Rafa Benitez | Sacked (Fachts)
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Get real. Benitez is one of the best football coaches in Europe and regarded as such for good reason. Outside of the real elite he'd have his pick of more or less any job available.
I think he'd be a great choice for England if he was interested.
The England job would be perfect for him.
Have to agree. For all the FSW cr4p he's a top manager.
He clears loves managing too. He's not precious about where he manages and even though he's managed at the absolute highest level (to a point) he doesn't consider any role 'Beneath him'. There's a lot to be said for that.
He speaks well, knows English culture and the players we have available. he plays a brand of football that would work. I'd love to see him as England manager. Sticks out like a sore thumb amongst all other candidates.
As weird as this might sound, I actually admire him for how he stand up against Ferguson during his era. How many managers or even referees dare to do that?
I kind of don't understand what is happening. I thought everyone ridiculed him at the first chance and disliked him, what happened to the big change of mood?
I kind of don't understand what is happening. I thought everyone ridiculed him at the first chance and disliked him, what happened to the big change of mood?
I think it's always been fun to take the P or dislike him for being a rival.
I don't think it's ever been disputed that he's in that top tier of managers. He's won things everywhere he's been. Would immediately be the best manager that England have ever had.
I can see him taking England, if everyone stays healthy, to at least the Semis in his first tournament
He'll have the gravitas to drop Rooney too if he continues to stink up the place
He'll have the gravitas to drop Rooney too if he continues to stink up the place
3:1 win over mid-table Brentford today.
Am actually looking forward to having this guy back in the Premier League.
Quality manager.
Quality manager.
Bossing the league. Looking on course to beating Reading's record tally of 106 as well.
Now they should keep him if they wanted to do something well in the future, not changing another manager again.
Yep looking very good, gave Leeds a bit of a brushing today.
As an aside do you remember when Rob Green was England's number one? Holy God.
Better than Capello?
I'm assuming you're going on reputation before they got the job, by the way you worded that?
Capello? You mean Alf Ramsey, right?
I don't know much about Alf Ramsey's achievements before he became England manager.
Capello has had the better career but by the time he took over England (let alone Russia) I got the impression he was just topping up his pension. Benitez is still hungry (no pun...) and he at least has a strong connection with English football. Either way, he is hugely over-qualified for the Championship and I think he would make a good England manager.
Dwight Gayle is banging them in for them
He took Ipswich from Division 3 to Division 1 and won the league as a promoted team in 1962.
13 goals in his last 13 games for Gayle, and 7 goals in 6 games (including internationals) for Mitrovic.
Overjoyed with the season so far and the man himself is class. Weird patch at the start but it's all seemed to come together.
Shame he stayed on and we didn't go after a Proper Football Man like the pundits wanted us to.
Shame he stayed on and we didn't go after a Proper Football Man like the pundits wanted us to.
Hmmmm.... Ultimately, he's in the same conversation as Capello. I wouldn't argue if someone or even the majority put Capello above Rafa. But Capello had his best time what, two decades ago? He assembled maybe one of the best sides of all time (Their unbeaten season was astonishing) and I'm not going to talk it down to try and engineer an idea. Amazing manager. But not head and shoulders above Rafa.
The thing I love about Rafa is he seems to just LOVE managing football teams. I'm sure he'd love to only ever manage Real, Barca, Bayern etc but he doesn't seem to be precious about it. There's something really likeable about that. I have a Spanish friend that tells me he's viewed as kind of a Spanish Bobby Robson back there. I can see it. His humour sometimes falls flat in a second language I guess.
I'd argue Sacchi was the man behind that great Milan side. Having said that, Capello had a better career than Rafa overall. He's won 5 Serie A titles (7 if it hadn't been for Calciopoli), 2 La Liga titles and a CL title while also losing two other finals. When the FA appointed him in 2007 he had just won La Liga with Real Madrid a few months before, so he wasn't past it at that point, but if there's a job that can ruin a career it's the England managers job. The guy who actually manage to win something with England again should be knighted, have a couple of statues, a few roads named after him and some other things.
Typical England to celebrate too early.
Anyone he gives 96,000 to the HJC is a legend. Even a manc would have to agree.
You always sensed that he never had the respect of the top players and even fans, the egos at that level, compared to a Mourinho or an Ancelotti, but at a level of clubs below that he is an excellent manager, or at least that is the level where he can be most effective. At Valencia and Liverpool, he was never in charge of the best squads, but the profile of the players bought into him, bar Gerrard to a certain extent.
With Newcastle the squad and fans are buying into whatever he has to offer, and although the squad is basically doing exactly what it should be doing, he deserves a certain amount of credit for that, but it's not a huge achievement in the grand scheme of things.
However, the building blocks seem to be being put in place to create an environment where I think he thrives in, so it will be very interesting to see what he can do in the next couple of years assuming they go back up, and to see if he can propel himself up to a higher 'tier' in terms of managers.
With Newcastle the squad and fans are buying into whatever he has to offer, and although the squad is basically doing exactly what it should be doing, he deserves a certain amount of credit for that, but it's not a huge achievement in the grand scheme of things.
However, the building blocks seem to be being put in place to create an environment where I think he thrives in, so it will be very interesting to see what he can do in the next couple of years assuming they go back up, and to see if he can propel himself up to a higher 'tier' in terms of managers.
Hilarious game last night.
Dwight Gayle has found his level it seems. 16 in 16.
Credit where it's due, bouncing straight back up from the Championship is no mean feat.
Newcastle are far too big for the Championship anyway, far play to Rafa not thinking he was too big for the championship too.
Watching it now. Will be great to have Newcastle and FSW back in the PL.
Reckon he and Mourinho will go at it fairly quickly.
Reckon he and Mourinho will go at it fairly quickly.
Ashley will Ashley and he'll have walked come September. Rumour has it he was tempted in January.
Jonjo has been magnificent for them. Weird.
Do not talk trash about that sweet and magnificent man.. He is an angel, our Dwight is..
@ the titleBenitez back to Liverpool, Klopp to Newcastle
I bet most scousers would love that. Anyway, well done on promotion, you fat wanker.
I bet most scousers would love that. Anyway, well done on promotion, you fat wanker.
He's built a good squad there, combined with the quality he inherited.
Convincing Richie, Diamé and Clark to drop down a level proves he has decent finances behind him.
Ayoze, Shelvey, Mitrović and Colback were always PL quality.