Queen Elizabeth II | 1926-2022 | Rest in Peace

We're not cancelling the caf when it happens, right?
 
Adam-Utd said:
That's what I figured, but I wasn't sure if songs change etc. It just all seems a bit surreal doesn't it.
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Well the original was for King George (insert number) so yeah it'll go back to gracious King.
 
BBC dudes wearing navy ties. Maybe she ain’t dead yet.
 
The way the newsreader (can’t remember his name) says ‘as you can see the heavens have opened’…and just hesitated for a second thinking ‘terrible turn of phrase you cnut’
 
neverdie said:
they're acting as if the world has ended. a 96 year old woman has died. historically important. ok. my suspicion that this would resemble stalin levels of insanity and hysteria appears to have been on point.

the levels of indoctrination are impressive. when stalin died everyone in the west said "look at how they all pretend to care about him because they're afraid of what happens if they don't mourn". explain this one to me, then. none of you knew this woman. you saw her on television. maybe you met her once at a mass meet and greet. it's madness.
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I’m not mourning or bothered if others do/don’t (and I don’t know why people get so upset about others being upset.. it’s all a personal thing?)

For me though, it’s hard not to see this as some point of note in my lifetime, a historical moment. Again, I won’t mourn her (even though I did actually shake her hand once at a “mass meet and greet”), but I get why media make it a big thing .. just wish we had better presenters who weren’t so hand wringing.
 
neverdie said:
they're acting as if the world has ended. a 96 year old woman has died. historically important. ok. my suspicion that this would resemble stalin levels of insanity and hysteria appears to have been on point.

the levels of indoctrination are impressive. when stalin died everyone in the west said "look at how they all pretend to care about him because they're afraid of what happens if they don't mourn". explain this one to me, then. none of you knew this woman. you saw her on television. maybe you met her once at a mass meet and greet. it's madness.
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She’s pretty much the most famous person in the world and has been so for 70 years.

Add to that the British culture/tradition around that (yes we have one) and the fact she is the head of state of 15 different countries.
 
couldnt have happened at a worse time. 4 in a row. Cant let that momentum stop
 
neverdie said:
they're acting as if the world has ended. a 96 year old woman has died. historically important. ok. my suspicion that this would resemble stalin levels of insanity and hysteria appears to have been on point.

the levels of indoctrination are impressive. when stalin died everyone in the west said "look at how they all pretend to care about him because they're afraid of what happens if they don't mourn". explain this one to me, then. none of you knew this woman. you saw her on television. maybe you met her once at a mass meet and greet. it's madness.
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New to celebrity frenzy? It almost never makes sense.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Fecking hell. You guys…
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Be lucky if it's just this weekend's PL fixtures. The actual funeral will likely fall on the next weekend and aside from anything else I wonder how well the police would actually be able to manage a weekend of PL fixtures and the Queens's funeral at the same time.
 
hobbers said:
The Death of Stalin film did pop in my head when thinking about all the royals turning up around her deathbed.
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https://mubi.com/films/state-funeral

Starting with images of Soviet citizens learning of Stalin’s sudden death and ending with the dictator’s internment in Lenin’s tomb, “State Funeral” unfolds like a silent pageant, the only narration provided by propagandistic eulogies over loudspeakers. (Think of Armando Iannucci’s “The Death of Stalin” without the antic wit.) Using images taken by 200 camera operators stationed throughout the far-flung Soviet republic, Loznitsa creates a portrait that is simultaneously dreamlike and immediate, poetic and polemical, with the Soviet Union’s multitude of ethnic communities expressing state-approved grief in weird lockstep. It’s easy to dismiss it all — the copious tears, the never-ending queues, the ever-larger wreaths being carefully placed and preened over — as so much political theater. This is the man, as Loznitsa’s postscript reminds us, who exterminated millions of Soviet citizens. But he’s also the man who saw the USSR emerge victorious from the ravages of World War II. Without subtitles, and only the fascinating tableau of faces to go by, it’s hard to know what’s in the hearts and minds of “State Funeral’s” subjects. Like 2010’s “The Autobiography of Nicolai Ceaucescu,” Loznitsa’s film stands as a work of archival ambition and psychological ambiguity, as much about obedience and cultish denial as it is a visually stunning time capsule (the black-and-white and color images have been dazzlingly restored). It’s not every day one can witness mythmaking in real time.
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hobbers said:
The Death of Stalin film did pop in my head when thinking about all the royals turning up around her deathbed.

Racing each other in through the gates of Balmoral in their Range Rovers.
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I’m picturing the will reading scene from Hotel Budapest and Charles going mental when he finds out she’s left everything to the head butler at Balmoral.
 
BeforeKeanetherewasRobson said:
I’m not mourning or bothered if others do/don’t (and I don’t know why people get so upset about others being upset.. it’s all a personal thing?)

For me though, it’s hard not to see this as some point of note in my lifetime, a historical moment. Again, I won’t mourn her (even though I did actually shake her hand once at a “mass meet and greet”), but I get why media make it a big thing .. just wish we had better presenters who weren’t so hand wringing.
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Yeah agree. This is a hugely historic moment if she’s died. She’s the second longest reigning monarch ever and is deeply ingrained in British culture and tourism etc alongside being monarch for many other nations. Her passing is not only massive British news but world news.

Does this impact/upset me? No. It’s poignant, yes. I often think that those that just make fun of the media frenzy around these things just let their hatred of monarchy to blind them from the significance that today could hold.
 
96 year old woman who was once the richest woman in the world lives 2 decades past the average life expectancy.

She's had a cracking life, but noone can complain that it's her time to go. It'd be sad if she was 36 and it was before her time, but it's not. She's had a great life, and she's probably knackered herself and happy with everything she's accomplished.
 
Can't we just globally agree to do away with all monarchies once the active monarch dies. Even in The Netherlands this is all over the news. Old woman dying, so sad.
 
Zarlak said:
96 year old woman who was once the richest woman in the world lives 2 decades past the average life expectancy.

She's had a cracking life, but noone can complain that it's her time to go. It'd be sad if she was 36 and it was before her time, but it's not. She's had a great life, and she's probably knackered herself and happy with everything she's accomplished.
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There'll be big changes in the monarchy I think after she goes I think, sad but I expected her to have a few more years like the queen mother.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Fecking hell. You guys…
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I'm not sure if you're saying that to me directly or the English in general, i'm just telling you what's likely to happen.

They've pretty much hinted at it already that sporting events and such won't be going ahead.

Clearly you dislike the Queen and people have their reasons, but in England it's a pretty big deal.

Whether we like it or not, I can't see the PL being on this weekend or maybe even next.
 
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