ok but... that was the journo’s intelligence at the time maybe? In fact, the FC Juventus club shares are floating publicly in the Borsa market and therefore their accounting numbers are public... from those, several financial websites quote the actual payscale at the club... the particular table on here https://www.calcioefinanza.it/2019/09/10/stipendi-juventus-2019-2020-ronaldo-de-ligt/ also shows both the net and the gross, in €
Raiola: "I can say that it's over for Pogba at United"
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ok but... that was the journo’s intelligence at the time maybe? In fact, the FC Juventus club shares are floating publicly in the Borsa market and therefore their accounting numbers are public... from those, several financial websites quote the actual payscale at the club... the particular table on here https://www.calcioefinanza.it/2019/09/10/stipendi-juventus-2019-2020-ronaldo-de-ligt/ also shows both the net and the gross, in €
Pogba was performing before Mourinho lost the job, but this is going to be my last reply to you on this. I’ve seen you post in regards to Pogba and we’ll just never agree on anything, so be at peace
Not true. In fact, Pogba and Martial’s performances extended Mourinho’s stay here as they rescued results that reportedly would have had him sacked earlier.
The conversation is also moving to territory I don’t care about. The notion that Pogba was never integral to our team during his time here is just not true (and I simply replied to that with an example).
I honestly don’t understand why pogba hasn’t been frozen out of the team?
Why are we playing a player that openly wants to leave and keeping a player who plays pretty much same role and wants to play for the club, on the bench??
Why are we playing a player that openly wants to leave and keeping a player who plays pretty much same role and wants to play for the club, on the bench??
Honesty is the best policy
https://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/ras...ing-se-il-man-united-apre-al-prestito-1476712
According to Corriere della Sera, Juventus are ready to accept a Loan with obligation to buy deal for Pogba in January.
Most probably it's Raiola is feeding some shit stirring journo.
According to Corriere della Sera, Juventus are ready to accept a Loan with obligation to buy deal for Pogba in January.
Most probably it's Raiola is feeding some shit stirring journo.
this sentence rubbed me the wrong way. "Juventus are ready to accept". You are the ones that want the player, dickheads.I love how they phrase that as if it's all up to Juve - " ready to accept"? We're the ones with the sodding player under contract - I don't give a damn what Juve are ready to accept, unless they make a realistic* offer he's going to be here until at least the summer
*Not; "swap deal with some overpaid squad players we don't really fancy"?
I'm ready to accept a night with Scarlett Johansson too.
Because Pogba is better than those benchplayers.
They don't. That was the poster's faulty translation
What the article says is they would be ready to take him on loan with obligation to buy IF United are open to it
I'd only take two players from Juventus
De Ligt
Bentancur
Don't want any prima donas , mercenarys, last pay day candidates or players that don't quite fancy coming.
I don't think we l do a swap deal personally.
I'd take upwards of £60m
De Ligt
Bentancur
Don't want any prima donas , mercenarys, last pay day candidates or players that don't quite fancy coming.
I don't think we l do a swap deal personally.
I'd take upwards of £60m
DeLigt is probably the only player I d take. But a DeLigt-Maguire cb partnership would be a bit slow.
Betancur is good at shielding defence but he s not a playmaker
There’s no way we let pogba go in January, let alone in a season where we have a chance at the title.
they can sort a deal in the summer if they want.
It makes sense, keeping him out of the team for more than half a year won't help with selling him for decent money. It's exactly what the fat shitbag would want. From footballing perspective as well. One injury to Bruno and Pogba out of the team would mean any chances of chasing top spots evaporating.
It was disrespectful but right now it's simply not the moment to be petty with the current situation. Look at how things went for Arsenal with Arteta playing the tough guy and not registering Ozil. Their garbage midfield can't create anything. With Fred, Mctom and Donny (or whoever you switch in) we will struggle in the same way, it would be early last season all over again.
A loan midway through the season when we're pushing for the title for the first time in years would be fecking lunacy. I hope Woodward is ready to tell them to feck right off.
I have to agree with you. Unfortunately I can't see us shifting him in January - why Ole keeps playing him is a mystery but probably to give our other players a rest when we've got a chance at winning the league.
I do wish he would be played in the Bruno position though as I don't think he's very effective alongside Matic.
Cristiano for Pogba in January and we would win the league. He will want to stay at Juve for the UCL though.
He’s our second most creative player in the squad and we need him against the lesser teams to add more creativity in the team other than Bruno so he’s not going to leave in January, unless if the board is so confident they can bring in Grealish or Sancho in January.
Personally, I'd be happy with him going in January as long as we have a replacement ready. I think he could derail a title push in the coming months with the drama or his wantaway nonsense.
Sounds like a story from just one side, we'll sell him in the summer I'm sure.
That’s the point, we won’t get anybody in January good enough to replace him so it’ll wait until the summer.
a RB is far more important right now also.
If his scummy agent starts rocking the boat on the eve of vital games, would you be happy with that? I know I wouldn’t. I’d happily fly back to the UK and help him pack if that helps him on his way. He doesn’t want to be at United and it shows in his performances. His agent has been trying for the last 3 years to get him out and no takers, there‘s interest now as Juve think they’ll get him on the cheap or give us feckin Ramsey as a makeweight....
If we have any ambition in the PL this year then Pogba has to see this season out and I think he will accept that.
A deal offered in January, from most clubs, will likely be pants anyway.
A deal offered in January, from most clubs, will likely be pants anyway.
I don’t think we will hear a peep out of him now until the end of the season, clearly pogba told him to stop as he backtracked.
while I’m sure he will probably want to move on in the summer we won’t get any decent offers this January so whats the point?
unless they give us dybala or something similar he stays.
I'd agree but his agent undermined us on the evening of the most important game of the season which we ended up losing. Can you imagine him doing that again if we actually were in a title race?
I'd take De Ligt and Bentancur for Pogba next summer.
You would take another Raiola client ?
We don’t need Dybala, why swap a player who doesn’t want to be here for another 1? They do have a few players I’d say would improve our squad that they may wish to move on, but none of their free transfer high wages pick ups.
His turd agent will pipe up whenever he likes, he’s never backtracked on any of his comments.
I still consider myself a Pogba fan and I would have been delighted to see him be a success here. However, whilst I definitely don't think he's been awful for five years, I also don't think he's had a single 'very good' season.
He has mostly only been 'very good' for short spells and those have generally coincided with the whole team being in good form. Given his talent and the fee which we paid (I think it is relevant), I expected there to be more matches in which Pogba made a decisive contribution, even when the team wasn't playing particularly well.
Perhaps those expectations were too high (I only watched him a handful of times for Juventus), but in my opinion, his time here has been a disappointment.
Don't think so. In fact, I think it would be ideal for him to leave as a champion.
He wont move to Juve this window. These swaps are never attractive because Juve will use players they dont want anymore so whats the point?
Like those stories that had Madrid willing to include Bale in a Pogba deal. Im fecking sure they would have loved that.
Like those stories that had Madrid willing to include Bale in a Pogba deal. Im fecking sure they would have loved that.
To be honest I doubt he'd like to leave in January. We're in title race, even if unlikely to win it.
Those articles that did go around where the most idiotic pieces of reporting I've read in years. And yet newsagents make money out of that shit.
Tinfoil hat on I'm starting to think this whole Raiola conflict is artificial and used to drive sales and boost interest to Utd. It makes zero sense to publicly make those statements. I've started replaying goals to observe how Pogba reacts to his teammates. He really doesn't look like a guy who knows he's out of the door. Still I could be just reading into things.
I was hoping he'd eventually grow into a Zidane role. Oh well
I remember that, Bale ffs, they taking the piss. Didn’t Barca want to swap Mina & Gomes for him a few years before that too? Absolute jokers.
Give us de Ligt, I’ll take that.
A fair and objective assessment. Thank you.
They're more likely to persuade Ed that it would be a great idea for him to "bring Ramsey back home to Britain" or other such bollocks.
Something like Ramsey & Rugani for Pogba honestly wouldn’t surprise me. Ole seems obsessed with getting a Left footed CB & likes having British players in the side. Excellent deal for Juve, 2 players they don’t use off the books, first team star player on the books, whilst paying less wages. Seems like a terrible deal for us but given how badly we’re run I could see it happening.
Not really. He’s sidelined Jesse, Jones, Young and Smalling so easily for someone obsessed with having Brits.
Now we’ve been sucked into a title race, Pogba has a part to play. He does well when he comes in and offers us something. Re-evaluate in the summer
Pretty much my sentiments as well on Pogbas time here.
How many players has OGS bought since the last British player he bought?