Silva
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the third precinct was no angel
I have to confess I'm not seeing your point. If white people weren't joining in and there were only black people rioting I don't see how the black community would get any less of the blame.
They want to stop being killed not fecking look good.Who said it's easy? But the alternative is looking bad to the public audience. So you want to go the hard route or the route that makes you look bad?
Yes, it happens. Occupy wallstreet was a great example for that. Yet, some protests manage to remain peaceful without looting and burning cars happening and others don't. And when it happens, it make these protestors look bad. Or would you disagree about it making the protests look bad?
For now I assume you wouldn't. So what should protestors do? Get actually together and organise themselves to make a more reasonably protest that make more people want to agree with what they protest for. Everything else is harming their cause.
Who said it's easy? But the alternative is looking bad to the public audience. So you want to go the hard route or the route that makes you look bad?
They escalated the violence by treating the protesters differently to the ones that went into government buildings protesting lockdowns armed to the teeth.If that indeed happened, then police should be criticised for it. Hands down and no questions asked.
But this isn't math. Two wrongs don't make a right. You can actually criticise both sides.
If it weren't for the supposed sensation-value of headlines like '100 Killed in riot', newspapers - so often the platforms of the wealthy - would instead routinely lead with '£10M-worth of rioting damage...oh, and some plebs killed'. It would be more honest, regarding the priorities.if you care even a little bit about property damage in response to a long series of racially motivated murders you're a fecking racist
"A bad name" to me is about perception. There might be a language barrier but I didn't quote you without genuinely thinking you were talking about that.I was never discussing that and you are the one who quoted my point... I was discussing the reality of the world people of color live in and the consequences/repercussions etc
Which is why I said, I don't believe white people joining in with riots and looting is helpful.
But this isn't math. Two wrongs don't make a right. You can actually criticise both sides.
Or the public audience could realise that there's a possibility of people who aren't involved in the protest using it as a chance to mess about.Who said it's easy? But the alternative is looking bad to the public audience. So you want to go the hard route or the route that makes you look bad?
To paraphrase ironically: it's the only language conservative leaders truly understand, due to their historical familiarity.Riots however I think can be a protest when the peaceful way of protesting isn't heard.
Not sure i agree with this.if you care even a little bit about property damage in response to a long series of racially motivated murders you're a fecking racist
if you care even a little bit about property damage in response to a long series of racially motivated murders you're a fecking racist
Thanks for this post, it cleared up another misunderstanding.So that makes it ok for them to join in? With no consequence to themselves but the consequence to the people who they say they are helping? Right...
I'm simply saying protest and fight for us, don't join in with the looting etc, its not helpful. I think my point is clear whether you agree or not.
It’s interesting that you’re so quick to jump to blaming black people for everything.
if you care even a little bit about property damage in response to a long series of racially motivated murders you're a fecking racist
Yep. That poster has, in the last few weeks alone, written some of the absolute worst posts I've ever read on here.Like clockwork. You’re the same poster who said that Ahmaud Arbery was just as much as a threat to the two white men who shot him as he was standing within ‘fist swinging’ range of them so it’s no surprise you are in here spouting bullshit. Btw what are your thoughts of the killing of George Floyd itself, was he still a threat while his neck was being crushed by the officer’s knee?
It’s pretty clear what this poster is, judging by their posts throughout the forum
Yea thats a big issue with it, but there really isnt another way that seems viable?I don't know the full story, but I will always feel sorry when innocent poor people are victims of property damage. To them it's not just a minor economic setback.
Apart from that: I love a good riot.
"A bad name" to me is about perception. There might be a language barrier but I didn't quote you without genuinely thinking you were talking about that.
I agree that looters aren't helpful, obviously and are just opportunists trying to earn on the situation. Riots however I think can be a protest when the peaceful way of protesting isn't heard.
Joining the riots might not be helpful, but I can understand why they do so when they otherwise might feel powerless to get changes to come.
Despite being as white as snow and living far away from the US, and not having had to deal with any of your problems in any sort of way personally I still get infuriated by seeing how many times these things happen. Where I live we tend to just look at each other when we read these sort of news and shrug our shoulders while exclaiming "murica being murica".
So that makes it ok for them to join in? With no consequence to themselves but the consequence to the people who they say they are helping? Right...
I'm simply saying protest and fight for us, don't join in with the looting etc, its not helpful. I think my point is clear whether you agree or not.
if you care even a little bit about property damage in response to a long series of racially motivated murders you're a fecking racist
CNN crew members arrested.
Yes that's itI think I get you now. White looters aren't so much adding to the fire as getting away without being burned.
wtf?! just seen the video.CNN crew members arrested.
it wasn't affordable housing, it was gentrified "affordable housing" where a small stock has been promised for "slightly below average 2 incomes" or for people on $43k/yr, this is just part of the "they're destroying things at random" propaganda that comes with every riot, even target wasn't looted until they refused to sell people milk they can use for tear gar.An example being the affordable housing that was burnt to the ground.
No idea .Studio seems baffled.Really what for?
They are not mutually exclusive. What an unbelievably stupid post.if you care even a little bit about property damage in response to a long series of racially motivated murders you're a fecking racist
Priorities.CNN crew members arrested.
Link? Whats going on?wtf?! just seen the video.
Its these sorts of posts that move the whole conversation away from the actual point of the discussion because posters then have defend why they arent racist for not wanting to see damage to innocent peoples livelihoods.They are not mutually exclusive. What an unbelievably stupid post.
Unbelievable. And 100% on Trump and his war against CNN.
That can't be fecking legal?
I thought the bbc shutting down your newsnight doll the other day was bad, flip me!
All he is doing is reporting the news?