Im predominantly a PC gamer i haven't had a disc drive for years
stop trying to defend a faceless corporation and take my comments from an open mind, i don't care if Microsoft/Sony or Nintendo have the best console i've owned them all.Gaming PS5 vs Xbox Series S|X
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Im predominantly a PC gamer i haven't had a disc drive for years
stop trying to defend a faceless corporation and take my comments from an open mind, i don't care if Microsoft/Sony or Nintendo have the best console i've owned them all.@Bojan11 is such a bitch
Im predominantly a PC gamer i haven't had a disc drive for years
You the one wishing a company fails with no real explanation besides you don’t like gamepass. Which is bizarre especially if you on PC and enjoying your Netflix sub.
If MS up their game then Sony will have to up theirs too. So why do you want them to fail?
Because as explained before the subscription model for gaming opens up some things i disagree with i don't want to be fed a 2 minute advert when i boot a game up or be at a disadvantage as i didn't buy the game a certain way so on and so on.
Similar to you know when the original xbox one was announced with forced kinect and always online console or you couldnt play your games it failed miserably so we didn't have to keep that crap either.
So we going back to stuff that was planned but didn’t happen under previous management? Which they did a quick u turn and realised they screwed up. What does this have to do with now? That has no correlation to gamepass. What 2 minute advert? Give me examples of games that have had that?
You do realise that Sony video it’s impossible to do that if you buy the digital PS5. Also I hope MS do bring back some of the stuff that they announced for Xbox one like the digital family sharing option now that you mention it. @Alock1 tell the team to bring that back.
You could just save time and say I want MS to fail because I love Sony so much. Would make more sense than you going on about 2 minute adverts that don’t exist and posting vids or stuff from 7 years ago. Atleast that slime ball @esmufc07 can admit who he is.
for those who have both consoles how does Game Pass compare to PS Now
I've only had Xbox's since PS2
I've only had Xbox's since PS2
Its better as all the games are downloadable. You can download PS now games but they have to be playable on PS4 and the selection is low compared to gamepass where all games are downloadable.
It also has a better selection of games. Yakuza series, kingdom heart series, Nier Automata, streets of rage 4 and plenty of others including the usual Xbox exclusives.
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/xbox-game-pass-games-list-this-month-price-6400
PS now blows game pass out of the window and I am impartial.
Yep never played Xbox love Sony
I forgot how childish and defensive people got over someone not liking some features of their favourite piece of hardware, i own an xbox elite controller because you know its the best controller on the market, i also have an adaptor so i can use the xbox controller on ps4 along with my PC.
I also happen to think when you could fully install games on the xbox 360 and just needed the disk in the drive as security that this was a fantastic feature, the universal invite system unlike the original botched job on the ps3 which was unique to every game was also amazing.
Ori will of the wisps & the blind forest also incredibly cool games, imagine that being able to appreciate quality pieces of work no matter who created it, this silly love to one brand is only hurting your own enjoyment not mine.
Feel free to add me on xbox live Seanb21
Yep never played Xbox love Sony
I forgot how childish and defensive people got over someone not liking some features of their favourite piece of hardware, i own an xbox elite controller because you know its the best controller on the market, i also have an adaptor so i can use the xbox controller on ps4 along with my PC.
I also happen to think when you could fully install games on the xbox 360 and just needed the disk in the drive as security that this was a fantastic feature, the universal invite system unlike the original botched job on the ps3 which was unique to every game was also amazing.
Ori will of the wisps & the blind forest also incredibly cool games, imagine that being able to appreciate quality pieces of work no matter who created it, this silly love to one brand is only hurting your own enjoyment not mine.
Feel free to add me on xbox live Seanb21
Mate there’s no need to upload potato footage of your mates Xbox account.
We all know how you feel no need to get defensive about it. You said it yourself you hope MS fail. Just embrace it.
That’s what we want. MS to fail and Sony left on their own because competition would be bad for consumers. I’m off to watch the imaginary 2 minute adverts.
PS5 shipments may reach at least 120 million units in next 5 years
https://www.digitimes.com/news/a20200727PD211.html
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Possibly a tad high I’d have though but it will easily pass 100m. Xbox won’t come close.
Probably 60 million lifetime for Xbox.
In other news, I've just spent £155 on a controller for Xbox so I'm getting a Series X first.
I'm hopeful of picking up a PS5 next year.
It's for my birthday!£155 on a controller!! You clearly have too much money
Trust me, if I had too much money I would get both consoles at launch.
Personally I don't think I'll ever subscribe to PS Now. The playstation games I want I'll buy.
I would subscribe to gamepass for pc, for a limited time if it included games that I'm very tempted to just play and get the experience done with, like The Lost Odyssey, Fable 2 or the new Fable.
I would subscribe to gamepass for pc, for a limited time if it included games that I'm very tempted to just play and get the experience done with, like The Lost Odyssey, Fable 2 or the new Fable.
£155 on a controller!! You clearly have too much money
I bought it too. What’s your problem? It’s a good controller and you can use it on the series X. So it’s not going to waste when new console is out.
Cracking controller just give the face buttons a good test when you have it as the manufacturing is hit and miss.
I remember you saying this. So, if they are sticking you have to wear them in? Or send back right away?
Send it back they wont stick you will press the button and nothing happens you will notice it straight away.
OK, thanks. By the way, according to the MS site, it's not getting delivered until late August! These things are to get hold of.
I forgot how childish and defensive people got over someone not liking some features of their favourite piece of hardware, i own an xbox elite controller because you know its the best controller on the market, i also have an adaptor so i can use the xbox controller on ps4 along with my PC.
I also happen to think when you could fully install games on the xbox 360 and just needed the disk in the drive as security that this was a fantastic feature, the universal invite system unlike the original botched job on the ps3 which was unique to every game was also amazing.
Ori will of the wisps & the blind forest also incredibly cool games, imagine that being able to appreciate quality pieces of work no matter who created it, this silly love to one brand is only hurting your own enjoyment not mine.
Feel free to add me on xbox live Seanb21
Awesome.
So you want a company to fail who has brought you the best controller on the market.
A company that has brought games to you that PS haven't, which would hurt your enjoyment.
And a silly love to one brand, yet you want one to fail, leaving you with one brand.
Yeh so they change like they did with the xbox one, such a hard concept to understand.
Everyone conveniently forgotten the original launch of the xbox one and what a disaster it was and games were just an extra.
But Xbox gamespass is a good thing for consumers.
Unlike the Xbox one launch, people are actually behind this, so it wont fail.
If the console absolutely bombs, who knows, maybe they'd back away this time, so again why do you want them to fail?
And considering you're on the PC like me, all our games are digital. All our games are non tradeable.
Origin access for the PC is a great example of this. £80 for the year. Every game, the most expensive editions, all available from day one.
Most games these days are throwaway. Most people only play the latest CODs, Fifa's etc.
So the top end Fifa game being around £70 a year, yet for an extra £10 you can have their full library for a year
Nah all these steam spawns are dreadful and multiple subscription services isn't a good thing, netflix, prime and disney + hasn't suddenly made my viewing any better its just cost me more to watch a core of shows.
All very good points.... but games on Xbox not looking very compelling right now. Do they have more games for the short term yet to be announced or is this it?
Change what? Here we go again. You were talking about imaginary adverts that don’t even exist. Then start posting crap from 2013 about used games, which had nothing do with the convo.
Even if gamepass succeeds, it doesn’t mean every other publisher is going to follow suit and copy that model.
EA have had their own sub system from last gen, yet they give you a limited time on new releases and release Fifa or any other game on it 6 or 7 months down the line. It makes no business sense for them to have Fifa on there day one when people will pay £50 for the copy.
Rockstar won’t follow it. GTA still is in the charts, so a sub system wouldn’t work for them. If they had released a sub system then GTA wouldn’t be the sales juggernaut it is. It’s literally been in the charts from 2013.
Ubisoft have their own sub service on PC. But new games release after a while on it, so no Valhalla or Watchdogs Legion.
Sony have had PS now. No new releases be on there day and why would they? If Sony first party games keep selling it’s irrelevant to them on how successful game pass is. Both are taking different approaches.
Publishers aren’t giving up the £50 for a game model, so I just don’t get what point your making especially as some of them are increasing the price for games to £60 for next gen. Also if you buy 10 games a year at full price, it would be cheaper subscribing to 4 or 5 places where you get access to hundreds of games.
What works for MS isn’t going to work for other publishers. Why is that hard to understand? MS have the deepest pockets in gaming, so can take risks like this where they release new games on gamepass.
They have a few studios that didn’t show anything. But those are not coming any time soon. Both are going to announce more games next month.
But like I said before besides the odd Sony exclusive, year one and possible two will be cross gen stuff mainly for both.
Nearly everything that becomes standard is from a product pushing it to become successful, DVD, Blu-ray, MP3, the netflix model, paid online console gaming, micro transactions, in game gambling (fifa points, cs skins etc) not everything successful is positive imo.
I like owning products physical/digital if the game pass is a huge success its naturally going to be the norm through many more then just Microsoft games you might think that's great i personally think its awful.
pretending that it won't effect the industry is bollocks, simple as.
You do realise nearly most games have had micro transactions from the last 10 years? This is way before gamepass existed. Also besides Fifa, I think most pubs have learnt their lesson regarding micro transactions. You know that free game which nobody paid for called Fortnite which you could buy cosmetic items. Now a lot of games are going down that route, I don’t care about that. They can charge for cosmetic items all they want as long as it does not impact the gameplay. Same for skins. I don’t care for skins or shit as long as they not charging for weapons.
Yeah, I can see Sony and everyone copying MS. Even Nintendo maybe too, why not? Forget charging £50 for a single game which works for Sony and Nintendo. They’d just ignore what still works for them and jump on the bandwagon to join MS. They’d probably put adverts in their games too to spite you.
You don’t seem to grasp that publishers can have different strategies. Just like in football, managers have different tactics. What’s going to work for one publisher isn’t going to work for another.
Sony don’t need to emulate gamepass. It would be great if they did, but it would make no business sense for them. When God of War 2 is out, people are going to rush out and buy it. They not going to say hang on MS are giving their new games free, why aren’t Sony? Sony have solid first party support like Nintendo. People will rush out and buy their games regardless if MS give them out for free.
The £50 or £60 gaming model is going to be here a while. So quit your belly aching.
Just to point out on PC, EA have premium access at £80 a year, for everything, day one.
It may not be worth for most people, but especially for sports fans, it's an absolute bargain.
And owning sports games have zero return unless you get rid very quickly
Edit: The Uplay sub also release all games on release
If there were some good exclusives for Xbox I’d have no issue picking one up alongside the PS5. Sadly the ones they do have don’t interest me and I’ve seen nothing from their line up to convince me otherwise.
Again clutching at straws.
We get it you don’t like gamepass. But that’s not going to stop you buying MS games. You can buy their games separately. How many times do I have to explain this to you? Sopranos is on HBO or Sky on demand. Yet you can buy the boxset separately if you wish. Just like Better call Saul is on Netflix, but I can buy the blu ray.
The option is there with all games too. You can join a sub like PS NOW, uplay, EA Access or buy the games outright. Why is that hard for you to understand? That’s not going away.
I agree with you. Last week they didn’t do a good job selling the Series x unless you love Xbox. Spencer just said there’s another event coming in August, so who knows. They did a good job selling gamepass more. The hardware side they do a good job with console and controller. Game side they lagging behind Nintendo and Sony.
Yeah I’m not privy to MS’s strategy going forward. In 10 years we may not even have traditional consoles and the Stadia model may be more popular. As you’ve said though competition is good and Xbox forced Sony to adapt and for the better so I’ve no complaints. At heart I’m a PlayStation fan and have been ever since I got a PS1 and that’s not likely to ever change
Kin hell, Xbox is a good choice. PS only has exclusives over it — that’s it. For some that’s a deal breaker but not for all. Xbox’s exclusives haven’t been horrendous either so.
The game pass service/Xbox ultimate is the best service out there — it is known.
The game pass service/Xbox ultimate is the best service out there — it is known.
Kind of important when it comes to gaming consoles.
Yeah I’m not privy to MS’s strategy going forward. In 10 years we may not even have traditional consoles and the Stadia model may be more popular. As you’ve said though competition is good and Xbox forced Sony to adapt and for the better so I’ve no complaints. At heart I’m a PlayStation fan and have been ever since I got a PS1 and that’s not likely to ever change
Judging by the broadband thread, I think the stadia model wouldn’t work for another 20 years in the UK!
