Queen Elizabeth II | 1926-2022 | Rest in Peace

Our tax money pays for them. They are living a lavish lifestyle, private school for their kids and even used our money to protect her nonce of a son.

You having a better lifestyle than me doesn't compare to the royal family and me because I don't have to give you money to lord over me

I've taken tax payers money at times in my life. I've no idea how or if she used tax payers money to fund Andrew' defence, I wasn't aware it was on public record. Also I didn't state I had a better lifestyle than you, I was referring to the children you were on about, it's very sad that they're struggling, but it's still on who the people elected.
 
The Queen’s death is a precarious moment for some of Britain’s wider Commonwealth realm, 14 countries of which recognise the monarch as their head of state. In many cases their constitutions state that the Queen, specifically, is the head of state. In these countries, constitutions will need to be amended to refer to her successor. In countries such as Jamaica, where there is a strong republican movement, and Belize, these constitutional changes will also require a referendum, according to Commonwealth experts. This is expected to bring about a moment of political peril for the new monarch, who, after Barbados became a republic in 2021, could face the loss of another prominent part of the Caribbean Commonwealth.

Questions are also likely to arise in countries such as Papua New Guinea, Solomon Islands, Tuvalu, Antigua and Barbuda, the Bahamas, Grenada, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia and Saint Vincent and the Grenadines over whether the new monarch could lawfully appoint a governor general, if the relevant country’s constitution has not been changed to refer to the King, and continues to refer to the Queen as head of state.

The Queen’s name is also stitched into myriad other laws that will require redrafting, neither an easy nor a cheap process, especially for smaller countries that do not employ their own legislative drafters.

Among the constitutional monarchies, Australia, Canada and New Zealand have measures in place so the new monarch automatically becomes head of state.

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Nicked from The Guardian.

Those referendums will be interesting!
 
Those people being better off comes from you and everyone else paying them to be for no service to the public. I suppose this delusion of it being okay is the result of years of indoctrination :D
No service to the public? I wonder how you've come to that conclusion.
 
The Queen’s death is a precarious moment for some of Britain’s wider Commonwealth realm, 14 countries of which recognise the monarch as their head of state. In many cases their constitutions state that the Queen, specifically, is the head of state. In these countries, constitutions will need to be amended to refer to her successor. In countries such as Jamaica, where there is a strong republican movement, and Belize, these constitutional changes will also require a referendum, according to Commonwealth experts. This is expected to bring about a moment of political peril for the new monarch, who, after Barbados became a republic in 2021, could face the loss of another prominent part of the Caribbean Commonwealth.

Questions are also likely to arise in countries such as Papua New Guinea, Solomon Islands, Tuvalu, Antigua and Barbuda, the Bahamas, Grenada, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia and Saint Vincent and the Grenadines over whether the new monarch could lawfully appoint a governor general, if the relevant country’s constitution has not been changed to refer to the King, and continues to refer to the Queen as head of state.

The Queen’s name is also stitched into myriad other laws that will require redrafting, neither an easy nor a cheap process, especially for smaller countries that do not employ their own legislative drafters.

Among the constitutional monarchies, Australia, Canada and New Zealand have measures in place so the new monarch automatically becomes head of state.

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Nicked from The Guardian.

Those referendums will be interesting!
It is an interesting situation. I think I've read a few articles in recent years where the Palace has been wining and dining reps from the Commonwealth countries. Whilst the gatherings have all had some official reason, I think its largely been understood that the unofficial reason is to sound these countries out about Charles and try and persuade them to adopt him as their Head of State when the time comes.
 
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I can't believe people would willing sing 'long to reign over us' in a democratic country.
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The monarch has no power and it’s just a song from the 1750s. Do you think the French think about their anthem in literal terms? ”May an impure blood water our furrrows”.
 
The monarch has no power and it’s just a song from the 1750s. Do you think the French think about their anthem in literal terms? ”May an impure blood water our furrrows”.
I don't know if you are aware but you are incorrect in as much as the Queen has always had the opportunity to change Acts of Parliament in favour of herself and family, particularly in ensuring new Tax adjustments are made in her favour and exempted. That sort of thing for starters is 'real power' over the serfs.
 
I’m personally enjoying how upsetting it is for many of y’all.

Knock yourself out, we did when you all got so upset after you elected Trump as head of state so its only fair.

Do you think you will be able to arrest him for selling state secrets before or after you re-elect him President?
 
I’m personally enjoying how upsetting it is for many of y’all.
@Niall @Damien

Please, this cannot be allowed here. For gods sake someone has passed away, this is not right mods. I know this poster has a longstanding history here, but this is not right. I can't be the only one that thinks this?
 
I'm no royalist, but the news did move me and made me think for a while, and I feel I respect the person who has gone, even if not the role. Then after half an hour I turned off the BBC and put the Xbox on because I didn't want to have the maudlin newscaster delivering eulogy after eulogy in soporific succession.

What I can't understand is why things need to grind to a halt? I'm not sure what cancelling sports events does except gives people less avenues to try and live bits of life. I appreciate some people are all in on this for whatever reason, but there's going to be wall-to-wall grief everywhere now and after a bereavement in my partner's family this week, the last thing I want it to do is be drowned in either a collective grief or, even worse, manufactured grief.
 
Not sure where I stand on it. I was born in England to irish parents and have alot of family members that couldn't stand the monarchy. My dad's father and my mother however loved the queen and everything she stood for and despite myself growing up so liberal i can't help but admire the queen.
 
Knock yourself out, we did when you all got so upset after you elected Trump as head of state so its only fair.

Do you think you will be able to arrest him for selling state secrets before or after you re-elect him President?
I’m enjoying watching the angsty folks who are upset that people are honoring the queen. Longest reigning monarch in UK history, of course folks are gonna come out and experience that kind of historical event.
 
I’m personally enjoying how upsetting it is for many of y’all.

See I am no royalist, in fact far from it, but to ignore how momentous this moment is ridiculous

She has been alive for as long as the cast majority of the world can remember. She is synonymous with the UK and in general anything Royal - she is the first Royal people think of from any country

She has, as far as people are concerned, been a great Queen in terms of trying to connect with people and kept with the times. She is all most people know so it's weird to think we no longer have the Queen to look to but Charles who has been mocked and had controversy attached to his name

A comment I saw elsewhere described her perfectly, she is essentially a spiritual grandmother. Whether we liked her or not, or even realised it, there was something comforting about her

Edit: I may missed the context if you are saying it's upsetting for people who are 'happy' she is dead
 
See I am no royalist, in fact far from it, but to ignore how momentous this moment is ridiculous

She has been alive for as long as the cast majority of the world can remember. She is synonymous with the UK and in general anything Royal - she is the first Royal people think of from any country

She has, as far as people are concerned, been a great Queen in terms of trying to connect with people and kept with the times. She is all most people know so it's weird to think we no longer have the Queen to look to but Charles who has been mocked and had controversy attached to his name

A comment I saw elsewhere described her perfectly, she is essentially a spiritual grandmother. Whether we liked her or not, or even realised it, there was something comforting about her

Edit: I may missed the context if you are saying it's upsetting for people who are 'happy' she is dead
This sounds like a really 'heat of the moment' emotional response. Once the media frenzy is over people will get on with their lives like nothings changed.
 
The death of the queen for most of the population is what Fergie retiring from United was for us United fans.

We'd only ever known him as our manager - he WAS the job. And he was also very successful, similarly to how Elizabeth is perceived domestically.

Having said all that, the BBC and other media will blow this way out of proportion for no reason whatsoever than to satisfy their lust for drama (meaning money for the private channels).
 
Not sure where I stand on it. I was born in England to irish parents and have alot of family members that couldn't stand the monarchy. My dad's father and my mother however loved the queen and everything she stood for and despite myself growing up so liberal i can't help but admire the queen.

In my teens I didn't understand the Monarchy in full but as I got older I appreciated everything about the monarchy for me the Queen literally gave her life for public service.

For 70 years as sovereign she wasn't allowed to show emotion and had to literally embody being stoic and going to literally daily state visits, read letters daily for hours, in servitude.

Address an entire nation, consider commonwealth, politics. I think her life was not easy and of course I have huge respect for what she did, feels weird she won't be there now but after Philip and after her starting to look very frail it was a matter of time.

She of course will be remembered by millions and for me it's her and David Attenborough I didn't want to lose because I think for Britain they are icons and I will always remember today, as I did 9/11 as major events in my lifetime.

Very sad.
 
I’m enjoying watching the angsty folks who are upset that people are honoring the queen. Longest reigning monarch in UK history, of course folks are gonna come out and experience that kind of historical event.

Of course you're a closet royalist, your state is named after King Charles. I bet your ancestors were Loyalists too.
 
I’m enjoying watching the angsty folks who are upset that people are honoring the queen. Longest reigning monarch in UK history, of course folks are gonna come out and experience that kind of historical event.

Ah, I see...

This is awkward now because I don't know whether it is still Ok to enjoy the Trump nonsense.