This. Also this match was Ralf given players a game that won’t feature much and young players the experience of CL football in a game that meant nothing. He obviously wanted to see if others could stand out and maybe break into our first 11
Ralf Rangnick | ex-interim manager | does anyone rate him?
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They went against his instructions, isn't he allowed to say that? He's hardly done a Jose and singled out individuals. Some people are very precious.
Yeah I agree, Jose criticism was always against individuals not the team. A manager can be up happy with the team post match
lets watch and enjoy. RR will give us the best 6 months since Fergie!
Anyone crying he's pointing out players not following instructions seriously needs to go watch bowls or something.
Tuchel called out CHO last season and hooked him at half time. Now he's playing great for them.
Seriously, the guy's a pro not some chancer who got the job through sheer luck or circumstance.
I have not felt this way about our manager since Fergie.
Tuchel called out CHO last season and hooked him at half time. Now he's playing great for them.
Seriously, the guy's a pro not some chancer who got the job through sheer luck or circumstance.
I swear, he can tell the journos to stop breathing for 30 seconds and do star jumps and they'll do it. The guy doesn't ask for respect, he just commands it.
I have not felt this way about our manager since Fergie.
Didn't watch the game but modernizing our football is a big job. Pressing teams hight up and effectively is one thing and that'll take time but Ralf /the permanent manager has to turn us into a team capable of playing high quality possession unit too. Only being effectively on the counter press (which is something we aren't yet) will not be enough.
I like Rangnick as much as anyone but some of the comments here!!! 
You would have thought it was the feckin' 2nd Coming!
You would have thought it was the feckin' 2nd Coming!
We should temper our expectations for sure. He's an interim manager who isn't proven at the elite level. But it would be lovely if he can modernize how we play into something exciting. But as I said alongside the tactical improvements it's crucial we hire the right permanent manager.I like Rangnick as much as anyone but some of the comments here!!!
You would have thought it was the feckin' 2nd Coming!
This. Ole's make everyone happy approach doesnt work in top level management of any field. We are not choir boys. I would argue one of Ole's downfall is trying to make everyone like him. It is refreshing to see crap performance getting called out. None of this smiling bollox
He is honest and I like that. He wants his side to play in a certain way and knows what he wants so nothing wrong with him being unhappy. Pep , Klopp all criticize the teams performance, so why shouldn't ragnick do the same. If some players want to be treated like flowers then too bad for them.
Honeymoon period is finished.
Simon Stone sounded like he was about to crap his pants during his greeting like usual.
Great to see him make so many changes today and rest our entire first 11. That takes some balls, even in a dead rubber of a game like this. He gave some players a chance to show what they could do and I bet he got some answers - not all good. Bailly was excellent, Donny did quite well apart from the mistake for the goal, Shaw looked good while he was on and Greenwood is a class player, even though he faded as the game went on. AWB, Lingard, Matic, Mata all showed that they may not be up to it.
Interim manager....
We clearly have some interim players
We clearly have some interim players
Geez if he thought Greenwood was 'physically' not there yet, what did he think of those snow flakes on the field today? They must be a decade away
After starving for days, a saltine taste like a steak.I like Rangnick as much as anyone but some of the comments here!!!
You would have thought it was the feckin' 2nd Coming!
Is this another ploy of the Glazers to lower our expectation while still gaining revenue?
100! Like Jose..... oh wait....
I mean there is a difference between singling out a player in public and criticizing their overall performance as a group. Singling them out can be done in private.
Let's hope its not some plant-based steak.
He will tailor the steak to your nutritional needs after taking blood, saliva and urine samples from you.
I like what he said. Finally a coach who is the boss, that demands something and helds the players directly accountable! Fergie was the same
As it should be. Really surprised that people here are wondering if it is the right thing to call the performance "just ok, but not good". Of course it is, everything else would be denial of reality.
Did anyone see a post match interview of a player? Would be interesting to know if players and manager are on the same wavelength already and seeing it the same way.
Plus he didn't single out anyone. Good post match interview.
That wasn't Ole's approach at all though, he was from the Fergie school of defending in public and criticising in private.
The fact that Rangnick is criticising what we did badly isn't the difference between the two - the difference is what the criticism is and the detail. With Ole it was more basic, with some football clichés for good measure, something like "we have to defend better", whereas Ralf seems to have a better idea as to what the specific mistakes we were making were.
Matic was awful from about 30 minutes onwards. The square passing around the box was the least of his issues last night, it was the awful forward passing, he either gave the ball away or played a teammate into trouble (look at their goal as a great example, fired an Anderson style rocket launcher pass to Donny on the edge of our box). He also got caught out dawdling on the ball a couple of times too.
The "pressing invitation" criticism Rangnick mentioned summed up Matic last night, I'd have him as comfortably our worst player.
Sir Alex called bad performances unacceptable and always countered with he expects a reaction from the team. Ole was just nice about everyone, not similar at all.
I'm not interested in making this an Ole discussion, but he wasn't nice about everyone at all, that's just tired pub talk. It's become the equivalent of "the problem with Arsenal is they always try to walk it in".
Anyway, the point was that Rangnick's criticism was more specific, more detailed, and it's encouraging as it gives the impression that he knows how to fix it, beyond just working harder next match.
That's exactly what he's here to do. He's here to coach the side, not be their friends.
Maybe they've forgotten after Ole what a proper manager should be doing. His job here is to get them working like a proper unit, if they ignore him they won't be playing again.
None of this sentimental BS that Ole used to carry on with. I like that he speaks truthfully, he didn't rag on any individuals but said plainly this wasn't good enough and I expect better. Good!
Enough with that sugarcoating like Ole always did. RR is confident enough to say when things are bad, Ole didn't have that. People assumed he would do so behind closed doors but very unlikely, as he rather gave a lecture to the press what United was all about. Now the players know RR does not take any bullshit and hopefully plays those who perform
The last bit reminds me of the philosophy of Jose Mourinho. He too hated those passes in our third that invite pressure on to the team. On the other hand, Ole's teams always tried to pass from the back even when there were disastrous results!
I'd honestly just be happy if he can get us playing a distinct, proactive playstyle and then employs a good manager to succeed him when his time's done. Anything else is a bonus.
I love how honest, to the point and assured he is in his press conferences. Really nice to listen to.
It's quite funny. Some of the comments after the lineup last night in contrast to if Ole had put that team out were unbelievable. And the positivity still after sitting through that abomination of a game.I like Rangnick as much as anyone but some of the comments here!!!
You would have thought it was the feckin' 2nd Coming!
I mean, I am all for optimism, god knows this place needs it, but the double standards are mental.
Ole wouldn’t have put that team out, as that would have meant actually giving youth a chance. The game was poor but it was still a draw after all the changes, while Young Boys were pushing for a win to stay in Europe.
All about context, if this was the same performance from Ole after 3 years with the team then yeah it would be a negative. But in the context of a new manager giving a bunch of backup players a run out, a new formation, new tactics and giving a lot of youth players a run out, against a team who needed a win, in the champions league....its easy to see why the cafe is not as negative as it would be had it been under Ole.
For me it was interesting, we made some very good chances, but this group of players could not control the game which is understandble when you see who played. The team we played against palace would have destroyed this young boys team. So for me there was a lot of positives to take from the game rather than a lot of negatives.
Its not double standards, it having a methodology. You need a methodology in life.
Remember, if you have a methodology whether you're losing or winning having a methodology is the only way you can win.
Even in life. This is what Ralf has which Ole did not have. Thus Ole did not win anything in 3 years. Even on those promising Ole runs he had a plan / methodology of playing, which was playing counter attacking football, which when he abandon them we had a free fall.
So Ralf is not a messiah but its only with a methodology you can win anything in life, to which Ralf has in abundance, to which fans are positive with.
A new manager will get more leeway, there's nothing more to it.
This take makes little sense. The manager put a team of players that have had little game time and gave an opportunity to a handful of youth players. That's exactly what people wants for these games that have less importance. The double standard would have been to be happy to see a strong team instead of resting starters and giving youth players game time.
Double standards? Ole got 3 years and people judged him accordingly. If Ole put the team like this, he would have been praised as it was a dead rubber and had 0 impact on our season. Ole played Bruno, Rashford in the games where they weren't needed, that's when he got lot of stick. If he plays a complete new 11 so that first team can have proper rest before we enter the busiest month of the season, he would have been praised for squad management.
Yes game was shit and that was expected. We played CM as a CM. 2 light weight players in CM, 2 teenagers as AMs. This game is all about match fitness and game time for back up players and resting first team.
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