Yes. It was only the recruitment. I mean its not like he wanted Maguire right
I did. We came 2nd and 3rd and things were actually good for a while. Wheels came off this season through some absolutely disastrous recruitment decisions.
I'm good with this.Rangnick should give Elanga and Hannibal a run of games. I could care less about a top 6 finish. Tumble down the table, cut the dross in the summer and completely rebuild. Middling Murtough can feck off as well, just give the DOF role to Rangnick and let him rebuild.
Haha this is so true. Why are people so worked up? He won't be manager in 2 months. So there's not even a point in "sacking" him.Ah yes, let's blame the new manager that hasn't had a preseason and arrived to a team that picked up 4 from 24 points on offer, along with no backing in January. It's totally his fault.
Poch would still be a worthwile and proper appointment (even if you think, and I agree, there might be one or two more interesting ones out there), and miles better than Moyes (who was just not comfortable at such a size club and the expected kind of football, even if he's clearly a capable manager in the right environment), Van Gaal and Mourinho (who were both past it, one long since and one freshly but acutely), and Solskjaer (who just had no business managing a club at the level based on his previous achievements, in relation to which he did kind of well).You feel like the club are trying to repeat this again and hope Poch gets sacked.
Poch would still be a worthwile and proper appointment (even if you think, and I agree, there might be one or two more interesting ones out there), and miles better than Moyes (who is just not comfortable at such a size club and the expected kind of football), Van Gaal and Mourinho (who were both past it, one long since and one freshly but acutely), and Solskjaer (who just had no business managing a club at the level based on his previous achievements, in relation to which he did kind of well).
Left with a squad assembled by an overwhelmed man. I feel for him.. The shit he has to field is not even funny
Exactly. Of course the squad needs work. But it's unneccessary to call it "rotten" when you don't have someone in place to manage it properly.
The decisions regarding managerial appointments in the post Fergie era were much worse, and much more fatefully so, than the choice of player transfers.
We got those 3rd and 2nd place with a squad that was still in transition as well. I don’t see why the teams we beat those years should be allowed any excuses (Ole never was).I did. We came 2nd and 3rd and things were actually good for a while. Wheels came off this season through some absolutely disastrous recruitment decisions.
I think there are a few rotten elements but Bruno, Sancho, Varane for example aren’t.
Director job is completely different to the manager job so just because he sucks at the latter doesn't mean he will suck at the former. But the club has definitely muddied the water the way they've gone about business here. If the idea was that his long term role is director/consultant they should've given him that role straight away. Now however he will have this failed interim period as baggage when he moves upstairs in the summer.
People surely can’t look at how many players in this squad who give away good possession constantly and maintain a view that it’s a good squad?
I thought Ole’s “saving grace” was that he’d built a good squad for the next guy, but you can’t remain pig headed when you can clearly see that so many of these players you rated, are in fact, wank. No manager is somehow covering these weaknesses, squad needs another massive overhaul.
Poch would still be a worthwile and proper appointment (even if you think, and I agree, there might be one or two more interesting ones out there), and miles better than Moyes (who was just not comfortable at such a size club and the expected kind of football, even if he's clearly a capable manager in the right environment), Van Gaal and Mourinho (who were both past it, one long since and one freshly but acutely), and Solskjaer (who just had no business managing a club at the level based on his previous achievements, in relation to which he did kind of well).
It can’t be worse than carrying on as we are. (Can it?!)I'm good with this.
Left with a squad assembled by an overwhelmed man. I feel for him.. The shit he has to field is not even funny
Victim of his own success. Before he managed Spurs noone would have demanded that the Spurs team 'should win trophies', because, well, they're Spurs. However, from what can be seen and from PSG fans themselves write on here, yeah there's question marks about his work there indeed, but for me not conclusive enough to wash away all the good work he did before.No disrespect, but I say we are in for a very bad surprise with Poch. He had all the time to build a Spurs team that should have won at least 2 trophies by now, but he ended up with nothing. If he can't make unanimity at PSG considering where they are on all fronts, what makes you believe he can be the better choice for us? Besides, I'm just fed up with that BS about Premier League experience for a player or a manager.
No disrespect, but I say we are in for a very bad surprise with Poch. He had all the time to build a Spurs team that should have won at least 2 trophies by now, but he ended up with nothing. If he can't make unanimity at PSG considering where they are on all fronts, what makes you believe he can be the better choice for us?
Besides, I'm just fed up with that BS about Premier League experience for a player or a manager.
I suspect we hired the right man for the wrong job.
Defensively Smalling was miles better than Maguire and better than every other CB like Blind, Baily, Jones, Lindelof.Huh? Darmian, Young, Smalling, Bailly, Alexis, these are all better than our current lot?
but the ole outers used to proclaim this a title winning squad because Ole had finished second but should be doing oh so much better
Yeah, that didn’t happen.
but the ole outers used to proclaim this a title winning squad because Ole had finished second but should be doing oh so much better
And Ole inners used to proclaim their beloved Ole left us with a great squad and legacy and at a better shape than what he inherited.
it defintely did
i believe he did. Im not especially an ole inner either. We have some players in dreadful form this season. We also have a shite interim following a manager who it went downhill for
He’s not doing a good enough job with these players which I think is part circumstance and partly his age. In a different role he might be just what we need.Ole apologists are unbearable at this point. Take your beloved Ole discussions away. We want to discuss the current manager in this thread. We can open another thread for such stupid comparisons to fill it with your agendas as much as you like.
Away from that..I didn't watch today's game but I don't need it to know that Ralf won't be good enough long term. It has been obvious for a while.
but the ole outers used to proclaim this a title winning squad because Ole had finished second but should be doing oh so much better
Like cockroaches the Ole in brigade out in full force. INTERIM manager rangnick taking the heat having to get a tune out of an over pampered, overpaid and unbalanced squad that he had nothing to do in building. Many of you need to calm down. We’re witnessing the destructive end to the Woodward/Ole era. Whether Murtough can turn it around is questionable but it seems the next dickhead CEO Arnold wants to take a different approach in his role. We are about 2 to 3 years away from being taken seriously again.
You believing it or not doesn't mean it's true. He got us while we're 6th and miles away from the top, left us at 7th and miles away from the top. He took the squad in a toxic state, left it in a toxic state. He took the squad in need of several key signings and with a lot of overpaid, high price tag clowns, left it in need of several key signings and with a lot of overpaid, high price tag clowns.
He’s not doing a good enough job with these players which I think is part circumstance and partly his age. In a different role he might be just what we need.
It’s probably true that there was never the intention to make him permanent coach because he hasn’t got the energy to do it and all parties have known this, I’m sure. I like him though.
It wasn't a title winning squad and he bought the wrong players but it should certainly have done better than it did under him.
Pep and Klopp didn’t start too well eitherI reckon PL experience matters to some extent in that that style of play is very different when compared to, say, Holland.
in the Dutch league there is pretty much no physicality and it’s very much positional play focused. Therefore there would be an element of the game to adapt to. Not a deal breaker but definitely different.
Pep and Klopp both had experience of German league which is a bit more like ours.
