Gaming PS5 vs Xbox Series S|X

Which do you think will release first?

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Bosws87 said:
I've always associated half life with the physics puzzles and the illusion of a non linear game which in reality is very linear.

Halo's never been my thing to many bullets to kill someone so don't know the series in depth.
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Well then that's your problem, you missed the best of both.

Half Life introduced us to a story driven FPS with enemies who seemed to think and protect themselves, and big open set pieces that told a story. Halo was the next (and arguably last) major AI push, with enemies who actually worked as a squad, with set pieces bigger and better than any before. Neither game were about illusions and all that, they lived and died on the gameplay innovations, AI and solid gunplay.

Halo 1 was the last big leap in terms of fps AI, I mean I'd consider F.E.A.R but that was much more corridor, and only surface. In the terms of games that pushed the genre forward, games like Goldeneye/HL/Halo/Deus Ex/System Shock have all pushed the genre on, there's no doubting that no matter if they are console or not, they are set in stone.

One thing I will say though, I'll never get the love for Halo 3. It was boring at best, only the multiplayer did anything interesting. Also, whilst I'm on it, Halo 2 broke the gunplay of 1, the dual weapons and nurfing the classic weapons was shite. Luckily the settings and atmosphere saved it.
 
Brand loyalty to major corps is dumb as feck and is the ultimate show of capitalism at it's best/worst.

Still, it doesn't stop us. My best friend will only ever use Heinz Ketchup and won't even contemplate trying anything else despite me constantly calling her a lunatic. I mean I do get it, it's conditioning one way or another, but god bless I do love that nut job in the same way I kind of tolerate you idiots in here :lol:
 
Redlambs said:
Well then that's your problem, you missed the best of both.

Half Life introduced us to a story driven FPS with enemies who seemed to think and protect themselves, and big open set pieces that told a story. Halo was the next (and arguably last) major AI push, with enemies who actually worked as a squad, with set pieces bigger and better than any before. Neither game were about illusions and all that, they lived and died on the gameplay innovations, AI and solid gunplay.

Halo 1 was the last big leap in terms of fps AI, I mean I'd consider F.E.A.R but that was much more corridor, and only surface. In the terms of games that pushed the genre forward, games like Goldeneye/HL/Halo/Deus Ex/System Shock have all pushed the genre on, there's no doubting that no matter if they are console or not, they are set in stone.

One thing I will say though, I'll never get the love for Halo 3. It was boring at best, only the multiplayer did anything interesting. Also, whilst I'm on it, Halo 2 broke the gunplay of 1, the dual weapons and nurfing the classic weapons was shite. Luckily the settings and atmosphere saved it.
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Was still stuck playing Medal of Honor Allied Assault online on pc back in those days played it competitively for maybe 8 years, its still going today has a solid community.

That's the greatest multiplayer ever made for me, but i don't expect many to of played it or agree.
 
Redlambs said:
Brand loyalty to major corps is dumb as feck and is the ultimate show of capitalism at it's best/worst.

Still, it doesn't stop us. My best friend will only ever use Heinz Ketchup and won't even contemplate trying anything else despite me constantly calling her a lunatic. I mean I do get it, it's conditioning one way or another, but god bless I do love that nut job in the same way I kind of tolerate you idiots in here :lol:
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Pretty much. Variety is the spice of life.
 
Bosws87 said:
Was still stuck playing Medal of Honor Allied Assault online on pc back in those days played it competitively for maybe 8 years, its still going today has a solid community.

That's the greatest multiplayer ever made for me, but i don't expect many to of played it or agree.
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Not sure I'd agree best ever, but it does have a great community. Halo has an equally great one though.

Thing is you laughed at me saying Halo 1 was a console successor to Half Life 1, and in that I'm correct. It really doesn't matter if you think of it as just another shooter, which could also be levelled at MoH in the same simplistic terms btw, because in reality it actually took what HL did and brought that to the masses and even improved on some aspects. It deserves it's place on the FPS hall of fame. Just a shame it has stalled as a series in terms of it's roots.
 
Redlambs said:
Brand loyalty to major corps is dumb as feck and is the ultimate show of capitalism at it's best/worst.

Still, it doesn't stop us. My best friend will only ever use Heinz Ketchup and won't even contemplate trying anything else despite me constantly calling her a lunatic. I mean I do get it, it's conditioning one way or another, but god bless I do love that nut job in the same way I kind of tolerate you idiots in here :lol:
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Didn't you know, it doesn't apply to consoles don't worry
 
esmufc07 said:
I’m so loyal to Sony I stayed with Xbox 360 through 3 RROD’s.
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Exactly. People on average bought 7 Xbox 360s each Sony still sold more PS3's. Just shows doesn't it.
 
Alock1 said:
Didn't you know, it doesn't apply to consoles don't worry
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I kind of tolerate this post.


Alock1 said:
Exactly. People on average bought 7 Xbox 360s each Sony still sold more PS3's. Just shows doesn't it.
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I mean, doesn't that just show what we all know that not only are people ridiculous, but they on a whole just don't know how to fix things in a day and age where it's literally walked through for them?
 
Redlambs said:
I mean, doesn't that just show what we all know that not only are people ridiculous, but they on a whole just don't know how to fix things in a day and age where it's literally walked through for them?
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I was just joking about the 7 consoles (for those who weren't 100% sure)

Definitely agree. But I am 100% one of those people. Absolutely useless at anything DIY related and usually just buy a new one whatever it is. I can't be bothered to go through complaints to replace/get fixed usually.
 
Alock1 said:
I was just joking about the 7 consoles (for those who weren't 100% sure)

Definitely agree. But I am 100% one of those people. Absolutely useless at anything DIY related and usually just buy a new one whatever it is. I can't be bothered to go through complaints to replace/get fixed usually.
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Microsoft are paying you too much
 
Alock1 said:
Nice
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Brand loyalty is fecking weird though, especially in tech, and especially when it comes to Apple, who no matter what they do, will always have a bunch of hapless eejits purchase everything they release. But I do think it's largely confined to Apple, they are really the only tech company who can charge what they want for their products and people don't care. That simply doesn't apply to games consoles, the cheaper, more powerful one tends to come out on top. People can argue that Sony built up a lead early on this gen because of their "loyalty" but I'd more pin it down to them having amassed such a vast player base on the PS4 network that once the consoles came out at the same price with not much difference (the Series X is the better machine but lacks a killer feature like dualsense) then people are always going to pick the console that A) their mates and game collections are on and B) they know will have great exclusives based on the previous console they had from that company. I really don't think 99% of people have any sort of love or bias towards Sony like you and others seem to want to claim.
 
Massive Spanner said:
Brand loyalty is fecking weird though, especially in tech, and especially when it comes to Apple, who no matter what they do, will always have a bunch of hapless eejits purchase everything they release. But I do think it's largely confined to Apple, they are really the only tech company who can charge what they want for their products and people don't care. That simply doesn't apply to games consoles, the cheaper, more powerful one tends to come out on top. People can argue that Sony built up a lead early on this gen because of their "loyalty" but I'd more pin it down to them having amassed such a vast player base on the PS4 network that once the consoles came out at the same price with not much difference (the Series X is the better machine but lacks a killer feature like dualsense) then people are always going to pick the console that A) their mates and game collections are on and B) they know will have great exclusives based on the previous console they had from that company. I really don't think 99% of people have any sort of love or bias towards Sony like you and others seem to want to claim.
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Throw in the fact that everything is now coming on PC, if budget it isn't an issue and you aren't against having a PC or gaming on pc there really is no reason at all to own an xbox.
 
Alock1 said:
I was just joking about the 7 consoles (for those who weren't 100% sure)

Definitely agree. But I am 100% one of those people. Absolutely useless at anything DIY related and usually just buy a new one whatever it is. I can't be bothered to go through complaints to replace/get fixed usually.
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It didn't matter if you could fix them. The way they soldered the CPUs it was a losing battle. I remember doing the towel trick etc....
 
I wish it was a thing that was just confined to Apple but unfortunately it's true across almost everything.

Just look at what brands most people buy from Tesco which are exactly the same ingredients as their Value or Aldi counterparts for 4x less money.

Not everybody can take the piss and get away with it, but being predisposed to buying one brand unless (overwhelming) evidence the other way.
 
afrocentricity said:
It didn't matter if you could fix them. The way they soldered the CPUs it was a losing battle. I remember doing the towel trick etc....
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I did the towel trick many a time too! About as far as I'm willing to go.
 
Why did Sony bother with spending millions on building a very strong Playstation brand if there is no impact on sales? I'm curious.
 
Imagine thinking brand loyalty isn’t at play here, in this thread, with Afro, boswhduuc, Damien, Elvis and their posts, when they clearly own the worse of the two consoles :lol:
 
El General 1994 said:
Just a quick reminder - Starfield is exclusive on platforms that host Game Pass.
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People are putting a lot of faith in a new IP developed by a studio with a pretty poor track record for the last 10 years, who haven't developed a new IP in eons. I'd rate the chances of it being a disappointment higher than it being a success at this point.
 
They're both great consoles which means it should be a really good, competitive gen. Sony made a balls of things two gens ago and MS made such a balls of last gen that it gave Sony an insurmountable lead. I'm just glad both companies have released two excellent, powerful machines at competitive prices and are both now heavily pushing exclusives rather than other shit, it's good for the consumer no matter which they buy. If I didn't have a good gaming PC i'd probably own both by now.
 
Massive Spanner said:
They're both great consoles which means it should be a really good, competitive gen. Sony made a balls of things two gens ago and MS made such a balls of last gen that it gave Sony an insurmountable lead. I'm just glad both companies have released two excellent, powerful machines are competitive prices and are both now heavily pushing exclusives rather than other shit, it's good for the consumer no matter which they buy.
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This.

But PC > all. mwahahaha!
 
Ainu said:
People are putting a lot of faith in a new IP developed by a studio with a pretty poor track record for the last 10 years, who haven't developed a new IP in eons. I'd rate the chances of it being a disappointment higher than it being a success at this point.
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You've got a good point - but as a Xbot (at long last) we got something exclusive to be disappointed in!
 
Massive Spanner said:
They're both great consoles which means it should be a really good, competitive gen. Sony made a balls of things two gens ago and MS made such a balls of last gen that it gave Sony an insurmountable lead. I'm just glad both companies have released two excellent, powerful machines at competitive prices and are both now heavily pushing exclusives rather than other shit, it's good for the consumer no matter which they buy. If I didn't have a good gaming PC i'd probably own both by now.
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All joking aside this is bang on. Sony need a good Microsoft to challenge them - we've seen them become arrogant. Microsoft need to learn from Sony with their quality exclusives and it looks like they will take heed based on their internal review of The Last of Us Part 2.
 
El General 1994 said:
All joking aside this is bang on. Sony need a good Microsoft to challenge them - we've seen them become arrogant. Microsoft need to learn from Sony with their quality exclusives and it looks like they will take heed based on their internal review of The Last of Us Part 2.
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Can a loss be a win? Always, according to the Xboners.
 
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