Glazer apologists?
Protest at Old Trafford
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I know you're not asking me but I'd have thought everyone unanimously condemns the protestors who went too far. Of course that does not condemn the protest itself.
Jesus! What a crap attitude
Yeah sounds very much like Murtough & Arnold are a big part of the problem and as for that joker just rolled out on SSN
Campaigns are only successful if there is buy in from all stakeholders. The dissenters criticising the protest are not helping us, and by extension are prolonging the shit regime of the Glazers.
There’s a couple of plastic clubs playing the first EL Plastico CL final soon. Still time to switch allegiances and stop the rot
There’s a couple of plastic clubs playing the first EL Plastico CL final soon. Still time to switch allegiances and stop the rot
Sure but then it’s been clear for a couple of years that even the structure of the club is improving. It’s not the popular narrative but we have a good manager, we have just brought in the long awaited DOF, we have a transfer committee that have largely been spot on in recent years, we have the best youth products in world football and those signs are beginning to show on the pitch too. This is the worst possible time to start arguing against the structure considering we have put up with years of crap and then we want to tear it all down just as we appear to have got it right.
I’d accept most of that is in spite of the owners but surely this isn’t the time to be asking for more upheaval on the football side.
Yeah, so you are fine with leveraging earned wealth into success and even more wealth, eventually growing into a position that cannot be challenged by anyone but those who invest in football for questionable reasons? Is this fundamentally different from the idea of the ESL?
Could anyone kindly bring me up to speed with events? Been busy with work. Just searching through, finding small pieces of the puzzle. Summary would be greatly appreciated.
I agree with the agenda but perhaps not some of the methods. All for vociferous protest outside the ground but not the we decide when you play bit.
Glazers need to do the following, imo:
1. Install a proper football person as CEO
2. Invest in OT
3. Invest in the squad so we challenge for the league and CL next season
4. Take fan group input on board for major decisions. They don't have to follow it but at least consider it
Ironic as that is the ownership many people want us to have...
I see the same suspects are covering themselves in glory in here tonight. Telling Manchester based fans what's what and showing them how they should be supporting their local football club.
I'm not wasting my evening getting sucked into the same rows with the same dildos I spent all last week rowing with. I'll just say I'm proud as feck of our fans in Manchester again tonight. Fair play to ye lads.
I'm not wasting my evening getting sucked into the same rows with the same dildos I spent all last week rowing with. I'll just say I'm proud as feck of our fans in Manchester again tonight. Fair play to ye lads.
Insulting another member
We were a business before the Glazers and will be after they're gone.
Where were all you self-rightous knobheads protesting when we were first listed?
The club is not improving out of design. They fell on Ole as a manager and they actually under-invested in the summer just went. You can argue they bought Maguire a year late, they certainly bought Bruno 6 months too late. They still haven't worked on the stadium wear and tear, they haven't focused enough on the women's football, etc. And they still don't have a proper DoF with warranted pedigree. They are looking at Arnold to replace Woodward as CEO. How are you not reading these warning signs?
Just because we are run a bit less shite compared to 2 years ago when we were complete shite, doesn't mean that it's going to get better and better. The Glazers just got caught spearheading a move that would lose football as we know it, let alone the club. That tells you that the last 2 years of prettier pictures is a all circumstantial shite. They want the bottom line $. That's all.
Everything Joel mentioned in his letter.
The starting of them permanently clearing their debt so we don't have to pay it off a third time over( This would take time)
But he claims he cares about football so it's in his apparent interest.
Commiting to actually communicating on a regular basis (5-10 times a season maybe)? about the Football clubs direction.
Bringing a CEO who isn't one of their Pals who helped saddle the club in debt. Preferably one who has been a CEO at a previously successful football club.
There are many things they can and should do.
Fixing OT being another but if I'm honest I think that would just be trying to get us to shut up. Same with any major signings. I simply don't trust their motives when so much of what they do files in the face of trying to succeed.
So automatically, the petro dollar fuelled clubs will just disappear and we’ll dominate? Just because we can spend what we earn?
Ignore him he said United fans deserved to be beat up the other day, he’s probably a copper
Are you seriously comparing the wealth Manchester United have EARNED through decades of success and hard work through people like Busby and Sir Alex to the leveraged buyout those leaches forced upon us?
The two things couldn’t be further apart.
And none of us wanted the SL. Except those same leaches.
To be fair, even the great Brian Moore could occasionally come out with something like "after a goalless first half, the score is nil-nil"
We where both and that's the key difference. Your a bit of a knob mate.
Same applies to them. Are you comfortable with the idea of a few super clubs running away from the rest?
Well the MUST representative says they would be tolerant of the GLazers if more money goes back into the club... What would the club be spending this on long term?
We are seriously fecked and so many are still blind to it 16 years on from the first time they bent us over.
It's maddening.
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Some blokes tried to cancel the game by blocking Liverpool coach getting to the ground. Failed. We'd got there much earlier in separate cars using decoy buses to outsmart the protesters.
There is also a peaceful (I think) protest outside Old Trafford.
I don't know and CBA going back
Can't we all just get behind the team tonight and be friends though.
Scouse rats are in town.
Yeh fair enough and I don’t really disagree with any of that. I’m still not convinced that is cancelling games, potentially losing points and millions in sponsorship will have the desired effect though. I think it’s more likely to make us the next Arsenal.
Sycophant.
Ive been on the caf for years. You become the first person i have ever put on ignore.
This I can agree on!
If they communicated more or less the above plus a promise to keep dividends aligned to consider footballing achievements, I don't think we'd see as many protests. But they just promised empty words, as Gary said, the Glazers don't know how to communicate with the fans. And a big part of the escalation here.
Never did that. I compared it to joining the ESL which is based on the same idea that a few super clubs have earned the reputation and therefore the rights to earn more.
Protest crew turned up, but security much improved.
United in at about 2pm.
"Dummy" coaches and routes used.
Game on.
They already do our best to make us the next Arsenal. No one can know what if anything will help the club be run better.
The point is that it's better to try and better the club by going out swinging.
Silence is pathetic. Atleast to me. Would rather our voices heard even if it achieved nothing.
The Glazers don't deserve to have it easy at the very least
No, anyone who’s a Glazer lover is a Glazer lover
Is there a protest going on?
No, I used a single club model just to make my point because ultimately this is about Manchester United for me. But you can apply the same argument to the rest...would you be comfortable with a few clubs creating an unassailable chasm based on financial power? Is that any different from the ESL?
Great work by @laughtersassassin constructively swatting away the swathes of naysayers.