certainly an option but think Id play Bruno as false 9 with Elanga/Sancho in wide attacking areas.
Elanga looks such a bright option. Shame he couldnt put a finish on that chance - would have been a brilliant goal.
Ralf Rangnick | ex-interim manager | does anyone rate him?
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Elanga looks such a bright option. Shame he couldnt put a finish on that chance - would have been a brilliant goal.
Ole was here for multiple years and had the time and money to build a squad to his requirements.
Rangnick took over a dumpster-fire of a team just a few months ago, has signed nobody, has had to try and implement an entirely different approach and knows he'll be gone in a few months.
Who did you think was going to have the better stats?
Yeah, you’re right… It’s fake news (or fake stats) unless it fits your narrative. Confirmation bias is a bitch, isn’t it?
People clamour for Bruno as a false 9 yet Bruno can’t score either.
If we actually had a consistent striker we’d be in a much better position for Top 4.
Ronaldo is struggling in a pressing side, in Ole’s counter attack side he was more dangerous, hence the goals against Newcastle, all came on the counter.
If we actually had a consistent striker we’d be in a much better position for Top 4.
Ronaldo is struggling in a pressing side, in Ole’s counter attack side he was more dangerous, hence the goals against Newcastle, all came on the counter.
Bringing Rashford on.
To be honest, he’s right, this forum would sake ETH if he comes in and isn’t dicking teams 4-0 each and every week by Christmas.
Guaran fecking teed.
Agree, really poor no excuses at this point.
Ralf's 13 PL fixtures have been significantly easier than the 12 Ole had before being (rightfully) sacked.
We signed Sancho, Ronaldo and Varane…. If you have a standard of performance for Ole, isn’t it duplicitous to not have that same standard for Ralf?
If we hired Ralf to save top 4, I expect Ralf to have better stats. Is that an outrageous expectation? I don’t think so.
We were totally dominating the game with Matic holding and I think taking him off cost us. There was no foundation or structure from that point onwards
Yes. I really do hope Rangnick can figure this out.
Ole deserved to be sacked, but the hiring of Ralf as interim may end up being a mistake.
Why would ETH join us when we aren’t in the CL?
He cannot play a whole 90 mins and I would be wanting him to play against City. Not that it will likely make much difference.
Whoever we brought in would have been an interim. The class of manager we want are not available.
Didn’t know we’d been knocked out of the UCL? When did that happen? Enlighten me
People need to calm their nerves.
This is a Watford we shipped 4 goals against, today we have 22 chances against. One of the most one sided games in recent times.
Ralf biggest mistake is not benching Ronaldo, and in more ways than one, it makes us so poor.
Imagine Ralf with a real young striker plus a functioning midfield.
People need to understand is situation. Broken team, mid season without coaches, Mason saga, games after game, COVID disruption, leaks from dressing room.
This is a Watford we shipped 4 goals against, today we have 22 chances against. One of the most one sided games in recent times.
Ralf biggest mistake is not benching Ronaldo, and in more ways than one, it makes us so poor.
Imagine Ralf with a real young striker plus a functioning midfield.
People need to understand is situation. Broken team, mid season without coaches, Mason saga, games after game, COVID disruption, leaks from dressing room.
This could have been a game for Cavani if he could actually be fit for once.
What can RR do when he have a slot of attacking players who
Past his prime - Ronaldo (Drop his ability a lot after Sep 2021, even finishing and his salary can replace two/three decent players) / Cavani (Injury a lot)
Lost his mind after surgery - Rashford
Injury more than play and not willing to play - Martial
Got arrested - Greenwood
Injured and came back a few match - Pogba
Loss his form - Burno
Then when RR hoped to strengthen the team in the winter transfer window after loan some players out.
No ONE! the fecking board have not buy anyone for RR.
Then what can he should do for attacking? Who else can be selected for attacking?
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Next year’s CL… two paths… win the CL this season (not likely) or get top 4 (looking less likely after today’s results). So, year, bringing ETH here at the end of the season is less likely if we don’t make CL. Not saying it’s impossible, just saying it’s less likely…
So you’re saying that Ralf Rangnick, a man who hasn’t managed in 2 years, was previously DoF of a Russian side, and in 19 seasons of management has one solitary major trophy, the German Cup in 2011 with Shalke, was our best option for interim? For one of the biggest clubs in the world? I don’t believe that.
You look at the fixture list since he came in and he’s done a pretty poor job so far. Yes our play is slightly better but we are massively failing to get results against the worst teams.
The Greenwood situation has really fecked us up.
Of course it's an unrealistic expectation. Ole should have better stats than Rangnick over the full course of their respective United careers. It's not even a question of their performances, it's a question of sample sizes.
You're comparing a tiny sample of Rangnick games that occurred exclusively in circumstances where his impact is expressly limited (i.e. no pre-seasons, no signings, little time to implement a style of play) versus a much larger sample size of Solskjaer games where he had all the benefits of multiple pre-seasons, millions spent molding the team to his requirements and years to get the team playing as he wanted.
Solskjaer isn't a particularly good manager but he isn't so bad that handing him all those massive advantages isn't going to see him fare better statistically than a Rangnick who has had absolutely none of them.
Who would you be bringing in as interim. Think Ralf was brought in more for his future role as well. They want his advise on restructuring this side and it does need it. He is at least seeing up close and personal where the problems are.
Yes it has.
Yes, how could Ralf miss this chance?? Ralf should have scored here. Sack him before his contract runs out.
Hmm, so a bit like comparing Rangnick with Ole's last couple of months? Rangnick should have better stats, yet people still bring up the comparison to show that we've improved.
Not send a whole bunch of players out on loan when you're fully aware that Cavani is injury prone and Rashford is out of form?
Try something different? Bruno false 9? Rashford through the middle which was a success the previous time we had an interim? Anything else that doesn't require a guy who has played one goal in 2022 playing more or less 90 mins up top in every game?
The guy is supposed to be a footballing mastermind. He's being paid a hefty sum to figure it out. Reality is that he has no clue. We had a golden opportunity to get top 4 with the fixtures we've had in his 2.5 months. We bottled it. He's somehow sitting on a dreadful 47.5 % win percentage. And this is before our tough fixtures have even begun.
Shows how important a proper midfielder who can add composure and control is to this team. Madness that we didn't attempt to get one who can play more than Matic in during the January transfer window.
That is a big part of the problem.
The results have been poor, we all agree. Even Ralf himself he will concede.
Yes he needs to find a formula of finishing chances, maybe on training Ronaldo is finishing chances after chances, that's why he plays.
But is main undoing is playing Ronaldo, he needs to try something else in training, a new way of playing without Ronaldo. Only that, yes simple thing but with huge ramifications.
I agree. I'm only pointing this out as its easy to look at Ole with one side of the glass.
We looked very good during project restart when we had both Pogba and Matic fit in midfield. For most of his time, he was usually forced to play Fred and Mctominay; with Rangnick proving how miraculous it was that we were able to get anything from playing with that duo.
It is Ole's fault that we didn't prioritize signing a DM and in truth he took a really soft approach on the Pogba situation which has been part of the reason our midfield is still as woeful as this ( the Pogba situation should have ended in 2019).
My point is, it's becoming clearer everyday that it wasn't simply Ole's tactics that led to us having that poor start. It was the players. The lack of quality in key areas mixed in with the lack of pressure from our frontline with the addition of Ronaldo.
Our biggest problem since Fergie left hasn't simply been managers. It has been our ability to sell poor performers which has led to limited signings in key positions. We don't punish mediocrity enough...ranging from our superstars to our depth.
Not this shit again, like a broken fecking clock this place when we lose.
Well certainly we'd have expected whoever we hired as interim manager to have improved us from the dire straits Ole left us in. The only reason to point to Rangnick having better stats in that regard is to show that it's happening. I certainly wouldn't point to them as evidence of Rangnick being god's gift to managers, he's raised our level from an extremely low bar.
But in a comparison between Ole this season and Rangnick this season, all those same advantages are still with Ole. Obviously Ole should have done better this season too. The fact that he didn't is why Rangnick is here in the first place.
You would hope they have now learnt a lesson and will not go down the end of their career signing road again.
The least problem at the moment arround this squad is RR. Those players and especially their attitude is a joke. Everyone wants to be an elite player and stuff like that but as soon as there are some obsacles their heads get down.
Really hope we've got the next manager as good as signed up, and that it's a good choice.
Have no confidence in either.
Really difficult summer for whoever it is, as we have a huge need for a centre mid and centre forward as a minimum, which is probably £150m worth between them.
Have no confidence in either.
Really difficult summer for whoever it is, as we have a huge need for a centre mid and centre forward as a minimum, which is probably £150m worth between them.
Can't argue with that. Obviously drawing is better than losing, and we've only lost once. The upcoming fixtures list is worrying though.
He's doing the bare minimum or probably even less considering the fixture schedule he has been handled. I hope the style of play will be worth it because otherwise results haven't been nothing to be proud about.
Yea i was thinking this as well. Should have kept matic on. Pogba as well just ran out of steam in the last 15.
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