that will need someone else, an absolutely fraud like Rangnick to tell him if X or Y guy is or isn't good enough to stay ???


Let me tell you exactly what it's mean to build a foundation for the new manager is. What City did with Pellegrini. They did have Pep in mind, and appoint a manager that will play a similar type of football and will also want/buy a similar type of players.


What we are doing is an absolutely disaster and will lead to even further disaster.


It's also fun that people talking about we shouldn't have get this or this guy, cause he would have want this or that guy in the winter. And what is wrong with that exactly ? You can give 50m or 60m. for 2 players exactly, but if that helps you get into the CL, this mean you will win a lot more, than not getting in the CL, this is a basic thinking, that obviously some people on here lack.


Also some people are so naive with their Erik Ten Hag fanaticism. No one can say if this guy is going to be successful or not. His winning in the Duch league means nothing. He is still a very naive manager, and his loses in the CL prove this 100%.


De Boer was the same idealist that was talking a lot, playing attacking football, won 4 title with Ajax, and come in PL and the guy was sacked in a record time with 4 loses out of 5 matches, scored just 2 goals, and conceded 8. This speaks for itself.


Same story for Andre Villas Boas. The guy actually won a quadruple with Porto, and failed miserably at Chelsea, and then Tottenham.


ETH is big risk, and a big question mark. But i will judge him, after 1 full season with us, not prematurely, as everyone should. But looking at most of ours fans on here, they are living in some dream world, which is far, far from the reality. But very soon there will be a reality check, so let's see how they will accept the reality.

 

[romufc]

The only small glimmer of hope is that Ralf will be a consultant. He can inform the new manager about the biggest frauds.

Its not just Ralf though, our technical director is seing all of this first hand too. He will be the one with Ralf telling ETH that 90% of these players are not good enough.

At this moment, no player should be engaging in contract negotiations, no player gets a pay rise.

Every player in the squad should take a pay cut until they show they deserve the wage. In every employment contract there has to be something about quality of work etc...

 

[Submarine Chief]

No one is saying that though. Pretty much everyone accepts that the squad takes a lot of responsibility. There just seems to be a large group who have moved from “Ole is clueless and losing to Villarreal is utterly unacceptable with this squad” to “No manager could get this bunch to be top 4”.

I personally think a lot of managers would have got this group to perform much better than RR has managed. 2nd was an overachievement last year but we easily have the 4th best squad in the league. The manager has to take a fair share of responsibility for the disjointed mess we are regularly seeing.

I like what you are saying but aren’t we only 3 points out of fourth?

Perspective is a funny thing. As bad as things seem you might think we were fighting relegation.

 

[Submarine Chief]

Being a newbie, I am allowed one more post for the day.

I might suggest it would be interesting to have each of us lay it on the line a bit. We could save a thread with our prediction of ten players we think should be gone.

Or perhaps in a more positive light, each picks 5 or 10 who you think should stay. Fan Favorites. It would be very interesting to see which players get the most votes. I don’t think y’all agree at all.

At the start of next season we can see who nailed it.

 

[Adam-Utd]

The 10 you listed are a good start but Maguire, AVB, Martial and Rashford should also be included. No ifs buts or maybes about it. Maguire could go to Newcastle for approx 40m. Similar for Henderson and similar for Rashford with Bailey, AVB and Dalot another 50m. That's 170m raised from sales, plus another 100m from annual budget and we have 270m to buy the following:

Pau Torres -60m
Nunez- 70m
Right back - 40m
Karma - Free
Touchameni -50m
Raphina -50m

Promote Laird, Hannibal and Garner and we are on the right track. It needs to be done.

You're not wrong, but it's just not realistic to see them leaving this summer on top of the ones already going. We barely manage to sign 3/4 players in a summer usually let alone 7/8.

I think ETH will want to assess the remaining players in the summer, I wouldn't be surprised to see him bench Maguire though.

 

[Pexbo]

Misunderstood gegenpress genius that doesn't gegenpress

Spoiler: Rangnick teaching the United squad to gengenpress

 

[acnumber9]

No they weren't. He was heavily backed in a. Jan window and made wholesale transfers which made them worse.

Also, clubs dont sack managers midway through seasons when fighting relegation because "theyre going down anyway". Its quite the opposite.

Dont rewrite history

They sack them hoping a new manager will keep them up. Doesn’t mean they’re likely to anyway.