Gaming PS5 vs Xbox Series S|X

Which do you think will release first?

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Bebestation said:
Someone who has the PS5 or XBOX Series S.

Does it really 'Wow' you this generation?

I've always craved the next generation as soon as it came but I dont know why I'm not all that impressed this time around. I wonder if that is just me getting older and less enjoying video games or something else.

Has it actually felt like a next generation console where you felt like your previous generation was completely irrelevant?
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Similar to films the majority of games you have played before or borrow from somewhere before it’s rarer then ever something totally ground breaking comes out.

The visual upgrade is smaller then ever for this generation to its the smaller details that are the improvement this time round.

I've found for a while there is only a handful of games that truly grip me these days, i'll never bother with the vast amount of mediocre games i'm bored of them within 5 minutes, which is why i get so annoyed that people
keep buying this crap over and over again haha.
 
Alock1 said:
GTA V and RDR2 have both been on gamepass this year. And didn't RDR2 hit within a year?? With respect though, they feel like exceptions as they are absolutely huge games rather than the rule.

I'm sure you're right that some big games won't be on a sub at all and pure pay to own, just how some of the other biggest titles right now start as free to play (warzone, Fortnite etc.). I think the vast majority of games in time (10 years) will be available in a mix of models though, and available on at least 2 of those 3 options (and many all 3) - sub, free with ads/microtransactions, pay to own.

Film is different but even there the lines are blurring. See Mulan and Disney+. Or for a pre-Covid example, what about The Irishman hitting Netflix day 1. I'm not sure about cinema stats, I love cinema and I'm pretty worried about them so would love to see the stats. But that's had disruption? They all started pushing their unlimited sub models and many released they needed to offer a more premium/luxury experience Vs the home to justify the cost (recliner seats etc)
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I agree they are exceptions, but I think we are saying the same in that the largest games will appear after a long delay and most AAA games that aren't MS will have some form of delay before reaching subscription. I don't think that will change as why would companies not try and maximise profit by having an exclusive release first and then go subscriber? It worked in movies and they will try the same in games I'm sure.

Sorry, I missed RDR2 was on Game Pass in the past - I'm on PC (which slightly annoys me now I didn't get it unlike Xbox!).

Cinema was growing worldwide before Covid hit. The long term impacts of that will be unknown for a couple of years, but it doesn't change the fact that subscription didn't stop people going to the Cinema.

https://unic-cinemas.org/en/news/ne...4-billion-visits-to-european-cinemas-in-2019/

The Irishman had its rights bought by Netflix when the big movie players refused to stump up the cash needed to complete the movie when the costs spiralled rather than a big movie designed to be released on Netflix at the same time.

Going forward I think it will be a choice of buying the big games day 1 (none-MS) or waiting a few months which isn't a bad deal.
 
Bebestation said:
Someone who has the PS5 or XBOX Series S.

Does it really 'Wow' you this generation?

I've always craved the next generation as soon as it came but I dont know why I'm not all that impressed this time around. I wonder if that is just me getting older and less enjoying video games or something else.

Has it actually felt like a next generation console where you felt like your previous generation was completely irrelevant?
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Honestly the quality of life stuff feels absolutely next gen. How fast and buttery smooth everything is worth the price. Let alone the games
 
So I'm saving up for either a PS5 or a Series X, but am setting aside money to upgrade my TV as well. I've been using an old Samsung (circa 2013) that does the job fine - it was a mid-range LCD HDTV at the time of its release, but it only hits 1080p max resolution and doesn't support higher than 60Hz refresh rate. I figure if I'm going to spend the money on a new console in a few years, I should only do so when I have the technology infrastructure in place to fully utilize the console.

What do people here game on? OLED is an intriguing option if I can snag a sale in the next couple of years, but the price is still steep. Is it that much better than high end LCDs or QLEDs? Are there any other specs I should be paying attention to besides HDMI 2.1 support, 120Hz refresh rate, and 4K output?
 


Both of the premium next generation consoles also use a dynamic resolution scaling system. The lowest measured pixel count is 1440p (67 per cent of native 4K on either axis) while the maximum is 1728p (80 per cent native) and in almost all scenarios
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However, the key takeaway is that PlayStation 5 is much closer to the 60fps target more of the time, while Xbox Series X can struggle. In fact, at its worst, we noted PS5 delivering a 15 per cent performance advantage over its Microsoft equivalent in identical scenarios
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Series X|S Are Buggier than PS5: Beyond performance matters, it's pretty clear that Assassin's Creed Valhalla still needs a lot of work - especially on Xbox platforms. We encountered plenty of bugs playing this game: in addition to some weird performance bottlenecks on Series consoles, we also noted that camera motion doesn't update with a linear relationship to frame-rate during cutscenes, meaning some ugly looking stutter even with the engine actually running flat-out at 60fps (PS5 is fine here)
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Meh poorly optimised on both consoles. And Dev tools from Series X are behind according to digital foundry and the game needs a patch on it.

Will try it when it’s patched.
 
Surprising comparison regarding Valhalla! Wasn't there a lot of talk about this being optimized for Xbox Series X? or was I thinking of some other cross-platform game?
 
Kearnkoff69 said:
So I'm saving up for either a PS5 or a Series X, but am setting aside money to upgrade my TV as well. I've been using an old Samsung (circa 2013) that does the job fine - it was a mid-range LCD HDTV at the time of its release, but it only hits 1080p max resolution and doesn't support higher than 60Hz refresh rate. I figure if I'm going to spend the money on a new console in a few years, I should only do so when I have the technology infrastructure in place to fully utilize the console.

What do people here game on? OLED is an intriguing option if I can snag a sale in the next couple of years, but the price is still steep. Is it that much better than high end LCDs or QLEDs? Are there any other specs I should be paying attention to besides HDMI 2.1 support, 120Hz refresh rate, and 4K output?
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Honestly you just need a decent 4k HDR 60hz OLED/QLED the 120 fps thing is really a dream bar a few titles (at 4k anyway)

VRR is an excellent feature, but if you have never been overly bothered by screen tearing/stutter you wouldn't notice it for the extra money anyway.

OLED can do perfect blacks, QLED can not.

Burn in is still a thing on OLED's but its getting better and better so its a really small negative if your leaving it constantly on with non moving graphics on the screen.
 


PS5 performing up to 15 % better on the PS5 than on Series X.
 
It's actually more than 15%.. almost 25% in some scenes. But that's not the major issue.Issue is screen tearing. Was playing this on friends XSX and screen tearing was just way too much. Almost unplayable in certain scene. Not having VRR supported TV sucks. Hopefully it will be patched because MS can't expect everyone to have that feature.
 
Bosws87 said:
Honestly you just need a decent 4k HDR 60hz OLED/QLED the 120 fps thing is really a dream bar a few titles (at 4k anyway)

VRR is an excellent feature, but if you have never been overly bothered by screen tearing/stutter you wouldn't notice it for the extra money anyway.

OLED can do perfect blacks, QLED can not.

Burn in is still a thing on OLED's but its getting better and better so its a really small negative if your leaving it constantly on with non moving graphics on the screen.
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Thanks for the detailed response. Not too worried about burn-in, as my gaming time comes in shorter spurts the older I get (and more responsibilities pile up on my plate). I'd say the TV is used for watching shows/movies and sports 80% of the time, the other 20% is for gaming. Not needing a 120Hz refresh rate definitely opens up some more economically reasonable options, so that's also great to know. Thanks again!
 
Shark said:
I'm all for bashing Xbox but Ubisoft are notorious for poor optimisation. Still good to see the PS5 performing well
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They're awful. I have Watchdogs Legion on PC. You cannot run the game, regardless of setup, at 60fps locked. I have a 1080ti, 8700k build and I shit you not I cant even get a locked 60fps at 1080p, or even 720p for that matter!!
 
Massive Spanner said:
It's definitely not as quiet as I expected, and I haven't even played a game yet.
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b82REZ said:
A few people have reported the UI is noisier than in game.
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Sometimes I switch my Series X on just because my silent room isn’t quite quiet enough.
 
Can the controller hear what you’re saying into it when you’re on the main menu or?
 
Bojan11 said:
PC.
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Massive Spanner said:
If you have a PC, just the PS5.

if not, just the PS5.
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Redlambs said:
Go all in, uber geek style. Get both and a new 30xx nvidia card!
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VeevaVee said:
Ask yourself if you want the machine where the UI causes it to be deafening
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I have a pretty good PC honestly. I can run Warhammer 2 Total War on ultra with almost no hiccups. I'm just more of a console guy, I don't like mice and keyboards.

I'll get the PS5 first I guess. I hope the whole let's remake old games so we don't have to come up with new stuff dies out a bit though. I'm sure the new Demon's Souls looks great, but I've beaten the original a million times and I don't give a feck about graphics.
 
KirkDuyt said:
I have a pretty good PC honestly. I can run Warhammer 2 Total War on ultra with almost no hiccups. I'm just more of a console guy, I don't like mice and keyboards.

I'll get the PS5 first I guess. I hope the whole let's remake old games so we don't have to come up with new stuff dies out a bit though. I'm sure the new Demon's Souls looks great, but I've beaten the original a million times and I don't give a feck about graphics.
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There’s zero reason to get an Xbox if you have a good PC. Just subscribe to gamepass for Tetris and get a PS5.
 
Outside of old man Lambo and people who've not got an Xbox, the UI is mostly fine and rated here.
 
Sounds like a lot of people having to take precautions to avoid bricking their ps5 during set up
 
Regarding Assassins Creed looking better on PS5 I read that developers only got access to the Series X dev kit a few months before launch and are still working out how to utilise it properly whereas they’ve been using the PS5’s for a year. How true that is I guess we’ll see further down the line but the Xbox is more powerful on paper, but that doesn’t mean a whole lot if you can’t utilise the hardware to its full potential.
 
People struggling to even download a couple of games without it saying it’s full (presumably a bug despite the tiny space available), UI sending the fans wild, Afro chasing the delivery van down in his slippers. Almost embarrassing at this point.
 
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