It’s pretty much the exact same squad as last season.
Why do people find it so difficult to believe that Ralf might not be such a good manager, and that perhaps he is the cause of the problems instead of the solution?
Ralf Rangnick | ex-interim manager | does anyone rate him?
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It’s pretty much the exact same squad as last season.
Why do people find it so difficult to believe that Ralf might not be such a good manager, and that perhaps he is the cause of the problems instead of the solution?
This is exactly what we’re trying to move away from, isn’t it. The manager will obviously has his say, but the entire point is building a structure at the club so that the right choices, for the club, is made either way. Klopp didn’t believe Salah was the right signing for Liverpool, his preference was Brandt but he was convinced by Edwards..
You don’t want the manager to have 100% authority on who stays and who goes.
Mourinho was completely backed by the club until the point where it became clear that he was losing the plot. He wanted to replace players he had just signed, suddenly they weren’t good enough, he insisted on us signing Sanchez and it derailed the remainder of the season for Rashford and Martial, both were performing very well at the time, whereas Sanchez ended up being an insanely expensive flop that even cost a small fortune to get rid off. It was Mourinho’s lack of results that caused the board to stop sanctioning his every wish.
100% authority was probably the wrong terminology to be fair. What I meant was appointing a manager that has the same vision for the team as the DOF etc. If the manager then wants to sell a player it’s in line with the clubs vision for the team and isn’t vetoed.
I love how posters are annoyed at Ralf Rangnick for not whipping these players into getting results with attractive football during an interim stint.
This, a dressing room full of toxic players who literally dont bother listening to the manager. The problem isn't him or near to him. It's the squad and only a permanent manager will have the remit to cut through the dressing room. No caretaker would have fixed the situation we were in. Ole fecked the squad right up with contracts for players wanting to leave, feeding big egos and refusing to even coach the players.
They've had a holiday for 3 years, you think they'll pick up great habits for 5 months? Good luck, no ones instilling that on a caretaker role. And that has feck all to do with Ralf.
This, a dressing room full of toxic players who literally dont bother listening to the manager. The problem isn't him or near to him. It's the squad and only a permanent manager will have the remit to cut through the dressing room. No caretaker would have fixed the situation we were in. Ole fecked the squad right up with contracts for players wanting to leave, feeding big egos and refusing to even coach the players.
They've had a holiday for 3 years, you think they'll pick up great habits for 5 months? Good luck, no ones instilling that on a caretaker role. And that has feck all to do with Ralf.
I've not been at all impressed with Ragnick but last season was last season.
These players had already given up under Ole.
Lets not act like things were going great before Ragnick came in.
Nobody is denying that the squad it toxic/shit/full of wankers.
I’ve supported this club for over 35 years and I don’t think I’ve ever felt such disdain towards a squad of players as I do with this lot.
But this doesn’t change the fact that Rangnick has completely failed during this interim period. He’s improved absolutely nothing.
Took me until the 'give him a statue' bit to realise you're a WUM. Had me for a second there. Well done.
It's more down to whether thats down to his failings or the fact that this is an impossible squad to deal with. In my opinion it's the latter.
Also regarding what he has and hasn't improved, what we do know is Murtough values his assessments highly and he's taken these assessments likely to discuss with the next manager. I think he will help accelerate a rebuild, and thats where his value is really strong.
Play the kids!
No I really mean it. I want modern football not this sh#t. He is the start of the process and I'm grateful for his work. If it means missing out on UCL for a couple of years it's a price worth paying.
It goes both ways, if results aren’t going your way and performances are shit then you won’t have much hopes of the club sanctioning your wishes to get rid of major investments, no matter how the structure is.
We’ll certainly try to implement a structure that secures the right manager appointments and player signings, but it’s hardly simple. Liverpools structure was mocked by world football during Rodgers stint as a manager there, combined with Klopp and Edwards in a bigger role it’s suddenly the golden path of how a club should be run.
Never got him except him literally talking through experience.
Wish we had kept Carrick.
Wish we had kept Carrick.
Incredibly disappointing comments. The so called "strongest players" have delivered absolutely nothing. Let's see what he does when it becomes mathematically impossible.
He doesn't help himself picking the likes of Lingard and Pogba does he 2 players who are off in a matter of weeks
Leave them not only out of the starting 11 but the entire squad its completely pointless, play the kids ffs.
Leave them not only out of the starting 11 but the entire squad its completely pointless, play the kids ffs.
Disappointed he picked Lingard
Seems like the majority would prefer to apportion blame on Rangnick, having failed to motivate our squad of world class players for the past 6 months, captain Marvel Maguire is just misunderstood?
If you follow the logic of this then the conclusion would be to re-appoint Ole. It’s Bonkers.
If you follow the logic of this then the conclusion would be to re-appoint Ole. It’s Bonkers.
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Seems like the majority would prefer to apportion blame on Rangnick, having failed to motivate our squad of world class players for the past 6 months, captain Marvel Maguire is just misunderstood?
If you follow logic of this then the conclusion would be to re-appoint Ole. It’s Bonkers.
What on earth are you talking about? That post makes no sense.
Like the guy, but this lineup today is unforgivable. Lingard should be nowhere near the First Team considering his influence, nevermind the XI.
Cannot wait until this nightmare of a season is over.
Cannot wait until this nightmare of a season is over.
I think he's on auto pilot along with the players
Not strong enough to drop the likes of Maguire when it needed to happen and constantly picking players who are leaving in a matter of weeks.
Lets be honest he's been fecking shite.
Not strong enough to drop the likes of Maguire when it needed to happen and constantly picking players who are leaving in a matter of weeks.
Lets be honest he's been fecking shite.
Seems like the majority would prefer to apportion blame on Rangnick, having failed to motivate our squad of world class players for the past 6 months, captain Marvel Maguire is just misunderstood?
If you follow logic of this then the conclusion would be to re-appoint Ole. It’s Bonkers.
It is possible that Rangnick has been shit, yet also the players have been equally shit.
The only thing I can think is that he’s under extreme pressure to get in to Europe no matter what which we heard murmurs about in the last couple weeks. But yeah, persisting with players that will be gone in a few weeks in a season that’s clearly over is pretty annoying.
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Okay I’ll try and simplify it for you.
It’s possible that the side isn’t very good. Rangnick in my belief has tried to do his best despite a growing resentment and hostility aimed towards him from people on this thread.
What I was merely stating was that if so many fans think that it’s just down to coaching, then we may have well have stuck with Ole, seeing as most of the players currently underachieving were either purchased by him, or preferred the way things were during his tenure.
yeah he has to at least look like he is remaining professional to the board for the sake of Euro football next season.
i don’t think anyone is saying Ralf hasn’t tried his best…
ole got sacked because his coaching wasn’t up to standard, so no we shouldn’t have stuck with Ole.
your post(s) still make no sense at all!
Playing without a fecking midfield in the Premier League. Get this clueless hipster out of the club.
Joker.
Bring back Carrick
Bring back Carrick
Yeah he has been a total flop, wonder what happens when Ten Haag comes in.
Weird position as he is supposed to be far better as a football executive than coach but it's getting pretty bad reputationally no matter how crap our players are.
Weird position as he is supposed to be far better as a football executive than coach but it's getting pretty bad reputationally no matter how crap our players are.
I'm not even surprised, if he can't beat Championship Middlesborough at home with a full strength XI then no PL side should be taken as granted
He's unserious. Putting a midfield like this out on the Premier League level is shocking. Taking the piss out of this club, absolutely piss poor.
He puts matic on when we need a goal
He should be sacked for starting with Ligard FFS.
I blame the players but these awful selections are on him
He keeps playing the same old players who are underperforming or leaving in the summer.
He keeps playing the same old players who are underperforming or leaving in the summer.
Ole was prime Fergie compared to this incompetent chap.
He puts matic on when we need a goal
Matic is underrated offensively.
Has great threaded passes to set up plays.
And brings some more calm to our midfield, allowing Pogba and Fernandes to go forward more.
He's probably given up. He knows he is not going to be manager and the players are not putting in the effort.
What is the point of him trying all that hard at this point? It is not going to be his problem in 6 games, so there is no point stressing about it. Very tough job to take midseason with the mess we are in.
I don't blame him for the situation we are in. This season has been written off since we failed to sack Solskjaer after the Liverpool thrashing.
What is the point of him trying all that hard at this point? It is not going to be his problem in 6 games, so there is no point stressing about it. Very tough job to take midseason with the mess we are in.
I don't blame him for the situation we are in. This season has been written off since we failed to sack Solskjaer after the Liverpool thrashing.
Blame him all you want but just look at the teams reaction to the turnover. No pressure on the ball from fromt to back. The forwards just allow a fee run at the midfield and the midfield does the same to the defense.
This is not a coaching issue. This is a motivation issue.
No DM, formation personnel change is solving that.
This is not a coaching issue. This is a motivation issue.
No DM, formation personnel change is solving that.
it's both and both is on the manager
It's not really about Matic.
It's about starting the game with an all out attack and then bringing a CDM on when we have lost our lead.
Ultimately yes but how many managers will we run through? These players are bastards.
To be fair you cannot play a premier league match with Bruno and Pogba in a midfield 2, he should have realised that before the game though.
Well, yeah. I had Matic starting in my lineup. Been asking for that exact change since half-time.
(And in my predictions I thought Lingard would come on at 60-70min.)
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