Reckon you can bank on it...Will GT7 be PSVR2 compatible?
I already own a Series X, but if GT7 has VR support I will for sure be getting a digital edition PS5 and the VR kit. I've been looking at sim rigs but with a decent PC attached they're a lot of cash. Would get a decent wheel set too.
Gaming PS5 vs Xbox Series S|X
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Yeah fair enough. I know I need to give Horizon more time, it's obvious it gets better. The first 4 or so hours have been really average though. Reminds me of when people tell you how great a TV series is but you have to get to the 2nd or 3rd season first which is always a bit frustrating.
With Elden Ring, the people reviewing it are very much the people who love those games and go deep. Listening to a bunch of podcasts with others who have had early access but weren't chosen to be the reviewers, the response is a lot more mixed. Not sure I'd prefer it if a bunch of people who obviously wouldn't like Elden Ring reviewed it though.
I always wonder who picks the reviewers and why? For example, pick a reviewer that doesn't like a particular genre then that game is guaranteed a low score and the review is gonna have bad takes, and a lot of discussion online.
Conversely, if a fan does the review its getting the masterpiece score, a page of felatio and maybe a box quote.
For sure, I think the fact that FS games only appeal to a certain type of gamer (albeit, it's getting more and more popular with each game) means they get a lot of leeway and it's almost like "hey if you don't understand why this type of game and combat is a masterpiece then that's your fault, not the game's". I adored Bloodborne and am really enjoying Elden Ring but they are not perfect games. It's actually weird with Elden Ring, people keep saying the world looks great but honestly, even on my good PC, it looks very last gen compared to a lot of games released recently (Horizon, Ratchet, Halo etc). And it has performance issues across all platforms. How is that acceptable for a 10/10?
And yeah the start of Horizon is really slow and really average, it's unfortunate because the game gets great once it properly opens up.
I was shocked to see Halo sitting at 87 on metacritic given that us Xbox fans™ have been fairly harsh on it. Similarly Reddit's opinion is very mixed (even on /r/Halo).
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Yep, we've had this discussion before. I think giving a game 6/7 means it's decent and worth a play, though don't expect greatness and yet people also moan about that being harsh!
So now everything is a 8/9/10 which is ridiculous.
Very good point. Thing is it's not hard to add balance, but free copies and early access shows what these guys are really doing it for.
Personally I absolutely love From's games, all of them including DS2, and soulsbourne games like The Surge. And no doubt I'll love Elden, I'm already hooked. But I've already seen and talked about a lot of issues with it, some pretty major in terms of game design, and yet magically no reviews talk about any of it which they should and still give it high scores if they so wish. No chance it's a 10 by any metric though, it's far from flawless.
But gotta get that swag over any integrity.
Do you mean in terms of publishers dictating what reviewers can say?
Eurogamer's Horizon review said that they were told not to say certain things about the story, and I heard another former editor say something similar in a podcast recently. I suppose therefore it's not outside of the realm of likelihood that they're given a list of what they can and can't talk about, hence why they might end up sounding similar.
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Are we talking about story spoilers or something else?
Much of Forbidden West's narrative issues are frustratingly embargoed, but know that at times it will go fully off the rails into wild, nonsensical sci-fi.
This is the line. Sounds like they were limited in what they could say about the story, which might include spoilers.
True but I find Metacritic is quite good when you ignore the numbers and use the colours instead. Anything Green is probably good. Yellow is okay. Red is bad etc.
It makes it more like Rotten Tomatoes where it's simply aggregating review scores to determine if people liked it or not.
Yeah, if you shit on a game and you're not a big outlet then you may not receive a review copy next time. For the big outlets, there's an obvious conflict with sponsored content and advertising.
Can't comment on Elden Ring yet but for what it's worth I don't think a game has to be flawless to be a 10/10. If a game has little ambition and executes perfectly I don't think that has more right to be a 10 than something that sets out to be really ambitious and innovative, only to miss some beats along the way but totally excel and game change/genre define in others.
Oh 100% (I was on my phone so couldn't be arsed to elaborate!), I don't mean flawless as in terms of technical, I mean in terms of what they set out to achieve and what they did. For example, take BOTW, that's a bonafide masterpiece. Sure some of us have issues with some of it, like weapon degrading or lack of dungeons, but to them and what it achieves it's hard to argue against those kinds of scores even if I don't personally give it a 10.
Whereas with Elden Ring, there's obvious flaws and backwards steps from the off. The combat, for example, isn't as fluid as DS3 or BB, it's actually a lot like DS2 (which is universally derided). Enemy placement suffers from the same thing, so does the way the bosses simply get spammy on the second phases rather than genuine changes to attack patterns (again, another major issue with 2). Even the mechanics they've tried to work, like parrying, they've had a good idea (making the enemies way more random) but they've then made almost every enemy do that and left in the strict window timing, it's a mish-mash. It's all way more debatable than with the games generally regarded as all round 10's, it really isn't in that category for me.
Now of course that's my opinion, and of course I have no issue with people on here giving it 10 or it being their best game ever as it's clearly a top notch game and one I myself will no doubt love. The problem I have is that it's clearly flawed though and yet all reviews parrot the same exact thing "OMG it's like BOTW!" whilst mentioning none of the backwards steps and problems. They are clearly all magically singing from the same hymn sheet, as it's not like BOTW at all so someone has dreamed up that comparison and given it to them. It's like the reverse of Sifu, where they all banged on unanimously about this magic difficulty and how it's "not for everyone 'la!". With Elden Ring they are almost tricking people who otherwise have never tried a souls game into thinking it's something else, whereas with Sifu they convinced plenty of people not to buy it the same way. Speaking of which, Sifu is way more flawless and realised than ER is.
Reviews have for a long time been paid for, and the crib sheets they are given are nothing new. It just seems way more blatant lately, probably because at least back in the magazine days you actually had to have some kind of journalistic training/background to do it whereas now anybody can just put videos up. And I don't even blame them, free swag! But it's a problem when they are actively now openly unified as a whole.
Edge magazine still have a proper 1-10 review scale.
I don't think any game should be getting close to a 97. That should be an almost perfect game and no matter how good a game gets there is always room for improvement.
I have said for ages though that you can't trust the critics about the quality of a game. I watch playthroughs to see if a game is something that I would be interested in but even then I'm not sure if I'll enjoy the game until I play it myself.
So is it fair to say XBox are losing this fight... Again...? Surprise surprise.
@Alock1 what's happening with Starfield?
@Alock1 what's happening with Starfield?
I don't use much physical media other than games, but I want to watch a few blu rays. Am I right in saying that the ps5 has slightly better playback?
I've got both, so it's no bother. I'd just rather get the best experience.
I've got both, so it's no bother. I'd just rather get the best experience.
Should do. Sony will have a better Blu Ray playback than Microsoft. But I think there is a lack of Dolby Atmos...
Fight for what, sales, best place to play? I think Xbox with gamepass is a better proposition and I use mine way more than my PS. I do think Xbox need to build on last years momentum though with some games this year. Not convinced Redfall and Starfield will definitely come out this year, and any shine of having critical game like Deathloop hit gamepass is lost due to it being on PS for so long (not that GP fans will care as it's an extra game to play for no additional cost). Forza will be solid if it happens, but doesn't really move the needle. If PS do have God of War to follow up Horizon then momentum swings back PS way on the exclusive front, especially if something like TLOU Factions hits too.
The new PS subscription will be big but I don't think the value will be close to Gamepass since they won't put day 1 games on there. I'm sure it'll still get tons of subscribers in a short space of time though.
I was very interested in the Xbox dongle for streaming but that seems to have gone quiet. We should be hearing about the PS gamepass service soon but I would keep your expectations in check if it's anything like the recent leak..
Out of topic, but how long do you guys usually play on average? Is it an hour a day, or more? I don’t know how some people seem to finish new titles so fast. And get platinums and everything on top.
As a decent alternative, you can always use remote play via the Xbox app if you have a laptop lying around. I find it tremendously useful for playing in the bedroom, and probably use it more than I do the main console.
Admittedly a dongle would be an upgrade for sure but this is a good """free""" alternative.
Guardians of the Galaxy coming to Gamepass. Was tempted to buy it for some time but it always felt like it would be on Gamepass at some point.
Yeah, when I've finished with God Of War I might give that a go. Heard some good things.
Game pass winning again?
It's a good get tbf... Not enough heavy hitters on game pass for me though.
Don't think it's my kinda game tbh but glad to get it.
Kentucky route zero is coming too and that's a near masterpiece (though requires a lot of reading)
I swear gamepass just makes buying so many games pointless now. I remember looking at guardians a while ago thinking of buying it but just didn’t bother as it was obvious it’d be on gamepass in not too long.
My question is... Will all the same games end up on both gamepass and whatever PlayStation's service is? Apart from the exclusives obviously.
There'll be stuff written into the contracts. Bit like what has been going on with the FF games on Game Pass and PS Now. They started off on Game Pass then after they left GP went on PS Now. Publishers will look to double dip in terms of money.
Some will have exclusive periods on one or the other, some will be available on both. Same as the situation with TV subscription providers really.
Doubt I'll be signing up to either anytime soon. Gotta play what I have and stop spending, with these rising household costs
Xbox boss Phil Spencer asks fans not to "weaponise" games for "battles between platforms"
Xbox boss Phil Spencer has asked that fans respect creators, and to celebrate the upcoming releases regardless of platform.
Spencer was recently awarded a Lifetime Achievement award at DICE 2022. Following his acceptance speech (in which he called out the toxic environments in the gaming industry).
When asked if he had a message for fans, Spencer was keen to voice his wish players respected creators, rather than use games as ammunition in a console war. "I think it's very often that creations can be kind of weaponised and used in battles between platforms and other things," Spencer said.
"I look at everybody who is brave enough to create something, put it out... have their peers, the industry, players, play and analyse and talk about what they do. Let's just celebrate the fact that so many great games are coming out from so many creators and realise that's such a foundation for where this industry is going to go".
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2022-03-02-xbox-ceo-phil-spencer-asks-fans-to-respect-creators
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Goes without saying that engaging in console wars is childish and silly but I know what some of you are like.
Xbox boss Phil Spencer has asked that fans respect creators, and to celebrate the upcoming releases regardless of platform.
Spencer was recently awarded a Lifetime Achievement award at DICE 2022. Following his acceptance speech (in which he called out the toxic environments in the gaming industry).
When asked if he had a message for fans, Spencer was keen to voice his wish players respected creators, rather than use games as ammunition in a console war. "I think it's very often that creations can be kind of weaponised and used in battles between platforms and other things," Spencer said.
"I look at everybody who is brave enough to create something, put it out... have their peers, the industry, players, play and analyse and talk about what they do. Let's just celebrate the fact that so many great games are coming out from so many creators and realise that's such a foundation for where this industry is going to go".
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2022-03-02-xbox-ceo-phil-spencer-asks-fans-to-respect-creators
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Goes without saying that engaging in console wars is childish and silly but I know what some of you are like.
In other news, reviews for GT7 are in and it looks like Us Sony Gamers have another great one to enjoy:
Gran Turismo 7 is the quintessential Gran Turismo and the best of what the series has accrued over its 25 years of existence. The game is beautiful, detailed and fresh, powered by a detailed handling model that’s yet to be seen in racing games.
Making full use of PlayStation 5’s DualSense controller to convey an incredibly deep and satisfying driving model, everything from weather to reflected sound effects have been modelled to perfection – making Gran Turismo 7 easily the world’s most complete driving game.
Gran Turismo 7 is the game that longtime fans of the series have been requesting for years. Although what's here isn't drastically different in format when compared to some of the earlier installments, the overall experience that Gran Turismo 7 provides is incredibly comprehensive and feels like a love letter to both car culture and the 25-year history of the Gran Turismo franchise.
Gran Turismo 7 is the quintessential Gran Turismo and the best of what the series has accrued over its 25 years of existence. The game is beautiful, detailed and fresh, powered by a detailed handling model that’s yet to be seen in racing games.
Making full use of PlayStation 5’s DualSense controller to convey an incredibly deep and satisfying driving model, everything from weather to reflected sound effects have been modelled to perfection – making Gran Turismo 7 easily the world’s most complete driving game.
Gran Turismo 7 is the game that longtime fans of the series have been requesting for years. Although what's here isn't drastically different in format when compared to some of the earlier installments, the overall experience that Gran Turismo 7 provides is incredibly comprehensive and feels like a love letter to both car culture and the 25-year history of the Gran Turismo franchise.
Exciting times. One thing hasn't changed since the OG Gran Turismo and that is me and my main gaming friend spending hours shaving 100th's of seconds off timetrials with each other. It's every bit as competitive as some of my other mates' PES tournaments back in the day.
Between this, Elden Ring and Hollow Knight I will be kept busy for weeks / months. I'm genuinely considering buying a gaming chair and steering wheel for this for the first time ever.
God yeah, I'm jealous of people who have proper set-ups with a steering wheel, gears and a chair.
It's one of those things I tell myself I'll buy when I get around to buying a house. Must be so immersive.
Yeah me too. Always wanted one and either:
1. Never been able to afford one
2. Never had the space for one
3. Or wasn't allowed to spend £100's of pounds on a steering wheel when we needed a new vacuum or summat!
Tbh, point 1 still exists to a degree, I know there's lots of other things I need, especially as I've just bought a house but seeing as points 2 and 3 are now defunct, I may just ignore point 1.
88 MC is pretty nuts. Thought it would be 85 or below with reviewers comparing it unfavourably to Forza Horizon despite them being for different target audiences.
Me seeing the biggest exclusive go up in flames
Me seeing the biggest exclusive go up in flames
@Damien are you able to post all the latest news so we know what Veeva is referring to
Has anyone played Lost Judgement - and is it any good?