Glazers must love how passive the supposed "true united fans" are, and their love of ridiculing anyone who isn't from Manchester.
Protests planned for the match on Sunday?
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If its to get the Glazers' out then fair enough, if its to get Ole out then no thanks.
I haven't seen anything on here to warrant all these 'Top Red' posts.
Are you a 'Top Red' if you don't support the protest? And who has been ridiculed for not being from Manchester?
Aye mate 2005 was a piece of piss for them wasn't it. Passive Utd fans, christ almighty.
Honestly a big portion of posters on here haven't the slightest clue. So detached from Utd fan culture and feeling it would be embarrassing if it wasn't so irrelevant.
Where there is smoke, there is always fire.
To be fair not everyone was old enough to remember 2005 as clearly. I was 16 and didn’t really have much awareness of why the takeover was bad. I remember the green and gold protest but again it’s 16 years ago and it feels quite vague now.
It would certainly make Nevilles claims that ‘the fans won’t turn against him’ look more ridiculous. That narrative is so stupid. As if just because the fans are not compete dicks to a club legend means they are behind him.
I do think fans need to make more noise about what our standards are. The club seems to think top 4 and a decent cup run is good enough.
We need to be sacking managers who make top 4 but don’t challenge for the title. We need to sack managers who lose semi finals to Arsenal and Leicester and Sevilla. We need to sack managers who lose to Villareal in a European final. We need to sack managers who lose 0-5 to our biggest rivals and 0-2 to our cross town rivals.
Real Madrid appointed the Spanish national team manager during the Euros or World Cup causing him to lose that job. They then sacked him after what 10 games? They’re ruthless. Now there is obviously extreme ends of that scale but we as a club are so soft. We have no ambition. It’s sad to see.
How does that make it personal? Does Ole suddenly own the club? Suddenly the Man United manager post is his personal life? Ridiculous.
Top reds have cost us and this club so much post glazers and Sir Alex. So easily manipulated by the glazers to believe any vocal criticism of a manager in blasphemy. Glazers are doubling down on Ole because they don't want to pay him out, pay another manager who might not be a yes man or be proved wrong in their decision.
You could be a mindless drone and go to games and sing ole at the wheel or actually do something. Ole is not above the club. Fans want a new manager and they have a right, and should be encouraged, to protest. You've been brainwashed by billionaires and top reds if you think it's off limits
Its your football team. If they are shit even when they shouldn't be you get on with supporting it.
Being owned by a bunch of parasites and bankers who may run it into into ground is a different matter entirely.
Being owned by a bunch of parasites and bankers who may run it into into ground is a different matter entirely.
The Glazers hit the jackpot with our fans. We're way too patient and it's led us to an almost decade in wilderness
So Mason Greenwood, Jadon Sancho -- they're careers can go down the drain because of a manager who is clueless and we can't say anything about it either?
We are passive and over loyal when it comes to our own. Glazers are smart. They saw that and hired ole to throw us a bone and it's proving right.
No words for this bollocks I am out. Just clueless.
At this point, I’m convinced loads of the people wanting to protest now are the same people that were crying about the Liverpool game being called off last season. To even wonder if people are going to be breaking into the stadium on Saturday shows how little some understand about the previous protest vs this one, and the difference between the people involved.
I honestly don’t even know what to say at this point.Complete and utter nonsense
He is on a board - not the board (both him and Charlton are "directors" but they're not executive directors, it's more of an honorary title than anything).
The actual board - the one that makes decisions - have zero "football people" on it (see above).
There's very little evidence that SAF has been hands-on in anything since he retired. Did he play a part in getting Ronaldo to sign? Sure, he probably did - but if the board had been against the signing, there's no way SAF would've been able to force it through (and he wouldn't have tried for that matter - again, he clearly made a choice not to get involved too heavily after he retired, and it seems like he's largely stuck to that).
In short, blaming him for anything is far fetched.
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More probably a PR stunt by the club to get support for Ole. To show to the fans he has the support of SAF. If so it may have backfired as now people are blaming SAF for Ole being still the Manager.
I think a lot of people would be shocked by how many fans now want him out. It is getting very heated and if we do not win against Watford, the shite is going to hit the fan.
Feck yeah! MufcBen9 and his 2000 followers will sort it all out.
Better than doing feck all
Haven’t the internet virgins tried to organise this shit a few times before? Then the proper locals turned up for Liverpool last year and showed them how it’s done instead of sitting behind a computer 2000 miles away telling the hardcore they should be throwing bricks at Ole’s car.
Remind me, what is a Top Red?
Someone who goes to games and tries to support the team.
Pertinent question, given how easily it's thrown around these days.
Back in the day a "top red" used to be someone who considered themselves a better fan than everyone else, a representative of "proper" fandom, a bit of a twat - really - who would accuse "lesser" fans of being "plastic" (or whatever term was in fashion at the time).
Someone who - simply - supported the club (or even the manager, or the players, or anyone else associated with Manchester United) unconditionally wasn't a "top red". The latter term implied a false sense of being better than other, lesser fans.
In short, refusing to turn on the manager would not make anyone a "top red". Just a...fan, I guess. Naturally, it was much easier to...not turn on the manager when said manager was Alex Ferguson (for a quarter of a century). But in principle I don't think anything should have changed all that dramatically: accusing fellow fans of being "top reds" just because they sing Ole's name at Old Trafford (or are reluctant to set his house on fire) really doesn't make much sense if we're going by the traditional "top red" definition.
Oh, okay. I'm not a match goer so that rules me out of being a top red.
Pity.
Or maybe not.
At least @shamans can't hold me responsible for breaking the club. Get in!
'Top Red' used as a derogatory term is a Redcafe thing. It used to describe fans who followed United home and away.
Then it was used as an insult to fans on Redcafe who didn't want Fergie sacked during our relative dry period. Entitled United fans? Never.
Then it was used as an insult to fans on Redcafe who didn't want Fergie sacked during our relative dry period. Entitled United fans? Never.
Reality hurts but Ole was an appeasement signing. After Jose they needed a yes man and someone who has media cover (Garry Neville/Top Reds)
Someone who thinks showing discontent at millions being wasted, players careers being ruined is being "classless".
When was this? The peak of our relatively dry period would be 2006 January. There is a thread from then about some crappy guardian article saying Sir Alex is losing some fan support. It's been laughed and ridiculed at. I myself do not remember a single time on here when sacking Fergie wasn't brought up as joke or some newbie comment.
I think it was during the Arsenal Invisibles. It was first used in a derogatory manner by a poster who wanted Fergie sacked - he was banned multiple times on here. It's just a Redcafe thing. At the same time a phrase was coined to mock the entitled brigade - 'Sack Fergie, sell Giggs'. I've been on here far too long....
Love how some get their knickers in a twist over this.
Lose 5-0 against Austria Vienna and the Rapid fans would storm the fecking pitch over here and we have a legend (one that was actually one of our very best players) as manager too.
And people start crying over some protests about the way this club is going to the shitter.
Lose 5-0 against Austria Vienna and the Rapid fans would storm the fecking pitch over here and we have a legend (one that was actually one of our very best players) as manager too.
And people start crying over some protests about the way this club is going to the shitter.
So it’s not true then. Or if it is. What it meant then is clearly not what it means now. Which happens a lot with most phrases.
Its the Brexit effect. We are keeping United United again.
Seems a bit regrettable that a once-positive term has been thus perverted needlessly.
Maybe a caf-poll for a new pejorative and then reinstate 'Top Red' to its former usage. Or just a context-based all out civil war on the caf for the soul of its usage. Spoondog is a top red.
#takingitback.
We'll give it a go. Hungry is a top red - he's not an entitled muppet.
#takingitback.
Won’t be long before match going fans start fighting amongst each other. The club is in an absolutely sorry state.
It was happening Saturday
I don’t think there is any point in comparing ultra culture to football culture in the UK, but if you’re going to, I think one of the main issues people have with this is the type of protest is that we can all see it’s going to be an embarrassment, given the people trying to organise it. It’s about as far removed from ultra’s storming the pitch as you can get.
I could never protest against Ole. I have a ST and go regularly. It would be damn shameful to boo a man that has steered us in the right direction and helped contribute greatly to 99.
Yes Ole should probably leave now, but to boo the man because he's had a bad start is disgraceful and shows an utter lack of respect for what good he's done at the club.
Boo and protest the glazers all you want but I could never do that to Ole, he deserves to bow out with some dignity at the very least.
Yes Ole should probably leave now, but to boo the man because he's had a bad start is disgraceful and shows an utter lack of respect for what good he's done at the club.
Boo and protest the glazers all you want but I could never do that to Ole, he deserves to bow out with some dignity at the very least.
