Protest at Old Trafford

So so tempting to break the "attack the post not the poster" rule :lol: Go grab some beer you miserable human.

Dont break the rule
Don’t break the rule
Don’t break the rule
…..ahhh feck it “Go grab some beer you miserable human.”

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Fans wanting to watch their team play a game of football, absolute shocker :eek:

The game will go ahead. Everyone up in arms assuming it's not for little reason.

The club where stupidly underpreared for the first protest.

Most of the Manchester Police force are their tonight.

I don't want the game to be called off but if it was it wouldn't worry me that much. I'm more concerned about our long term future under the leeches we call owners.
 
I lived in Manchester for years, I’ve been to countless games. Don’t start top redding me. I’m also not a fecking idiot who doesn’t realise there’s no magical way out of this. There’s no superman owner on the horizon. Fans made their voices heard last time and I have no problem with continued protests outside the ground to keep it that way, but getting games cancelled, calling for the club to lose points, disrupting the our players, that goes against the very essence of support and frankly is more damaging than the glaziers anyway.
You certainly don't post like someone who affiliates with what the protestors are trying to do. There is a strong sense of realism among a lot of them, rather than just blindly asking to sell to anyone. The general ask is to have better representation, better investment as a bare minimum, better transparency. Even if Glazers stay at the helm, wholesale infrastructure changes are required and better representation is demanded along with more investment. Games getting postponed means feck all in the bigger context, and the club won't lose points for reasons I've already given.
 
The point is they are shite owners. They don't give two shits. Have us up to our eyes in their debt. That we will be paying off forever. It's as high today as when it started yet we have nearly paid it off two times over.

Are the fans misguided? No they are correct.

Yes, the fans are right about the owners but are they right about the club needing all that money? Do we really not have enough to do what we need even at the highest level?
 
A few absolute cry babies in this thread. Complaining about people who actually bothered turning up and continuing the protest. Well done to the protesters. Keep it up guys!
 
Yes, the fans are right about the owners but are they right about the club needing all that money? Do we really not have enough to do what we need even at the highest level?

We don't have the right people running the club, they don't care enough to hire the right people.

Almost Every aspect of Football club ownership they are bad at. This is not simply about money.
 
We have so many idiots and brainless thugs calling themselves United fans. If it carries on then United should be made to either play away from Old Trafford all season or play in empty stadiums even when fans are allowed back.

Its just embarrassing
You want to close a 75k stadium because 10 blokes decided to slash the wheels of a decoy bus?
 
For anyone upset by the protests, the director of communications was just on SkySports, and was grilled on when the communication will improve, like Joel Glazer said.

His answer was pretty much "he will be there at the fan forum, and after that we will need to see".

So quite evidently, there is feck all plan to actually improve on communication to fans.
 
You certainly don't post like someone who affiliates with what the protestors are trying to do. There is a strong sense of realism among a lot of them, rather than just blindly asking to sell to anyone. The general ask is to have better representation, better investment as a bare minimum, better transparency. Even if Glazers stay at the helm, wholesale infrastructure changes are required and better representation is demanded along with more investment. Games getting postponed means feck all in the bigger context, and the club won't lose points for reasons I've already given.
That’s all well and good but then the second the glaziers try and put out an olive branch those very same protesters couldn’t care less and would still rather burn the whole place to the ground. Look I’m not a fan of our ownership and I never will be, but you only have to look around the other clubs in this league to see it can be far far worse and I’m not naive enough to think there will be some magical solution. The best we can hope for is some government intervention but id have to see that to believe it.
 
For anyone upset by the protests, the director of communications was just on SkySports, and was grilled on when the communication will improve, like Joel Glazer said.

His answer was pretty much "he will be there at the fan forum, and after that we will need to see".

So quite evidently, there is feck all plan to actually improve on communication to fans.
And then the time to continue protesting is if that doesn’t happen surely. So now we are protesting things that may or may not happen?
 
For anyone upset by the protests, the director of communications was just on SkySports, and was grilled on when the communication will improve, like Joel Glazer said.

His answer was pretty much "he will be there at the fan forum, and after that we will need to see".

So quite evidently, there is feck all plan to actually improve on communication to fans.

he spoke so much shite
 
That’s all well and good but then the second the glaziers try and put out an olive branch those very same protesters couldn’t care less and would still rather burn the whole place to the ground. Look I’m not a fan of our ownership and I never will be, but you only have to look around the other clubs in this league to see it can be far far worse and I’m not naive enough to think there will be some magical solution. The best we can hope for is some government intervention but id have to see that to believe it.

Your naïve if you are choosing to believe a word of that note.

Actions are needed not words.

If not then they should rightfully piss off.

I guarantee you the whole point of the letter was false promises to try calm the storm.
 
That’s all well and good but then the second the glaziers try and put out an olive branch those very same protesters couldn’t care less and would still rather burn the whole place to the ground. Look I’m not a fan of our ownership and I never will be, but you only have to look around the other clubs in this league to see it can be far far worse and I’m not naive enough to think there will be some magical solution. The best we can hope for is some government intervention but id have to see that to believe it.
Yes, because the Glazers have always been shit with communication, they've always given empty promises and they can feck off until they show action. Just now the Director of Communication, Charlie Brook, was asked WHEN the communication will improve. Easy question to demonstrate the framework to improve the representation of fans in the decision making of the club.

His answer was a pile of wank, so yes, they will quite rightly continue protesting regardless of what the Glazers say.

Also I think the Glazers are worse owners than what City have, Chelsea have, even what Spurs have. Heck, you can argue its worse than Fenway on top. They had a decade of no footballing personnel in a technical director role for fecksake. Our roof is broken, our womens set up was far too late and it's clearly not adequate. Our academy was far from adequate for a long while. You can't get much worse ownership than that at top level.
 
I have said it's fair enough to want the Glazers to stop taking money. So this isn't about the motives of the protest. It's about what happens after.

My point is, does having that much money help Manchester United but at the detriment of the game? Could Utd then become another Bayern/PSG and turn the Premier League into a farmers league solely based on having much more financial firepower than anyone else? Would such an outcome be in line with the current arguments made against the anti-football that the ESL represents?

I see the argument that says oh well, we earned this, and it's not our problem what happens to other clubs. But that's exactly what a hyper capitalist would say, isn't it?

You might have missed them but Chelsea and Man City are actually in our league. Something tells me there's not much danger of United becoming some kind of Bayern purely because of wealth.