A few weeks gone and it's still Ralf who? These players won't listen to him, he can't sack then, he can't sell them, he's stuck with them. None will leave because they are on stupid money. Yup we are in the smelly stuff big time.
Ralf Rangnick | ex-interim manager | does anyone rate him?
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"Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence." Vince Lombardi
Too many prima donna characters in the dressing room, just content to be millionaires.
If there's anything in that, I hope Ronaldo shouts "SIUUUUUUUUUUUUU" in their faces one by one until they get the message.
Not like RR can deal with this shit in any significant way as 'the club accepted that'. Even if RR can deal with it perfectly, who is to say the next manager would not want a different stuff?
Restart are always the best at the end of the season. Not in the middle one with hiring someone totally new for 6 months. Though I think the club probably thought and hoped that Carrick and Mckean would have stayed to steady the ship with RR till the end of the season.
Maybe it is more to do with RR casting his eye over the players regarding who is up to scratch, is intelligent, willing to take advice and is happy to try new tactics. Think he will be shocked with what he is seeing.
Thats pathetic by the club, just empowering the players again
Isn’t it obvious?seriously? So players are sad because Jessie fecking Lingard doesn't start ? Who comes up with these kind of shit ?
Out of all benched players , who actually make a case to start? DVB is the only one I can think of and we are still unsure whether he is a CM or a no 10.
These are all reflecting badly on players. If they think they can tarnish Ralf they themselves are getting embarrassed in the public. Fecking shit, do they really think they have a divine right to play for United ?
I dont care if we are relegated. Stay strong Ralf.
I did think this but I think this has been briefed with the benefit of hindsight.
True.Players need to know who the boss is and that he is going to be boss for the foreseeable .
If RR is not going to be a perm manager, it is not his job to see who is intelligent or whatever. It is the job of a perm manager. His job would have been advising to who knows what on how to recruit and change the structure over all, not to gut the united squad over a proper and perm manager. I even doubt he would have that much control as we have a sporting director for that in the first place. He was given that consultant role because he asked for it apparently. United probably did not even think about following in his methods or whatever in the first place.
Managers do have different ideas. Laying foundation is such a bs statement in modern football. At least it has never happened with us, past or present in a consecutive order.
Well RR is apparently going upstairs at the end of the season with the aim of shaping the squad and making more shrewd signings moving forward to help the next manager instead of him having to come in and find all this out in the first 6 months in the job.
Which permanent manager were we going to get at that stage? You can blame the board for that one. Conte had already gone. You think these divas would be happy with him. They want someone who pats them on the head all the time, when what they actually need is a reality check. That you earn your money if you play for Manchester United, not float through games dreaming about how you are going to spend your next pay packet. The top managers are currently at clubs competing for the big trophies, there was no chance they would come here at the moment. I am still a bit worried that Brendan Rodgers name keeps cropping up.
As I said above, he does not have to dive into managing these players. He advises and the club directors and manager will look into it. Do we even know what his job description looks like? I have yet to see.
Seems like some of you guys are convinced that RR will do what you think he will. Even then, he will have to be the 'right' guy for it. We don't know yet. United would not just sell players based on the fact that RR says so. That's now how this club works as we know for sure.
I am not laying it on him. I think the club once again moved it wrong. You hope they can get an up and coming managers who are still at their peak at the end of the season rather than the ones based on some distant past reputations we have been hiring for the past decade.
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I am not talking about the solution at this point. I am just arguing against the points that people made that RR is there to access the squad by managing it for 6 months and will lay foundation for the next manager. Which imo is silly. That's all.
Since some fans like to believe in this process and RR too much (based on nothing imo) that they turn on against the players. Might be right or might not be. I don't think United fans are in the right mind set atm including me to judge the situation properly.
I am just also tempering my expectation with this RR guy so that I don't get disappointed too much later or get angry at everything that moves. And just feel that people projecting their anger at players might not have been all fair.
Yeah, let Ralf get rid of all the cr*p once and for all so new guy can have a clean slate.
Think it depends who they seriously want as manager. Think RR would have a good idea which sort of players that manager would want in his squad. Actually think if they go for Poch nothing much will change. I want someone who will want hard working players, players who can keep that going for the majority of the match. I think this squad does need a good shake up.
Even SAF did not know or get it right that who would follow him good. I mean is there any other managers who are good with it? At least not in the past few decades.
So it is best that we don't ping all the hopes on RR to search for a new manager which will work for us let alone would know how that manager would think. He might be good with building Redbull teams in other countries. City hired some other people and same with the likes of Chelsea. People might be overestimating RR's capability here. We just plucked him out of a Russian club who didn't even ask for money and didn't let his assistant leave.
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That's cods, have you seen what Harry Kane is playing like? Conte has made no difference to him whatsoever.
All those moaning we didn't get Conte, do you really think these players we have would be playing any different to how they now are?
Hard to pass the ball when your midfield and forwards are not moving or making space for the pass.
Ronaldo's a winner, everybody knows that, he is as equally upset at the way UTD are performing on the pitch as us supporters, so, if anybody thinks that Ronaldo is the problem with UTD this season then they are barking up the wrong tree.
Feel sorry for RR. I bet he never imagined this sort of mess was awaiting him!
He is going to be a 'consultant', a completely undefined role. I hope he has real influence but certainly won't be getting my hopes up
Assuming this is true... do these players know that Rangnick will be here for 2 more years as a consultant after this season?
I hope Old Trafford backs the manager in our next match. Would send the right signal to the players I feel.
Havent disliked our team as much as recently. So much wrong with them
Do these clowns realize they're supposed to play for the team and not for the manager to care about how long he's going to last ?
Why do people think Pochettino is the answer? He began his managerial career with Espanyol in 2009, then went to Southampton, Spurs and PSG; 12 years as a manager and all he has won is the French equivalent of the FA Cup and the French equivalent of the Charity Shield, the Trophee des Champions, as well as being runner up in the League Cup, Champions League and the Trophee des Champions. Not exactly earth shattering stuff!
It looks as if the club would go along with the players once again, who had seen out a parade of managers. I was hoping this time the club would do the right thing. This means that the permanent manager would inherit the squad and the mess. Ten Hag or whoever will spend a season to clean up and, only thereafter, may improve United's fortunes.
Maybe it's all a huge misunderstanding.
Maybe, if the players had to google Rangnick, they also googled Gegenpressing.
And now they're all intensely and eagerly gegen pressing.
Maybe, if the players had to google Rangnick, they also googled Gegenpressing.
And now they're all intensely and eagerly gegen pressing.
How many times have you been to Carrington to see how he looks?
Are you purposefully being dim? Its based on his failed track record as a coach and his own interviews on coaching.
Bet you reckon one needs to go to the Arctic to know its cold
Records don't matter at all though when you consider hiring people in the football training. Or something.Are you purposefully being dim? Its based on his failed track record as a coach and his own interviews on coaching.
Bet you reckon one needs to go to the Arctic to know its cold
Maybe he needs to get his finger out oif his ar$e and actually do something on the pitch, instead of standing around waving his arms moodily.
You mean like scoring? Look, he has been an issue for us this season with some stuff.
But he can demand people around him to play better. That's what leaders do. Keane did it when obviously his capability was not as good as it used to due to aging and injuries. And Neville, Giggs, Ferdinand etc all did it. They could do that because of what they had achieved in football.
If younger players are upset and sulk about being told to be better, we know they won't have the right mentality to become top footballers regardless of Ronaldo or whoever. Those who will keep on developing themselves and shut those senior players out eventually. That's what Ronaldo did back then.
In that sense, he probably is not an issue yet.
To be fair Greenwood is bloody greedy.
Thor: Ralf Ragnorak coming to a cinema near you soon
Someone call the plumber, we've got another leak.
By the time we play our next game every single one of our players will make me hate them
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