Steve Austin would be perfect
Protest at Old Trafford
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Exactly and everyone knows this. No one wants criminal damage or anyone to get hurt, United fans as a collective just want the Glazers gone.
Chances are those that caused trouble might not even be united fans but just scumbags in the area, similar to what we saw with London riots all those years ago with copycat groups forming.
Well done to everyone involved in this today. They should release a statement stating that they will prevent all future games at Old trafford taking place until the Glazers are out.
Yeah, to be honest it sounds like its getting ugly which is worrying, and isn't going to achieve anything good.
I wonder will they try and get it played at a neutral ground tomorrow?
Sky will be pissed as this was a big money spinner with advertisers
Where is that happening?
This wont help matters we could be docked points. We wont get rid of the Glazers because the FA and UEFA dont care about our plight. I have no problem with ESL if they support the big clubs, they can't we any worse than the current mob.
Souness fantasizing about becoming Two Face from a fan flare is hilarious.
Lowry and in the surrounding areas
Anyone throwing a flare or any object like bottles or beer cans should be banned for life.
Keep it peaceful.
Keep it peaceful.
Getting a game cancelled will hopefully push the Glazers a little closer towards the exit door.
Are we sure this is footage from today?
I've seen no mention of it on Sky and both Gary and Carragher said from what they saw the protest was peaceful.
Surely, they would have mentioned this?
Promote this guy.
I don't understand how some people seem to condone any action so long as there is a "reason" behind it. I bet most of those people in the protest don't even care about Manutd; they just care about causing trouble. It is weird how people fall for this.
How does harassing people in their cars, vandalising property, breaking and entering, injuring police officers, throwing bottles, firing flares give these people a leg to stand on? I know people take firing fireworks and flares as a bit of a joke, but if they hit someone, it can cause severe burning. People are supporting scum to get rid of owners of a football club.
Put it into a bit of perspective: people are supporting violence and crime for the sake of football. Madness.
How does harassing people in their cars, vandalising property, breaking and entering, injuring police officers, throwing bottles, firing flares give these people a leg to stand on? I know people take firing fireworks and flares as a bit of a joke, but if they hit someone, it can cause severe burning. People are supporting scum to get rid of owners of a football club.
Put it into a bit of perspective: people are supporting violence and crime for the sake of football. Madness.
I doubt it. We may have lost any prospect of us playing Fulham in front of fans though. We have to expect some form of punishment.
The ones at the Lowry are still not allowing the players and the coaches to leave.
Well played to him. This is far bigger than club rivalry; it's even bigger than football; it's about how global capitalism operates and devours everything, destroying communities for the enrichment of a small group of ruthless, amoral plutocrats.
3 days before is no problem.
Surely you understand Mon to Thur is no different to Sat to Tue, or Sun to Wed?
The most they have is 3 options
- Play it tomorrow (easiest choice)
- Move it to the saturday we have free, but Liverpool have another fixture, by moving that fixture to this midweek
- Squeeze one of our games on a day, and shoehorn it in 2 days before hand, compromising all 3 games
Fans have nothing to do with them owning the club. There were protests when we were in CL finals and winning the league every other year
???? That's not what happened. There was a peaceful protest, and a single entity did something stupid.
I saw someone throw a bottle during the World Cup when I was in Russia, maybe England Dan's should stop attacking people and just watch football?
No, it's a minority. Focus on the point.
Personally I think this is long overdue. So what if a few have stormed the stadium and hung from the goalposts. This needed maximum attention and they’ve achieved it. Unfortunate..but necessary.
peaceful protests won’t achieve anything
peaceful protests won’t achieve anything
The argument is still ‘sell to anyone even though we have no idea if anyone wants to buy or what the intentions are of those who might’
Until that issue is addressed then it’s always going to be fatal to the long term success and sustainability of any protest. In 2006, 2011 and today. Its the huge elephant in the room too many get angry and defensive when you point it out
Until that issue is addressed then it’s always going to be fatal to the long term success and sustainability of any protest. In 2006, 2011 and today. Its the huge elephant in the room too many get angry and defensive when you point it out
As an Indian I'm sick and tired of hearing this nonsense that somehow we magically got our independence non violently. FOR CHANGING ANY STATUS QUO, YOU NEED FORCEFUL ACTION.
No India didn't get independence non-violently, nothing major gets done that way. I'm not in any way condoning major violence, but you can't just sit around and expect change to occur.
Because it was fine when the future of him and his employer were threatened. That's (temporarily) over, so Sky can revert back to being part of the problem.
wind up???
Graeme Souness made it sound like the storming of the beaches at Normandy.
The Lowry was cleared of protesters hours ago???
as always so many rules for protestors. If the precondition of every protest was that no unfortunately or I'll advised even occur then we'd pretty much have to do away with protests and a voice for the public. This is the problem with how people see protests. You poke people, strip them of their rights and treat them like garbage and then want them to protest in a way that's convenient to you (not you) , or better yet, not at all. Violence must condemned of course but at the same time the protest and anger of fans just be understood.If this wasn't at OT nobody would have cared. Just like nobody cared about the "masked men" who supposedly entered Woodward's home again
Probably had a lot more viewers watching just to see what's going on.
A lot were not even wearing masks, so you would think a lot could be easily picked out.
Roy Keane as quoted by BBC:
But there lies the issue with “Defund the police” - only the extreme far left are the ones saying get rid of all police but that’s what the media and fake news on social media pushes what the movement supossedly
The sensible argument that most believe in is are the police are a flawed institution. They need to be re-structured and divert funding to more applicable uses. I have sympathy in you have minimally trained Officers who can go from having to deal with riots, domestic abuse incidents, dealing with violent offenders, dealing with homeless, dealing with victims of X/Y/Z - their scope of responsibilities is an impossible task.
Look there’s a whole slew of other reasons behind police behaviour, opposition to them etc that’s far too much for a simple forum post. But the above paragraph is the gist. “Defund the police” is about restructuring and refocusing responsibilities and funding, let the police have a smaller defined scope and have other areas be dealt with by properly funded and trained people.
The biggest barrier to arranging fixtures is arranging policing. Virtually zero chance Greater Manchester Police have any interest in roll-calling the number of police required to have this game go ahead tomorrow at 24 hours’ notice.
Yep. Collective Action gets the goods.
Theyre very angry about this on bluemoon
I was convinced that the Father Ted award for finest sign of the day award had been sewn up by the "Joes Glazer Stinks of Piss" effort, but then someone rocks up with this masterpiece:
It's from today.
It is a good point but it is not an elephant in the room. It is regularly discussed on the forums and people generally want fan ownership.