Ralf will do more for our youth players in 6 months than Ole in 3 years
Ralf Rangnick | ex-interim manager | does anyone rate him?
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It’s helps to press as a team as well. Does no good for the forwards to press while the midfielders hide or pass back to defense or keeper only to have the keeper boot it up field to the other team.
I agree. Ole's plan was this - we have better quality players than other teams, if we can work harder than other teams, we will win. I think that was a bit too naive if he actually implemented that strategy and was not just speaking in generalities for interviews.
Rang nick is correct
This is an important bit of speculation I agree with. For a player who made his name as a super sub, Ole was diabolical when it came to in-game management. But worse than that was that he did virtually nothing to develop our youth players.
Ole was so reliant on the first xi he couldn't rotate without significantly jeopardizing the result. People afforded him the rationale that we had no quality outside our first 11, which is why it was important to back him in the summer to show his overreliance was less about quality and more about incompetence. He didn't even know how to fit a number of his own signings into his starting xi.
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Ole is a definition of chequebook manager. A crap one that is. His only tactic is to have a better player in every single position than opponent and work harder. I think the organization and pressing in RR first game truly exposes how bad Ole's coaching in 3 years. We always looked like sunday league players who played together for the first time under Ole. Also because he depended on playing better players than opponent he cant rotate with youngsters and bench players which is why he fielded the same xi all the time until they got burnt out or injured
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I'm sick of hearing Goldbridge and others say Ranyick or Ragnick. It's not as bad as that pundit who used to pronounce Ole's surname 'Solskeeyaara' to try and be cool and hip years ago.
I think I need to not sweat the small stuff so much
Funnily, it's actually the kj in Solskjaer that's pronounced like English y. If they try to be hip, at least they should get it right. You can just find this on Wikipedia!Thanks guys.
I'm sick of hearing Goldbridge and others say Ranyick or Ragnick. It's not as bad as that pundit who used to pronounce Ole's surname 'Solskeeyaara' to try and be cool and hip years ago.
I think I need to not sweat the small stuff so much
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:No-Ole_Gunnar_Solskjær.ogg
Yes. Our Lord Ralf will lead us to the promised land.
Yeah, it's all one player's fault that we went out. Great football knowledge there.
Nobody claimed to be better than RR. I am quite calm with him at the helm. And confident that he will either improve McT or bench him - because the current version of McT is not good enough. Watch the game against CP again; McT was a liability, losing the ball with poor passing and giving multiple freekicks away because he likes to tackle from behind and is shit at it.
I don't say we should not run more.
I am just thinking that it was different due to the fact that we camped in their box more and played in a smaller area which might have effected our stats a bit.
Thanks for the info. Yes, it was quite strange. This guy really went over the top with it too. Really extended the end. Sol ski yaaara. Same commentator would say other players names in a flat english accent then burst into a flamboyant Solskeeyaaara! then back to saying things normally.
Years ago some other twonk commentator (maybe it was the same one?) would suddenly turn Italian too and say 'Ambrosetti' and others names in a really over the top Italian accent, then instantly go back to a boring flat no accent to say the English players names. 'David Beckham gets tackled there by AMBROSETTI!! haha. sorry for losing the plot and ranting. At least they tried to say the names properly, but was so out of place and unintentionally hilarious.
Correct so far with the 'ngn' part, still the 'a' is pronounced differently, so its rather 'Rung nick'.
I was more peeved by people pronouncing his name as "Ollie" rather than "Oley".
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...OK, back to Rangnick.
Thanks guys.
I'm sick of hearing Goldbridge and others say Ranyick or Ragnick. It's not as bad as that pundit who used to pronounce Ole's surname 'Solskeeyaara' to try and be cool and hip years ago.
I think I need to not sweat the small stuff so much
Don't watch his youtube channel, your life will improve I can vouch for it
There was something very telling in Viera's post-match interview saying he did not know how United would play. Over time opposition coaches will work out how to play against United's system and this is when the coach's ability to tweak formations and use best-suited players for those tweaks can be judged. It's simply too early to judge Rangnick.
I really think the club made the right decision in appointing him on an interim basis and then keeping him if successful or moving him upstairs on an advisory role. His experience and knowledge of the game will be invaluable over the years.
I really think the club made the right decision in appointing him on an interim basis and then keeping him if successful or moving him upstairs on an advisory role. His experience and knowledge of the game will be invaluable over the years.
It's actually closer to "Oleh" If you want to be pedantic.
I'm also somewhat concerned about how narrow United played on Sunday. There was very little width and whatever there was came from the full-backs. In all the years I have watched football and heard pundits and coaches was to use width to open up tight defences. The system used on Sunday was exactly the opposite. Although in control of the game I wonder this is the reason we hardly created any decent chances throughout the game?
The formation may differ but it isn't really that different from how Liverpool play, their full backs become their primary source of creativity when opponent sit deep, plus another option is utilizing quick combination from their attacking trio or in our case quartets( the use of third man runs), so unless our full backs can't keep it up I wouldn't be worried.
forvo.com is a very good site to checkup pronounciations.
here's rangnick's pronounciation: https://de.forvo.com/word/ralf_rangnick/
Yeah, it's not Oley, he's not Spanish.
From what I've heard it's actually even more like Ooleh.
The width will come primarily from the FBs who'll be very attacking I reckon. Likes of Sancho will invariably move both in and wide but yeah, primarily the FBs
Correct
More closer to Oola.
It's not a problem if you have good attacking wing-backs. Hopefully Ralf can coach ours to be better going forward (Dalot is showing serious promise right now it's just a shame he's not quicker).
The 4222 is optimised for quick counter attacking, not really for breaking down low blocks. However it should be fine when the FBs move forward to provide width, and especially Sancho can comfortably move wide, too, and support on a wing - the beauty of the double 10 is, that you can have one playmaker roaming through space, while you still have someone in that crucial 10 space.
My dream scenario would be: Rangnick as interim until summer. Then moves to position in the club. We appoint Ten Hag. Ten Hag, Rangnick and Murtrough are given carte blanche to fire, hire and restructure the club and squad as they see fit. Get rid of McKenna and Phelan.
Which game has Donny played in the holding role?
The thing is, I get when fans dont want McTominay, I dont want him to be a starter, we need an upgrade but to say Donny will be better?
There is 0 evidence of Donny being better in that position.
On the bolded, I've said that for ages and get pelters for it purely because people want to see Donny regardless of any reasons why he might not be featuring ahead of the likes of Scott.
If he doesn't improve the glaring issues we all know we've had at the base of midfield in the pivot he simply won't be getting many minutes there. I said this the minute we bought him, he was bought for rotation with Bruno because we bought him immediately after having ran Bruno physically into the ground playing every second of every game.
In the 4-2-2-2 we play with two attacking mids, so he will be more likely to get time on the pitch under Ralf in this system but imo what we are seeing is that Ralf agrees that VDB doesn't really improve the issues in the pivot... but lets see in the coming games if he changes his mind against 'lesser' opposition.
Still think all this analysis after he has had one home game vs Palace after one training session is a bit extreme.
Yep, under Ole I was calling for Donny to start in the role but a few times he did play there, we were open and it was a quick realisation that he can't play that role.
We are asking a goal scoring midfielder to play as a holder?
This formation actually allows Donny to play in one of the two 10 positions over the 6, yet some fans think its tailor made for him to play the 6?
See even with lesser opposition, I don't think Donny will play there. If you listen to Rangnick, the word he uses alot is control, I just cannot see having one 6 giving us control in this formation when the full backs are flying.
We need to stop the counter and Donny is not a player who will do that, however bad Scott is on the ball, he will play until we sign someone.
Thanks guys.
I'm sick of hearing Goldbridge and others say Ranyick or Ragnick. It's not as bad as that pundit who used to pronounce Ole's surname 'Solskeeyaara' to try and be cool and hip years ago.
I think I need to not sweat the small stuff so much
Heard Rang-nich yesterday too! That pronunciation of Solskjaer is one that always annoyed me too, along with the one who used to insist on saying Pob-vorschy.
Ooolaa more like
They say he rang Nick Fury.
For United 0, for Ajax he has actually played the position.
By the way McTominay isn't a holding midfielder either
Yeah exactly, I only see him really playing in one of the two attacking mid spots.
I think Donny got away with playing as a CM in the Dutch league and this is what makes many think he should be starting here ahead of Scott. Which if you read that last sentence back sort of answers the issue in itself (or it should.)
Big difference, huge, between Dutch league and Premier League and who you can get away with playing at the base of midfield.
People misread this opinion as though I don't like the player, I do, I just think people are asking for something that's not practical especially when we have had so many issues in that specific area of the pitch and we are trying to gain 'control' of matches, as you pointed out.
If he played the holding role, I guarantee you we would have seen him there.
Ajax had holder and Frenkie De Jong.
I wont lie, I am only speaking from CL games as I dont watch the dutch league.
McTominay is a better holder than Donny though.
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