Protest at Old Trafford

The craziest part about all this is that I am really liking Jamie Carragher right now!
 
Carragher talking more sense than some people in here. Scousers must be hating him now :lol:
 
good stuff. who cares if they take points. who actually cares. we were this close to having the club entirely taken away. the government are toothless. this might be toothless too but at least a message to the whole world and to the sponsors that united is toxic.

city fans make me laugh, very happy with the status quo
 
TheReligion said:
You've got no idea about what's been going on or what disorder is.

Look beyond the TV.
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That's been some distasteful stuff that I've seen being spoken about else where which is awful, I've not denied bad stuff has happened? I'm not happy about that aspect of things at all. I just don't think you can call what happened a riot?
 
Maciek said:
Invading the ground is a riot.

I wouldn't say a word had the fans just made it harder for teams to enter the stadium etc. Vandalism, violence and destroying the stadium they all love is like a riot, sorry.
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Seriously... Destroying the stadium? What damage was actually done? Corner flag? What else, a flare thrown in empty stands? What is the damage done, £100?

The ground was not invaded by force or anything like that, the gates were fecking open because even though everyone knew there will be protests today, the Glazer penny pinching policy means they couldn't even afford to pay for damn security.

Well done to everyone (except a few idiots) who made it happen today. It is a huge statement, postponing one of the biggest games in world football doesn't happen every day, there will be a ton of media coverage on it and the Glazers will be mentioned a fecking lot in a negative way. Is it enough for them to sell the club? Most likely not but it's a start, we just cannot stop now and who knows, maybe it will happen. The protest was mostly peaceful today with a few idiots going too far but it's always bound to happen with thousands of people involved.
 
I applaud the peaceful elements of the protest but do not forget that 90% of them and you are complicit in the footing the Glazers have. The slogan was green and gold until we're solid right? How long ago was that? And what happened, they bought your silence with success and because they had Ferguson on side. I'd love to hear his thoughts on their ownership model.
 
NK86 said:
Has a club been docked points for fans' behavior. That's the question you have to ask.
Also it's mainly the responsibility of the stewards to maintain decorum. Not sure the club has the man power to impose any sort curbs on protests outside the ground or even within it if a large crowd comes.
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Remember Liverpool fans literally planning an attack on the Manchester city team bus in the champions League and nothing happened.
 
Fair fecks to Jamie Carragher. Someone buy that man a beer.
 
DoubleDinhos said:
Anyone who is taking the moral high ground against these protests don't care about your fans feeling against the owners, they couldn't care less whether the Glazers owned you or didn't. It's good to see them show their a*se about it. You've been protesting the owners for a decade on and off, peaceful protest has led you nowhere. Anyone with any bit of investment in fans actually having some ownership over the game is on the side of youse.

Fair play to your boys. I'm fully behind you lot. Wish Liverpool fans had a bit of this about them at the moment.
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Great post. Cheers mate.
 
Can't believe some posters are calling this a riot. What the hell. May I add I like Jamie Carragher.
 
Sky presenter getting desparate, they all would love that football fans feck off for good, bring 60k drones on stands and collect money from customers all over the world. Scum
 
This row is better than the game probably. The presenter is sucking up to his bosses not realising what it's going to do to his image.
 
Crashoutcassius said:
good stuff. who cares if they take points. who actually cares. we were this close to having the club entirely taken away. the government are toothless. this might be toothless too but at least a message to the whole world and to the sponsors that united is toxic.

city fans make me laugh, very happy with the status quo
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If there was only a way to protest against the club and not against the team :rolleyes:

Believe me, I'll be first to remind you your opinion when things don't go well - and you should hope you never complain about no transfers or no trophies. Who cares.
 
Rightnr said:
I honestly don't have the energy to address this point because it's so wrong. But suffice it to say that if you had a friend who earned 10x more than you, him spending 10x on a car/house or anything of the sort than you does not mean your friend is being wasteful. In this comparison, United has been spending 4-5x of what Newcastle has spent but this doesn't mean the Glazers have done anything for this club. Also, it's the club's money, they've invested feck-all.

We are a bigger club, a bigger business and an actual fecking football institution being run by the Glazers as if we're some small-time club.

As for what the 'commentators' are saying, I honestly could not give a toss. They have their cushy jobs with Sky who have taken PL football off the free-to-air TV and have been making money off it for years. Of course they won't like.

The BBC didn't want to feature people exposing the current government's crimes and corruption. That didn't make it right and neither does what the media are trying to portray here.
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Well, the problem on this forum is people who "could not give a toss" about anyone with a different view. There have been fans not just at the ground today but at the team hotel, and that's aimed at the preventing the players from leaving. I repeat, I don't like the Glazers as owners and I wish we had better owners, I hate what was being proposed with the ESL, but not for one moment am I prepared to defend what happened today at Old Trafford.
 
Caius said:
Just depressing how many people react to protests with the exact reaction the people in charge want them to have
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Wouldn't happen if they actually protested against the owners instead of assaulting innocent bystanders.
 
Manncunian said:
Did I say that? Give us your solution then...
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Your implication was that violence was the only solution. It's not. There is a long history of peaceful protest at civil injustice. Try googling the names Gandhi and Martin Luther King jr to name just a couple. Also violent protest has in many cases been crushed by various regimes. China and Iran come to mind in recent history. So thinking that violence is THE solution is wrong and somewhat naive IMO. Billionaire owners will not be detered by stuff like this. Force will be met with force and all you are doing is undermining the movement to get rid of them.
 
TheReligion said:
Should be permanently
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I don’t really understand that particular poster saying something like that. He is very active in other threads defending people’s rights and choices.

It seems out of character.
 
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