Gaming PS5 vs Xbox Series S|X

Which do you think will release first?

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Alock1 said:
Seems you were considering building your self-designed Zelda type RPG in it at one point mate ;)
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I've designed and made games both amateur and professionally though. I also offered to help people on here with design and a plan. And no I clearly say there I was thinking of another idea :p

But in all seriousness Spark was a great idea, coming from a self taught amateur/indie background I wanted it to succeed but if you remember correctly I did bang on and on about people not over reaching and about how few would stick it out past the first week if they went in with ridiculous expectations.

Then they went with a terrible pricing plan which put so many people off too, because no one was going to buy content packs like that if they couldn't even create a basic game
 
Redlambs said:
I've designed and made games both amateur and professionally though. I also offered to help people on here with design and a plan. And no I clearly say there I was thinking of another idea :p

But in all seriousness Spark was a great idea, coming from a self taught amateur/indie background I wanted it to succeed but if you remember correctly I did bang on and on about people not over reaching and about how few would stick it out past the first week if they went in with ridiculous expectations.

Then they went with a terrible pricing plan which put so many people off too, because no one was going to buy content packs like that if they couldn't even create a basic game
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You were thinking about another idea but it was responding to people talking about creating a 'zelda type' game in Spark and you seemingly saying 'I do actually have a Zelda type game designed I could build but I've got a few others ideas I'll do instead'. That's how it read to me :). I know you didn't mean that you could build an equivalent to Zelda in it though.

Agree. The commercial model was the cause of it's failure. Maybe it wouldn't have reached it's potential as people wouldn't put the time into it, but usually there are a few standouts. It's the sort of game that can get people into developing and inspire things. We've seen a number of fully-fledged games start as mods elsewhere for example.

Anyway, getting excited about the potential of games that are on the horizon is just part of being a gamer. It's like getting excited for a new United signing. If you can't get excited then what's the point. Once the games are out, I'm always fair in critique.
 
Alock1 said:
Yakuza looks cool actually. I'm planning on trying Yakuza 0 on gamepass first to consider whether to get the new one.

I still have a PS5 pre-ordered but haven't decided whether to keep it or not yet. I'll definitely buy one at some point, and I don't think I'd want to wait until a mid-gen upgrade or slim model. With gamepass though I'm trying to buy less games until I'm confident I can get round to playing them and will get value out of it (if I buy at launch and by the time I play them they are half the price..)

I am holding off picking Spiderman back up on PS4 though as I'm that far into it, so maybe I'll grab that.
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Yakuza zero is great, but don’t expect the new one to be similar. 7 is turn based combat, so it will be a totally different experience.

Surprised you haven’t finished Spiderman considering how you loved Sunset overdrive.
 
Bojan11 said:
Yakuza zero is great, but don’t expect the new one to be similar. 7 is turn based combat, so it will be a totally different experience.

Surprised you haven’t finished Spiderman considering how you loved Sunset overdrive.
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It's more of a personal circumstances change to be honest, which is why I'm only just picking up my Switch again and cracking through the back catalogue.

That's one of the things I find interesting actually. Sunset was clearly a precursor for Spiderman and was the perfect game for them to build to deliver a great Spiderman experience (open world & key, traversal). But similarly, Control feels like a successor to Quantum Break and looks like it takes something that had potentially and delivers a really solid experience.

If they had been first party studios and not 2nd party licensing that Microsoft didn't then persist with a relationship on, look at what could have been.
 
Alock1 said:
You were thinking about another idea but it was responding to people talking about creating a 'zelda type' game in Spark and you seemingly saying 'I do actually have a Zelda type game designed I could build but I've got a few others ideas I'll do instead'. That's how it read to me :). I know you didn't mean that you could build an equivalent to Zelda in it though.

Agree. The commercial model was the cause of it's failure. Maybe it wouldn't have reached it's potential as people wouldn't put the time into it, but usually there are a few standouts. It's the sort of game that can get people into developing and inspire things. We've seen a number of fully-fledged games start as mods elsewhere for example.

Anyway, getting excited about the potential of games that are on the horizon is just part of being a gamer. It's like getting excited for a new United signing. If you can't get excited then what's the point. Once the games are out, I'm always fair in critique.
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I know mate.

Still never hurts to have a little rib here and there ;)

I'm actually getting quite excited now for the release dates as they get closer, despite all my moaning about nothing being that interesting from the off I still have that gamer feeling of not wanting to wait to open that box and get a new machine hooked up :drool:
 
It's still exciting to get a new phone to use the same apps as before, a new tele to watch the same films or a new laptop to post on the same forums. It's only really consoles where we feel we need to justify them with exclusives that only that device can play.

As someone with base Xbox (well, One S) and PS4, the quality of life improvements alone are huge for me. I just wish Cyberpunk was getting it's next gen patch at release - that alone would put a whole different shine on things for me.
 
Alock1 said:
It's still exciting to get a new phone to use the same apps as before, a new tele to watch the same films or a new laptop to post on the same forums. It's only really consoles where we feel we need to justify them with exclusives that only that device can play.

As someone with base Xbox (well, One S) and PS4, the quality of life improvements alone are huge for me. I just wish Cyberpunk was getting it's next gen patch at release - that alone would put a whole different shine on things for me.
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PC gamers are the silliest. Get an average of 160 FPS at ultra settings? Got to get those numbers up. (144hz monitor).

We're all so used to chasing numbers in games (22 defensive points Vs 15) we really forget what the point of games are, and that is to have fun.

The biggest thing you are spending is minutes and hours of your short life.

The big improvement of the PS4 over the PS3 is that it was easier to program for. More games can be made, more fun can be had.

We don't need to chase 4k 120fps

The biggest game at the moment is Among Us
 
rcoobc said:
PC gamers are the silliest. Get an average of 160 FPS at ultra settings? Got to get those numbers up. (144hz monitor).

We're all so used to chasing numbers in games (22 defensive points Vs 15) we really forget what the point of games are, and that is to have fun.

The biggest thing you are spending is minutes and hours of your short life.

The big improvement of the PS4 over the PS3 is that it was easier to program for. More games can be made, more fun can be had.

We don't need to chase 4k 120fps

The biggest game at the moment is Among Us
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Great post.
 
Alock1 said:
It's more of a personal circumstances change to be honest, which is why I'm only just picking up my Switch again and cracking through the back catalogue.

That's one of the things I find interesting actually. Sunset was clearly a precursor for Spiderman and was the perfect game for them to build to deliver a great Spiderman experience (open world & key, traversal). But similarly, Control feels like a successor to Quantum Break and looks like it takes something that had potentially and delivers a really solid experience.

If they had been first party studios and not 2nd party licensing that Microsoft didn't then persist with a relationship on, look at what could have been.
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MS should have bought Insomniac, but I guess Sunset didn’t do too well in terms of sales.

Buying Insomniac would have meant someone else would have had to make Spiderman, which probably would have taken longer as Insomniac basically had the assets ready from sunset and of course no portals.
 
Bojan11 said:
MS should have bought Insomniac, but I guess Sunset didn’t do too well in terms of sales.

Buying Insomniac would have meant someone else would have had to make Spiderman, which probably would have taken longer as Insomniac basically had the assets ready from sunset and of course no portals.
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It's a shame because I genuinely believe Sunset was a great game. Lots of people on here had it down as their GOTY. Even it did only get 81 on metacritic..

Again, it's another game that is perfect for the Game Pass era. A few people try it for free, word spreads and it gains traction. And offers the sort of variation needed.

Wonder if anybody buys Remedy.
 
rcoobc said:
PC gamers are the silliest. Get an average of 160 FPS at ultra settings? Got to get those numbers up. (144hz monitor).

We're all so used to chasing numbers in games (22 defensive points Vs 15) we really forget what the point of games are, and that is to have fun.

The biggest thing you are spending is minutes and hours of your short life.

The big improvement of the PS4 over the PS3 is that it was easier to program for. More games can be made, more fun can be had.

We don't need to chase 4k 120fps

The biggest game at the moment is Among Us
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There's a reason why people who play fps (as an example) want as high an fps as possible, and hz of the monitor has nothing to do with it.

It's also not just about numbers, literally everything in terms of gameplay is affected by fps too. Even in Among Us.

Absolutely nothing wrong with variation in gaming, nothing wrong with people wanting to push the limits either. The only issue is when companies create bullshit buzzwords and people on the Internet argue over them without even knowing what they mean :lol:
 
rcoobc said:
PC gamers are the silliest. Get an average of 160 FPS at ultra settings? Got to get those numbers up. (144hz monitor).

We're all so used to chasing numbers in games (22 defensive points Vs 15) we really forget what the point of games are, and that is to have fun.

The biggest thing you are spending is minutes and hours of your short life.

The big improvement of the PS4 over the PS3 is that it was easier to program for. More games can be made, more fun can be had.

We don't need to chase 4k 120fps

The biggest game at the moment is Among Us
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Very true!! And even on console it's Fall Guys.
 
Redlambs said:
I've designed and made games both amateur and professionally though. I also offered to help people on here with design and a plan. And no I clearly say there I was thinking of another idea :p

But in all seriousness Spark was a great idea, coming from a self taught amateur/indie background I wanted it to succeed but if you remember correctly I did bang on and on about people not over reaching and about how few would stick it out past the first week if they went in with ridiculous expectations.

Then they went with a terrible pricing plan which put so many people off too, because no one was going to buy content packs like that if they couldn't even create a basic game
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What do you make of Dreams?
Bojan11 said:
MS should have bought Insomniac, but I guess Sunset didn’t do too well in terms of sales.
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No they fecking shouldn't have! They've already taken a handful of potential VR game developers away from me...
 
Having done more research than I have ever done before on a console 'war', it's clear to me that this is a bit like choosing between heads or tails. Comes down to personal preference and specifics.
 
altodevil said:
Having done more research than I have ever done before on a console 'war', it's clear to me that this is a bit like choosing between heads or tails. Comes down to personal preference and specifics.
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Xbox:
More power
Cheaper games
Game Pass
Elder Scrolls and the like as exclusives

PS5:
Not very good
Take ages to load UI
Bore Turismo and a few Assassin's Creed ripoffs
Elvis
 
VeevaVee said:
I can only assume you're talking to the PS5 guys there, who have lost yet again
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I think the whole thing is pretty weak tbh. A lot of it is tongue in cheek, but some of the social media response around the slow released information is absolutely childlike.
 
altodevil said:
Having done more research than I have ever done before on a console 'war', it's clear to me that this is a bit like choosing between heads or tails. Comes down to personal preference and specifics.
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I really think the main deciding factors are:

1. Where your friends will be playing.
2. Where your existing digital library is.
 
Berbasbullet said:
Basically this, they will both be class let’s be honest.
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Absolutely.

I'll be sticking with the Xbox because when I had a PS4 I rarely turned it on, my friends game on PC or Xbox, and I've got GamePass Ultimate for another two years as well as an extensive digital catalogue in the ecosystem. I'd say that I'll get a PS5 in the future, but I probably won't because I barely have enough time to play the games I want to on Xbox. That said Demon's souls does look awesome.

For all the comical hyperbole of this thread, I think a lot of others are in a similar boat, we generally value comfort and convenience.
 
Xbox

Better graphics on the X
Cheaper games on gamepass

PS5

Better games
 
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