At PSG fans, which one hurts the most between the Barca remontada and losing against this depleted United 
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The Barca one hurt a lot, now I am vaccinated. This didn't even feel worse than Guingamp.At PSG fans, which one hurts the most between the Barca remontada and losing against this depleted United
A serial bottler club.
They'll never win the Champions League.
Money can get you Neymar and Mbappe, but it can't get you character.
They'll never win the Champions League.
Money can get you Neymar and Mbappe, but it can't get you character.
Even before the penalty they were losing at home and hardly troubled our defense in second half.
Somehow I doubt that
Just check this out, the investments increase in time and their performances have gotten worse.
PSGs in game management was abysmal. As soon as it got to 1-1 the match should have been over. Even when we took the lead all PSG had to do was keep the ball.
For me, as a United fan, last night will be hard to top for all the right reasons. Were I a PSG fan I'd feel the same in reverse. Solskjaer brought on Chong and Greenwood, two kids, to go for the game. At that point an experienced team just keeps the ball and runs down the clock. Instead PSG continued to attack and offer us opportunities to transition.
PSG can cry about the penalty (which was correctly awarded). However, the only ones the PSG fans should blame for the fact they were facing an attack in stoppage time are their own players. If they had their heads screwed on the ball would have spent stoppage time by our corner flag.
For me, as a United fan, last night will be hard to top for all the right reasons. Were I a PSG fan I'd feel the same in reverse. Solskjaer brought on Chong and Greenwood, two kids, to go for the game. At that point an experienced team just keeps the ball and runs down the clock. Instead PSG continued to attack and offer us opportunities to transition.
PSG can cry about the penalty (which was correctly awarded). However, the only ones the PSG fans should blame for the fact they were facing an attack in stoppage time are their own players. If they had their heads screwed on the ball would have spent stoppage time by our corner flag.
The only reason they had a two-goal lead to begin with was because Kimpembe, who scored their opener, got away with a blatant red card.
If we were against ten men like we should have been then it's a very different tie. They can't complain at all (even more so because the penalty decision was correct).
Their league structure leaves them mentally unprepared for the hard graft of Europe.
This. So much this.
The best long term for them is for Qatar to sell them to an owner that will bet on a long term strategy, based on acquiring the best French talent. Strengthen your identity and move away from the frenzied marketing strategy they have now.
I hope we go for Verratti hes such a good player
Unless if They hire Brendan, which is too late now. He'd die for Leicester.
Said all along, whether it was us or whoever they faced in the next stage, they were due their annual knockout stage spanking. It's nothing to do with bottle. They're just not as good as they're talked up to be.
Verratti, Mbappe, Di Maria and Silva are good. The rest are nothing special.
I'd love Verratti here. He was their entire midfield for most of both legs.
Verratti, Mbappe, Di Maria and Silva are good. The rest are nothing special.
I'd love Verratti here. He was their entire midfield for most of both legs.
That was a big blow for their project. Can see them struggling to attract great players and keep their current best players. After the Barca 6:1 fiasco, that was brutal.
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Possibly, although money somewhat talk.
Personally if I was a top player who could decide where to go I would not want to play in a league for a club that dominate to the extent PSG does because there is less to win. I would much rather play for a club where there are several trophies that would feel important to win such as in Spain and England.
Mainly this, too big difference in standard, and Galactico teams almost never work.
Most successful sides in Europe have a core of home grown players plus one or two big signings. Just spending unlimited money doesn't work well.
I don't give a shit!
They're a plastic club that wins the league because of the money invested.feck em!
Monaco,Lyon,Bordeaux.. respect!
Are we the toast of France now? I imagine these guys are despised there?
I hope they aren't going to get revenge by buying Martial or Pogba
I think there is probably about right, the players will be fresher than most teams but they're just not used to playing high intensity games against decent oppo week in week out.
From an objective point of view the first goal they conceded was absolutely criminal and set the tone early. You can’t concede a goal like that in such circumstances. Especially after the Ajax game the night before.
Absolutely hilarious. Take your oil money and do one.
Their pissing around with possession hurt them. United were always going to have moments, all that dancing about achieved was limit the amount of times they moved around our back 4 (as soon as we sorted rightback out)
It went from a 90 minute game to maybe half that.
It went from a 90 minute game to maybe half that.
Sure mate
I think you've misunderstood his point. He's not devaluing United's win but underlining the psychological baggage that already weighs heavily in any knockout CL tie since. That's not very hard to understand given the situation we were in months ago. I was laughing at how bad we were in that tragic last game against Liverpool. It didn't hurt the same way for obvious reasons.
Still hard to believe. After all the investment they've made to not repeat the 1-6, you'd expect to get improvement instead of creating the same terrible experience again.
Was talking to a Lille fan who supported them as they were French! It happens here in Ireland too where I’d support the best irish club teams in Europe but in the truly big leagues I’d imagine most fans would hope their domestic rivals lose in Europe!
Oh absolutely. I think after a while you just kind of settle into that bizarre reality though. That's where I was at by the Liverpool fiasco.
I wonder if there's ever been a similar story to PSG's recent European struggles. Pretty sure it's unique in CL times. I don't agree with anyone that says it's evidence they're good not good enough. It is something more. Chiellini's cutting analysis of spurs, that kind of mystical component of tradition, really does play a role IMO. Hard to know why though!
Real Madrid post Del Bosque and pre Mourinho.
It's not Tottenham, Arsenal post Highsbury kind of mentality, but rather a team that players have too much power and play as individuals, and not for anyone: the shirt, the fan, the coach...
Clearly this team doesn't lack winner or experience. Just the discipline.
Good call! Although I don't think their period lasted quite as long. Immediately post del Bosque I think they were very similar but by the time the likes of Wanderlei Luxemburgo (or whatever his name is) came in, they weren't a very impressive group of individuals never mind team. A level below PSG in my book. Or do you think I'm overrating them?
By the time Mourinho came around they were much stronger. I think he deserves a lot of credit for raising their level as a team though.
Agree about the discipline too. That's probably the most tangible thing you can point to.
The one sided league doesn’t help them.
Look at Bayern. They reached two finals when they were competing with Klopps Dortmund. Once they started signing Dortmund’s best players and weakening them, it turned the league into a one horse race and it didn’t help Pep at all. When Bayern won it in 01 they won the league also by one point. Stronger and more competitive league helps you.
Look at Bayern. They reached two finals when they were competing with Klopps Dortmund. Once they started signing Dortmund’s best players and weakening them, it turned the league into a one horse race and it didn’t help Pep at all. When Bayern won it in 01 they won the league also by one point. Stronger and more competitive league helps you.
I swear when it was 1-1 one of their players was doing kick ups with the ball
What kind of professional mentality is that?
What kind of professional mentality is that?
The run of getting eliminated by round of 16 started from 04–05 till 09-10 (03-04 they was eliminated in quarter final). It's very comparable in length, and worse when you considered the height Madrid was in CL under Del Bosque.
The tenure of Camacho, Capello, Luxemburgo, Bernd Schuster were more comparable to pre Mbappe and Neymar PSG. World Class players Madrid have, but not World Best award winning tier. Sneijder, Robben were world class and spear head their next team to high level.
Pellegrini short tenure is comparable to these past couple seasons: Benzema couldn't be integrated, Kaka didn't work out and injuries got in the way, Higuain was prolific but side effect was Ronaldo was not really established as the go to man when it come to goal (Ronaldo was still considered as big player for small games in this season). It's under Mourinho where all the stake was placed in Ronaldo hand and it paid off. Benzema didn't become the all world best player tier forward he was hyped but he was a great asset to elevate Ronaldo with Higuain took a lesser role, lest him choking on important moment.This PSG has that feeling that their certain top players yet to reach their full capability.
I think that’s a realistic strategy for PSG. Buy the best player of any team that dares to beat them in CL. Next level fear factor.
They have four stars with Neymar, Cavani, Mbappe and Veratti + an aging Thiago Silva. The rest of the team is nothing special at all (excluding Paredes, who I don't know). Other top teams have simply more quality in the squad.
You can add Marquinhos to the list of PSG elite players. There aren't many clubs in Europe where ADM wouldn't start either.