Yeah these players are a joke with no desire and literally steeling our money for fun. I now refuse to buy any united merch until i see changes, which could be 20 years, who knows anymore.
Ralf Rangnick | ex-interim manager | does anyone rate him?
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But we did, with Ole, multiple times?
It's weird to give Ralph a pass "because we only have McT and average midfielder" but slate Ole for not winning the league, with the same players, no?
And Jose too. LVG too. The point is, they weren't good enough and Ole was the worst.
Stop bringing up Ole for every Ralph discussions. Ole wasn't sacked for not winning the league. Jeez - the level to which Ole fans go is deplorable.
I didn't say Ole was sacked for not winning the league. Jeez - the level to with Ralph fans go is deplorable.
It wasn't Ole's fault, just like it wasnt Moyes, LVG or Mourinho's fault either. Just like it's not Ralph's fault now. To think all of this is solved by replacing one man is delusional, and to think our problems are down to the manager (whoever it is) is stupid.
Is slate the same as sack now? Are you illiterate?
be slated
informal To be sharply criticized by someone
Wow , nice attempt of going personal there. Keep it up.
For the record, Ole was sacked for his fecking incompetence. Take whatever you want from it. No one actually gave a damn about winning the league. Pretty laughable when you have to bring dictionary to fecking prove a point.
Thanks, I was genuinely interested to know.
Not my fault the dictionary had to come out, when you try and pull bullshit punches without knowing what you're talking about. I don't disagree with you on Ole btw, I just find it incredibly funny how you use the same argument to praise Ralph and slate Ole.
What's Ole doing in a Ralph discussion? Ole is done. Get over it. He was a clueless incompetent manager. Get used to it.
Mate, do me a favor and go through the posts again. You are just wasting time by posting without knowing the context.
Sounds like you're the one that needs to get over it, seeing as half your posts in this thread is about Ole
At least he didn't relegate a football club, unlike Ole.
He couldn't coach for 3 years to save his life and everything we witness on the pich is his (lack of) work.
Club legend and a humble guy, but he is easily the most inept manager in history of Manchester United.
Sounds like you're the one that needs to get over it, seeing as half your posts in this thread is about Ole
Ofcourse , it irks when Ole fans just come as a group , sympathize him and brings Ole in every single post.
You can criticisize Ralph for his team selection, approach or tactics. Just stop bringing up a failed manager every time the new manager has an issue.
Ole is gone, you are right, but that doesn't mean we can't discuss his tenure until our faces are blue? I don't understand why you're the thread police, championing what people can and can't discuss or compare. How is a comparison between Ralph and Ole not relevant to Ralph in your eyes?
What part would you like me to re-read?
I thought he (or others) had a point when pointing out double standards, but you're right, it's a waste of time trying to vindicate Ole or whatever. His sacking was justified because it was based on results and performances, but at the same time, maybe these players aren't as easy to work with as we first thought.
But this is literally what everyone does, at every club, at every level no? Compare what you have currently to what you had before, and what you potentially could have down the line? A failed manager, actually. Is Mourinho a failed manager? Or (a couple months back) FOTM manager Moyes, a failed manager? LVG, failed manager?
I don't think failing at managing United in post-SAF phase is an ironclad indictment of someones managerial abilities.
That was pretty clear when we refused to bolster the squad in last winter transfer window when he had a top 4 battle ongoing.
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- mate this is what I told you have no idea about the context. @DSG has been calling out me and @VP89 everytime we have a bad result. Reason ? We have been supporting Ralph in the initial phases of his tenure. This is the guy who started criticizing Ralph on Jan 13 (exactly after some limited training sessions and a covid outbreak). This is the guy who compared Ole's 3 year tenure and RR's 3 month tenure and argued he has a better win %.Now, I dont need to be an expert to understand someone's intentions when someone is trying to criticize for the sake of it. You don't compare an interim manager who just had 3 months (including a covid outbreak, no Jan signings and a rape case due to which he lost an important player) with someone who spent 500m and 3 years. That's not how it works mate !
That’s the great thing here buddy. We can talk about anything we want. We are criticizing Ralf because he’s been crap so far.Thread policing
Now, I dont need to be an expert to understand someone's intentions when someone is trying to criticize for the sake of it. You don't compare an interim manager who just had 3 months (including a covid outbreak, no Jan signings and a rape case due to which he lost an important player) with someone who spent 500m and 3 years. That's not how it works mate !
You keep saying I’m supporting Ole by criticizing Ralf. Nope, Ole needed to go. I’ve said this many times over many posts. Ralf has been bad, and yes, I’m going to keep bringing it up. Sorry you feel aggrieved. It’s okay, mate, sit back and have a pint. The full story has yet to be written.
Yeah - Kind of football Guru when someone can predict the crap thing exactly after a month of a new manager tenure. Ole is gone dude. Get over your favorite , for once.
The team hasn't performed as good as we hoped for but I'd still take RR over fecking Conte.
For a longest time, we actually have someone who knows how to build a football club.
When club spent over 100m for fecking AWB and Macguire. Everyone knew the problem lay deeper.
For a longest time, we actually have someone who knows how to build a football club.
When club spent over 100m for fecking AWB and Macguire. Everyone knew the problem lay deeper.
Have we really improved with Rangnick?
I think our best period this season, is probably the short period when Carrick took over. Yeh small sample size doesn't says much really, but Rangnick has been rather unimpressive during his time with us so far over the past 3 months:
1-4 vs City
0-0 vs Watford
1-1 vs Southampton
1-1 vs Burnley
1-1 vs Middlesborough
0-1 vs Wolves
1-1 vs Newcastle
1-1 vs Young Boys
I think our best period this season, is probably the short period when Carrick took over. Yeh small sample size doesn't says much really, but Rangnick has been rather unimpressive during his time with us so far over the past 3 months:
1-4 vs City
0-0 vs Watford
1-1 vs Southampton
1-1 vs Burnley
1-1 vs Middlesborough
0-1 vs Wolves
1-1 vs Newcastle
1-1 vs Young Boys
Brilliant retort. I’ve really met my match. Your response was so insightful, so cutting…
I suppose it would be more accurate to say he's not trying to solve the midfield problem, since it may not be his problem by summer anyway.
He's been saying he's only focused on the current squad and isn't making transfer plans, so it might be more accurate to say it won't be his problem until he moves upstairs (so to speak). Which may not happen.
It's a crap situation, but we're in for an entire cultural reset. I don't think they wanted to bring in anyone who wasn't a long term target, and create another potential problem down the line.
At that point, there's a serious limit to what Ralf can do. I think people should be patient.
Nope dont rate him at all. He has shown absolutely nothing since he has been here.
Such an average manager who was at Schalke level for a reason.
Why oh why would you take Pogba off and replace him with Lingard?
We lost the game right at that point.
Why oh why would you take Pogba off and replace him with Lingard?
We lost the game right at that point.
Thought we were quite decent up till their 2nd goal. Heads went down after that. Sloppy passing. Elanga I think it was who gave the ball away. Up till that moment, we were having decent possession, pressing well, looking to break and actually seemed like we'd create two or three more big chances. Team had a good structure.
We were dominated after that, especially after the 3rd goal. Felt like I was watching Barcelona, no chance of getting the ball.
I felt Pogba was a bit gassed to be honest.
We were dominated after that, especially after the 3rd goal. Felt like I was watching Barcelona, no chance of getting the ball.
I felt Pogba was a bit gassed to be honest.
That's fair but to me we had no forwards the whole game - Sancho, Bruno, Pogba and Elanga at the start.
What helped us was the ability to be creative and quick.
We bought on Rashford and Lingard - but reduced the creativity we had because Bruno was still playing as our forward too.
Well said.
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Fair point. Rashford was actually on the wing for a while too. Was annoying to see us giving the ball away the few times we got it.
He’s okay. I don’t remember him ever making within-game modifications—other than like-for-like subs and switching to a back 5 to protect a lead—that have changed a game. And we’ve had many games that have called for something different.
I get that too much tinkering can be detrimental as well but alas..
I get that too much tinkering can be detrimental as well but alas..
RR seems to have more buddies or admirers in the press than almost any other Utd Manager and seems to evade criticism. I think he has proven to be quite a bad choice as interim manager and will most certainly cost us 4th place which was a realistic possibility with a different manager. The teams he puts out seem to show almost 0 character something which Ole managed on many occasions.
We needed an interim who could motivate and inspire the team in the short term. He was never going to get the job long term so this appointment didn't make sense to me, considering his track record. Should have just been offered a consultant role straight away.
Oh no, he is as bad as Ole or worse than him, as per the so called experts.
Brilliant or not, but I would expect more sense from someone who "claim" to have played Bundesliga second division.
Pep’s City isnt the most physical team, yet they dominate every teams in the PL. His players are tactical aware, work their socks off, technically very good. Because of that, the more physical teams cant even come close to them.
Considering how this season is going/has gone -
I do wonder if going for Van Gaal as an interim to Ten Hag would have been a decent decision.
Most fans would probably not be able to handle that though.
I do wonder if going for Van Gaal as an interim to Ten Hag would have been a decent decision.
Most fans would probably not be able to handle that though.
Wrong, it's because he's an interim manager who took over a team that was getting battered left right and centre.
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