Raheem Sterling

Pretty sure Raheem Sterling knew about opening his body like that already.
 
Pretty sure Raheem Sterling knew about opening his body like that already.

Knowing how to do it and knowing when to do it are two completely different things though, Pep really focuses on that part of the game alot.
 
Really rate Sterling, if he keeps up this rate of end product then he'll be amongst the finest wingers in Europe imo.
 
For some reason I feel like he hasn't progressed as I thought he would. I really thought he was gonna turn into a special player after watching some of his dribbles in 13/14. Now he's just "one of many".
 
For some reason I feel like he hasn't progressed as I thought he would. I really thought he was gonna turn into a special player after watching some of his dribbles in 13/14. Now he's just "one of many".

Tbf, he has the best numbers out of all the u23 players playing in his position, both this season and overall in their careers so far.

I precisely know why you feel like that though, he has his phases of inconsistency and couple that with his England performances it's safe to say he has a lot to improve. But I personally feel he's very underrated. Been our best player in the CL for last 3 seasons now (along with Kevin). Also, he's still only 22 which is mad.
 
Think he's more a product of working in a ridiculously productive and well oiled offence rather then him being a class player himself. Like I wouldn't say he's a good finisher, crosses or has a good shot on him at all (think Sane beats him in all of those areas), but he's been really productive because of the way they play and the positions they get themselves into. De Bruyne, Silva, Sane, Jesus/Aguero and then Sterling... Of course he'll be the least looked after one of that group, but he's still a decent player himself and it leads to him getting a lot of openings and quite a bit of tap ins. What he does give City is pace and width out on the right, and he does his job, but the stars of that team are definitely the other 4 attackers who's absences would impact them a lot more IMO.
 
Living proof that Pep is a dream to work with for young & ambitious attacking talents.
 
Think he's more a product of working in a ridiculously productive and well oiled offence rather then him being a class player himself. Like I wouldn't say he's a good finisher, crosses or has a good shot on him at all (think Sane beats him in all of those areas), but he's been really productive because of the way they play and the positions they get themselves into. De Bruyne, Silva, Sane, Jesus/Aguero and then Sterling... Of course he'll be the least looked after one of that group, but he's still a decent player himself and it leads to him getting a lot of openings and quite a bit of tap ins. What he does give City is pace and width out on the right, and he does his job, but the stars of that team are definitely the other 4 attackers who's absences would impact them a lot more IMO.

This is the same old argument that gets rolled out though - 'only a good player because he is in a good team' - the point is surely that he needs to be a good player to get into a good team.
 
This is the same old argument that gets rolled out though - 'only a good player because he is in a good team' - the point is surely that he needs to be a good player to get into a good team.
Teams and systems can make players look a lot better then what they are. It's the same argument because it's very true. Look at players for Dortmund under Klopp (or Tuchel). All but Lewandowski completely flopped when they went anywhere else. Look at Pedro for Barca under Pep and then the years after. In well oiled attacking teams like what Pep Guardiola manages wherever he goes with other world class players to distract, other players can become a lot more consistent and put up good stats. Pretty much Sterling in this case IMO. He's not as good as Sane, Aguero/Jesus, Silva or De Bruyne, but he's still a good player and gets in good positions (and plays as part of the front 3). Means he'll pad his stats a lot more then he would if he played in a different team with a bigger role or one more reliant on his own individual ability.

Of course, I'm not saying he's not a good player. He fits their system right now and adds pace and width. I don't think they'd really miss much of a beat if he was gone though. You would notice if Sane was gone, or De Bruyne, or Silva, but Sterling could be replaced with a lot of players IMO and he himself isn't really anything special.
 
This can only be said by someone who’s not watched Sterling at all this season, and has never seen Walcott. They’re worlds apart.

Sorry, I was wrong to use Walcott as a comparison as I rarely see him plays (nowadays), but I don't remember I missed a single City match bar one or two (one was vs Shakhtar Donetsk, I only watched the highlights).
Some posters above share the same opinion about Sterling and they say it better than I did.
 
How many crucial points has he won for his team this season?

Won the pen, seemingly scored the winner
 
How many crucial points has he won for his team this season?

Won the pen, seemingly scored the winner
He's so important for them.

Pep credits Arteta and him for working after training: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/nov/03/manchester-city-raheem-sterling-pep-guardiola

“Mikel Arteta [one of Guardiola’s assistant coaches] is working many hours and days after training specifically about the last action on the pitch – that control in the last moment to make the right movement in the final three or four metres. Raheem has wanted to stay there, to improve, to practise, to shoot at the goalkeepers. It’s part of the mentality he needs. He knows a striker has to score goals and he has to do that if he wants to achieve the next step.

“You won’t survive in the high-level teams in his position if you don’t score goals. Now the confidence is there and the club has new players coming in who can score goals. I think it’s mainly because he’s decided that he wants to score goals, that he can do that and that he is enjoying it.

“His final pass still has to improve – he has to do it better. He has got better but he can still do [even] better. But we can’t forget that he is [only] 22 years old. We demand a lot of these kind of players. But he is curious and he will improve. He’s young and he has time and we are there to help him.”
 
50m well fecking spent. These bastards always seem to get their attacking players right.
 
In many ways I wish he had gone to Arsenal with Sanchez going the other way,having said that its all quite irrelevant because we fully deserve to be 8 points behind City!!
 
Incredible transformation, looked like a bottler to me. He's become quite tenacious.
 
Incredible transformation, looked like a bottler to me. He's become quite tenacious.
He had that tenacity at Liverpool but struggled a bit at City at first. He's worked hard on his weaknesses and it has shown. De Bruyne, Jesus and Sane get the plaudits but I'd say Sterling has been just as crucial for them this season.
 
People can say his jammy all they want, but he creates his own luck with his superb movement and constant running off the ball.

Yet again bailed City out today.
 
How many crucial points has he won for his team this season?

Won the pen, seemingly scored the winner
Had a look at their close games and they almost all involve Sterling
City 1-1 Everton, Sterling with the equaliser
Bournemouth 1-2, Sterling with the incredibly late winner
West Brom 2-3 City, Sterling with the 3rd goal
Huddersfield 1-2 City, Sterling wins the penalty + scores the winner
City 2-1 Napoli, Sterling scores the opener
Napoli 2-4 City, Sterling scores the 4th
City 1-0 Feyenoord, Sterling scores the winner

It's players like him that gave them this 8 point gap. We don't have anyone that can turn a game around when we're not at our best.
 
50m well fecking spent. These bastards always seem to get their attacking players right.

It is. The shit this kid got from the sycophant dipper press was bordering on racism. Even the Nationals went after him too and all for leaving their precious club. I'm really glad for the lad that he's showing his true potential and sticking two fingers up at those tossers.
 
It is. The shit this kid got from the sycophant dipper press was bordering on racism. Even the Nationals went after him too and all for leaving their precious club. I'm really glad for the lad that he's showing his true potential and sticking two fingers up at those tossers.
Yeh. And some still didn't put him on England starting XI in favor of Rashford (understandably) or fecking Lallana. Extremely mindboggling. Sterling, Alli, and Kane are players that England should be focused on.
 
Yeah as if Liverpool and ManUtd do business with each other.
His contract was coming to an end. I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t be able to stop him if he waited a few months and signed a pre contract.
 
Yeh. And some still didn't put him on England starting XI in favor of Rashford (understandably) or fecking Lallana. Extremely mindboggling. Sterling, Alli, and Kane are players that England should be focused on.
Front four should be Sterling, Alli, Rashford and Kane but Southgate seems to be determined to go with a back three. England have a very good attack but struggling to get the best out of them.
 
It is. The shit this kid got from the sycophant dipper press was bordering on racism. Even the Nationals went after him too and all for leaving their precious club. I'm really glad for the lad that he's showing his true potential and sticking two fingers up at those tossers.
Yes that furor was just insane.

I’m really glad he’s doing well, sucks he’s playing for rival but I’m a fan of his.

Just looking back, the abuse was insane. If he continues on this trajectory, he’ll be a top player in no time, he’s got all the tools in his locker and is learning for one of the best managers in history who trusts him.
 
Remember when people thought Memphis was better than him.
 
How many times has he bailed them out this season, 3 times?
 
As many goals as Lukaku so far - both in the EPL and in all compets (including Rom's goal vs Real) and in much less minutes at that.

In the league: Sterling - 8 goals in 758 min vs Lukaku - 8 goals in 1170 min. Crazy.
 
How many times has he bailed them out this season, 3 times?
He has:

Scored winner in 1:0 win v Feyenoord home (88')
Scored equaliser in 1:1 draw v Everton home (82')
Scored winner in 2:1 win v Bournemouth away (90+7')
Scored deciding goal in 3:2 win v West Brom away (64')

plus winning the penalty and scoring the winner v Huddersfield Town away today.
 
He has:

Scored winner in 1:0 win v Feyenoord home (88')
Scored equaliser in 1:1 draw v Everton home (82')
Scored winner in 2:1 win v Bournemouth away (90+7')
Scored deciding goal in 3:2 win v West Brom away (64')

plus winning the penalty and scoring the winner v Huddersfield Town away today.

The DJ spinning armed bastard :mad:
 
Front four should be Sterling, Alli, Rashford and Kane but Southgate seems to be determined to go with a back three. England have a very good attack but struggling to get the best out of them.

In my opinion Alli's performances for England haven't been good enough to warrant being a certain starter. He's not even having that good a season for club but is still scoring goals so it glosses the performances but for the national team 2 goals in 20 caps is mediocre. If I were England manager I'd go 4-3-3 with Sterling and Rashford either side of Kane and a three in midfield. Don't care who those three are as I don't think there are stand-outs banging on the door.
 
50m well fecking spent. These bastards always seem to get their attacking players right.
Play a system that suits your players and you'll get the best out of them. Especially attacking wingers. Guardiola is a dream manager for pacey wide players as he knows how to get them in advanced positions very often, he overloads the attack, holds possession and gives them the platform to be 1 on 1 consistently or have that movement off the ball to be in position for scrappy tap in goals like Sterling has gotten pretty often this season. You can say they get their attacking players right, but then again, would Sterling be playing this well (and consistently) at any other team in the league? Would do well at Liverpool because they also play a very fast paced and overloading type attacking game, but he would probably struggle to play well consistently at a side like United just like our current attacking players are doing.
 
In my opinion Alli's performances for England haven't been good enough to warrant being a certain starter. He's not even having that good a season for club but is still scoring goals so it glosses the performances but for the national team 2 goals in 20 caps is mediocre. If I were England manager I'd go 4-3-3 with Sterling and Rashford either side of Kane and a three in midfield. Don't care who those three are as I don't think there are stand-outs banging on the door.

Agree with this. Alli is a luxury player kind of. Almost plays like a second striker or a little forward of a number 10. Works in some systems, but think you would be giving up the midfield if you played with that front 4. A front 3 of kane, Sterling, and rashford though would do very well I think.
 
I don't see why Sane is nearly unanimously considered better than him when 1. He has done less in his career performance wise and 2. Sterling is actually an all round better smarter footballer in my opinion.

Sane is pretty much near a perfect winger, but as a footballer, Sterling is a better passer, dribbler and has more of a nuance to become a more rounded player, he can come into the centre and playmake a little and get involved with the play, while the most of Sanes best work comes from the wings, being direct sidestepping opponents and swinging a cross in or a ferocious shot.
 
Guardiola improves players. Attacking players. Oh boy oh boy, what he could do with Martial and Rashford...