Rafael da Silva | 2010-14 Performances

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Sorry ghaliboy but Rafael is perfectly positioned as any decent football coach would tell you, he hasn't "lost" anyone, he's in a great position for a full back and he's done by a perfect ball.

Why do you lot ALWAYS need to pass blame, some goals are just fecking good goals, this was one. Perfect by Özil, Higuain and Ronaldo.

So, so true! Sometimes no one is to blame!
 
This is gif of the goal:

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It's clear he wasn't sleeping for the goal, he reacted milisecond after Ronaldo made the run, but he was never going to clear it even if he started running back before Ronaldo.

And for those who blame him for being milisecond late, just compare his reaction to Rio's(who is btw one of the best defenders in the world for years), he started running back before Rio did.
 
fixed Pete.

Rafael was excellent for 135 mins against Madrid, I'll forgive him 45.
He was utter shit for the away first half and had to be tucked inside to protect him from further damage and should have cost you the game (RvP stepped into the breach and fecked it over :lol:). He was poor at OT losing his man for the winner, getting caught dribbling in the box, and giving away a pen (got off).
 
Simple as that - Vidic was outpaced, that's what was to it.

It's like when Rio was criticised for being outpaced by Bale (!!!) - then he had lost it and was too slow. If that was Kompany running against Bale, he too would have been outpaced and the goal would have been a fact. Still, no one would argue that Kompany was now too slow, it would just be one of those things.

Rafael is still in that category where blame needs to be handed to him at every opportunity, even when he can do nothing about it!
 
@the gif

He switches off. You can see it clear as day, he has a quick look over his shoulder by then it is to late. It's literally 1 and a big meters between him and the 6 yard box but by then it is too late and he gives up. (Of course like I originally pointed out one of the best wingers in the world need that and only that, which is also insane).

If when he looks over his should he'd have started to hoof hard then he could have gotten there and done at least something. Ronaldo may have cut inside him and scored. The outcome would definitely have been 'Rafael did all he could.'

If you're going to blame Vidic then De Gea plays as much a part in not getting out to the ball off his near post quick enough. The ball is inside the 6 yard box.

There is blame every where but it can't just be absolved and wiped clean on any of the players. He switched off it was as clear as day. He'll also learn from it and it will make him a much better player.
 
He was utter shit for the away first half and had to be tucked inside to protect him from further damage and should have cost you the game (RvP stepped into the breach and fecked it over :lol:). He was poor at OT losing his man for the winner, getting caught dribbling in the box, and giving away a pen (got off).

He didn't lose his man for the winner - you are an idiot. Look at the GIF, he reacts very quickly, and if that was any other striker, it wouldn't have been a goal - I doubt even Messi would finish that (not quick enough).

He was brilliant at OT, and if you cannot see that, you are obviously on a WUM.
 
Lol I am going to humbly step out. I can take subjective view but downright refusing to admit something which is as plain as day (and a goal even resulted from it...?) is getting a bit much.

Even for the Caf.
 
This beggars belief:

- he lost his man for the goal
- he got nailed dribbling in the box (nearly another)
- he gave away a pen (not given - could be 3)

How in feckity feck's name is that 'brilliant'.
 
@the gif

He switches off. You can see it clear as day, he has a quick look over his shoulder by then it is to late. It's literally 1 and a big meters between him and the 6 yard box but by then it is too late and he gives up. (Of course like I originally pointed out one of the best wingers in the world need that and only that, which is also insane).

If when he looks over his should he'd have started to hoof hard then he could have gotten there and done at least something. Ronaldo may have cut inside him and scored. The outcome would definitely have been 'Rafael did all he could.'

If you're going to blame Vidic then De Gea plays as much a part in not getting out to the ball off his near post quick enough. The ball is inside the 6 yard box.

There is blame every where but it can't just be absolved and wiped clean on any of the players. He switched off it was as clear as day. He'll also learn from it and it will make him a much better player.

How do you compare his reaction to Rio's?
 
I struggle to think of a better right back in Europe than Rafael. No-one is perfect but this kid is going to be an absolute world beater.
 
I struggle to think of a better right back in Europe than Rafael. No-one is perfect but this kid is going to be an absolute world beater.
This beggars belief:

- he lost his man for the goal
- he got nailed dribbling in the box (nearly another)
- he gave away a pen (not given - could be 3)

How in feckity feck's name is that 'brilliant'.
 
First of all, it was a terrific ball in from Higuain and secondly, even Ronaldo would have struggled to reach it had he not slide in. I don't really think you can blame Rafael for it. The ball was always moving away from him, so he would have been second best no matter what.
 
If he slides in like Ronaldo, he scores an OG. If he tries to beat Ronaldo for pace to reach the ball, he loses.

The ball should never have been allowed in the box...which Higuain did twice in the game.
 
This beggars belief:

- he lost his man for the goal
- he got nailed dribbling in the box (nearly another)
- he gave away a pen (not given - could be 3)

How in feckity feck's name is that 'brilliant'.

So by giving away a pen that was not, being outpaced by Ronaldo (fastest player in Europe?) for the goal and lost the ball once inside his box (about on the corner of it) and then chasing back thus resulting in a throw in was it? Is that the best you can come up with. Serious wumming.
 
First of all, it was a terrific ball in from Higuain and secondly, even Ronaldo would have struggled to reach it had it not slide in. I don't really think you can blame Rafael for it. The ball was always moving away from him, so he would have been second best no matter what.

This, and the ball has 1.5 more yards to travel to Ronaldo.

Ghali, Pete and the rest couldn't buy a clue on this one.
 
Do you really think that was worth an answer? He jumped up and handled the ball off the line - pen and red card (just got lucky).
 
If when he looks over his should he'd have started to hoof hard then he could have gotten there and done at least something. Ronaldo may have cut inside him and scored. The outcome would definitely have been 'Rafael did all he could.'

Complete utter nonsense, he checks over his shoulder and reacts INSTANTLY to Ronaldo's run. If he doesn't check he has no idea where Ronaldo is headed, maybe he's running towards the middle.

You are honestly having a complete nightmare with this one.
 
Do you really think that was worth an answer? He jumped up and handled the ball off the line - pen and red card (just got lucky).

I dont think the hand ball was intentional. When you jump up to head your hands eventually come up as well to give you the extra boost. His hands were RIGHT NEXT to Higuain's head and as a result could not move out his hands in time because within a second the ball went from hitting his head to hitting Rafael's hand.
 
Will Rafael get into the team of the year, do y'all reckon?

Moving on, I think he will. He's been outstanding in the league. It's not every day you come up against a player of Ronaldo or Messi's calibre and when you can shoot down what comes into your path it certainly doesn't make you less of a player.

Love him to bits and he will be some player in the next 6 or 7 years.
 
I dont think the hand ball was intentional. When you jump up to head your hands eventually come up as well to give you the extra boost. His hands were RIGHT NEXT to Higuain's head and as a result could not move out his hands in time because within a second the ball went from hitting his head to hitting Rafael's hand.

No chance was it intentional and it WAS a certain goal, I don't think you can say anything other than well done there, he had no choice but to do everything to get in the way of that ball, if anything he's a little unlucky that it hits the top of his arm.

I know I'd be patting my RB on the back if he stopped a certain goal like that, no doubt.
 
Why wasn't he heading the fecking ball instead of handling the header? Answer: cos he's a shortarse useless, out of position cnut of a defender who should be playing for Norwich on the wing

He's a better player than 99% of your squad, hmmmm.... so what does that say about your squad and Norwich City?

Rafael will be in the TOYT this season, you won't have a single player in it. :lol:

I answered why above, he had no idea about the arm, he just does everything to get his body in the way and stop a certain goal, and he succeeds.
 
I dont think the hand ball was intentional. When you jump up to head your hands eventually come up as well to give you the extra boost. His hands were RIGHT NEXT to Higuain's head and as a result could not move out his hands in time because within a second the ball went from hitting his head to hitting Rafael's hand.

I though it was instinctive. He didn't set out to put his hand up to block it but I thought it was a defensive 'get everything up there' instinct that paid off for him.

The old 'nod over your raised arm' that you sometimes see in an aerial challenge between two players.
 
Why wasn't he heading the fecking ball instead of handling the header?Answer: cos he's a shortarse useless, out of position cnut of a defender who should be playing for Norwich on the wing

Jeez Pete when ever I think of giving you the benefit of the doubt, you always say something that is mind boggling. I know you are a WUM and you trying to take it to the next level of wummery but its getting a little tiring.
 
I though it was instinctive. He didn't set out to put his hand up to block it but I thought it was a defensive 'get everything up there' instinct that paid off for him.

The old 'nod over your raised arm' that you sometimes see in an aerial challenge between two players.

You certainly bought a clue on this one ;)

Bang on the money ghali. But we all know Pete is just playing silly beggars on this point.
 
I though it was instinctive. He didn't set out to put his hand up to block it but I thought it was a defensive 'get everything up there' instinct that paid off for him.

The old 'nod over your raised arm' that you sometimes see in an aerial challenge between two players.

Exactly, so you cant give him a red card for that.
 
You certainly bought a clue on this one ;)

:lol::lol: feck off you cretin. It's as clear as day he lost his man :D
I'm a stubborn cnut!

As for pete, I don't really know why people respond to it. I can't work out what is more pathetic, pete himself or responding to his wums with tattered shite like 'HUR DUR IZ DA ARSENAL UZGOOD BRO?' and 'BETTA DAN DA WHOL RSNL ELVN'.

If it's tiring and tedious just ignore it I say.

Exactly, so you cant give him a red card for that.

There'd be no claim of injustice to be had (imo) if he had have been marched.
 
As for pete, I don't really know why people respond to it. I can't work out what is more pathetic, pete himself or responding to his wums with tattered shite like 'HUR DUR IZ DA ARSENAL UZGOOD BRO?' and 'BETTA DAN DA WHOL RSNL ELVN'.

wum for a wum as they say :p

Thing is, more often than not, wumming responses to Pete are more often than not factual, unlike Pete's wums. :D

Personally I think Pete's good for a laugh in the Rafael thread, as long as people realise why he's here.
 
Pete should be banned from this thread. As we've seen with Bale once he has an opinion on a player it isn't changing despite all the evidence pointing to the contrary.
 
Yet no one can refute the fact that there were 3 major feck ups by the golden boy (we won't even talk about the 1st leg clusterfeck for shame).
 
Your like a RAWKite tallying up all the decisions throughout the game that have gone our way, completely blind.
 
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