Not really. You're writing off a manager who is still working his methods into a squad of thinly skinned players, 8 of whom want out of the club through no fault of his own.
But sure blame Rangnick because feck it, its easier.
Ralf Rangnick | ex-interim manager | does anyone rate him?
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But sure blame Rangnick because feck it, its easier.
Disagree there, I can see more structure in our play than what we had under Ole.
One obvious change is teams don't / can't play out the back against us anymore. Our positioning / pressing forces GKs to go long by default. This was never the case under Ole and we got killed by multiple teams when we attempted to run that press against goal kicks.
I also think there's much more structure when we try to build play out the back.
These are the two low hanging fruit - almost set piece like situations where simple instructions work fine and we've addressed it.
More dynamic situations are still a work in progress e.g., we have the ball, players high up the pitch, positioned somewhat freely and one of them gives the ball away. We try to counter press but no where near as good as teams like Chelsea, City, Pool etc.
On the other hand attacking play is fairly non existent. We try to create some 1v1 situations for our wide players but they can't really take advantage of them for some reason. Elanga was the only one who showed something when he was 1v1.
I think he needs a lot more time, but I'm confident we're headed in the right direction.
Agreed.
You think if Conte had been appointed that this team would be dominating the game? I'm not judging Rangnick here, but I do think those players are making a lot of unforced errors and losing loads of one on one battles, which has been the norm for a long while. No manager is responsible for that.
He's not the only problem, but he's certainly not the solution. His role is to be an interim to get us through the season with top 4 and he's failing.
are these 8 players the ones playing every week?
the entire squad clearly aren't buying into him
That's not a 4 3 3. It's a 4 5 1 with 2 cms who can't play that role and a striker as a winger. Hate to say it, but better put Matic in.
Conte would have either failed here or benched half the first team.
Cannot blame him when the players cannot even pass to each other and do not even make runs and cannot even win 50-50 balls. The team is rotten and it starts from midfield unfortunately. Yet Donny doesn't get a game and for that Ralf is to blame.
Keep up the lazy posts, you're doing a good job.
And even City took a year to get Pep's football right, with a title-winning squad and a pre season. Not the manager coming in mid season.
If by that you mean the players, I completely agree
So you think 8 players wanting out training with the first team doint have an impact on morale, buying into methods, competition for places and so on?
Nice. Keep up the thought process.
At least he wont be perm, this season is definitely a write off, qe just got to hope for Europa League.
Rangnick is showing us how shite the players are. He'd weeding them out for next season.
Back the manager you knobs.
Back the manager you knobs.
spot the difference….
Ole inherits a team that that finished the previous season 2nd, but started the season poorly, and the squad looked patchy with no identity. Immediately went on an unprecedented run of wins.
Ralph inherits a team that that finished the previous season 2nd, but started the season poorly, and the squad looked patchy with no identity. Absolutely no new manager bounce, and getting outplayed and fought against mainly weaker opposition, and relying on our GK being on fire to get any results.
And I am no Ole apologist. He had to go.
but don’t tell me ralph is doing a good job. We are playing some of the worst football I’ve ever seen us play.
Correct, the players are shite, lazy and want to start a fresh
There is more structure but what can he do when Fred is passing the ball to their strikers when he’s almost last man, or when instead of playing a quick pass to Bruno in space he turns back to mctom who then plays it back?
when his striker choice is 36 or 37 years old
When the previous manager spent 130 mil on AWB and maguire
When the best player is Pogba, but he hasn’t got the minerals to perform the role
Just the same people who think the manager is responsible for all our issues
Doesn't look like they're playing for him. Not much has changed from Ole's time other than playing Alex and Dalot. We're still awful most of the time, and the team has no chemistry.
Let's not forget that relatively we're going through easy fixtures. It's gonna get much tougher soon.
Let's not forget that relatively we're going through easy fixtures. It's gonna get much tougher soon.
What a stupid post. Expecting a manager who is coming to the league for the first time to correct players when they cannot pass to each other and cannot run. This is not a Sunday league. The manager sets up the tactics. The players implement it on the field. The manager cannot babysit the players and teach them how to kick a football.
He is trying something... but the quality and the mentality just isn't there to execute it properly. A lot of the people on the pitch just aren't good enough. Need to clear house.
So far he is more of a professor than anything. Some people are best left in academia than in the field. Not writing him off yet but it's concerning we are still so unbelievably poor after almost 2 months.
People should just be thankful Rangnick isnt ever going to be considered for the permanent job, and hopefully this season will at least spell out to the board just how bad shape the squad is in, and how badly we've done in recruiting dross like AWB and Maguire and putting all our hopes on Rashford coming good.
Top four was pretty much off the table the second the board turned down Conte.
Top four was pretty much off the table the second the board turned down Conte.
Its hilarious isnt it. They come and moan half time to Brentdord away as though they havent seen big sides struggle there.
Such short term memories, they probably dont remember Tuchels Chelsea having their pants pulled down performance wise at this ground.
The seasons were anything but normal
The circumstances are not similar
He is also not here for longer than the season, he is here to bring a footballing brain to the club
something our midfield doesn’t have.
No fans, no pressure, these players work well
Fans, pressure, expectations, they crumble
That's literally one of the worst halfs you'll see and he leaves the same XI in the second half. He is happy how they've played then.
You ever played football mate???
Yes it might have been a poor half but it was nil nil, why would we make changes at halftime? give them a doing and guess what we are one nil up
Wrong. Players are failing. They failed under lot of previous managers and they are failing now. Stop putting blame on managers.
I honestly don’t get it. It will be the same next year as well whether it’s Poch or Ten Hag, and the line will be we should have got the other one because they’ll be successful wherever they are that isn’t United.
We need to purge the squad to get anywhere.
I promise I'm not. Our midfield hasn't been run over so far and that's a big deal. I'm thinking about this from the point of view of Rangnick's performance in setting us up and giving instructions.
Egg on your face mateYou ever played football mate???
Yes it might have been a poor half but it was nil nil, why would we make changes at halftime? give them a doing and guess what we are one nil up
Have we clicked? Is this the new start of our season?
We've been shit but are somehow 2 goals up.
Not much to disagree. Agree clearly the players are a big part of it.
But I still expected him to just organize us better. And that might still be a reflection on the players not able to follow Rangnick. But I feel any manager worth his salt should be able to organize us and our defense better.
But that's all short term issues.
Long term we are decked.
Making changes at 2-0 up. Learnt from Villa. That's a good sign.
In theory, sensible changes as well. Shore up the back, keep a threat up top.
Is that the right shore by the way? Or is it sure?
In theory, sensible changes as well. Shore up the back, keep a threat up top.
Is that the right shore by the way? Or is it sure?
People seeing more “structure” in our play 
. We’ve been just as open and aimless as we’ve ever been.
. We’ve been just as open and aimless as we’ve ever been.You can't expect a new manager to come in and implement a totally new style of play within a handful of games. Especially when he hasn't added any players of his own. You just can't.
Conte's done it. It's why Spurs will finish in the top 4 ahead of us
What totally new style of play has Conte implemented?
Tuchel managed it as well last season
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