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My only problem is if that they broke any windows, we'd have to actually get the glazers in.
Hope a delayed kick off won't mean a clash with Line of Duty
My only problem is if that they broke any windows, we'd have to actually get the glazers in.
It has nothing to do with not being a real supporter or from Manchester or whatever, it has to do with having a completely shit opinion.So I guess I can't have an opinion because I'm not born right outside Old Trafford? Deal with it that we support the same club, a global club, and United have fans all over the world.
Do you often try to personally get to any fan who doesn't agree with you? Hey, I'm a Manc and he's from fecking Poland!
Nice one. I enjoy the discussion on here.
Local fans, yeah, true reds who can express their view on the club - others can't.
And because of money from Sky Sports you could celebrate Barcelona in 1999 or Moscow in 2008. Do you realise that?
I do know breaking in is a crime - peaceful civil disobedience sometimes requires breaking the law. You do know that, right? You've heard of things like the civil rights protests in America, the suffragettes here and the anti-apartheid protests in South Africa? I'm not saying this is anything like as important, but civil disobedience does sometimes mean breaking the law.Do you know breaking in is a crime? That goes beyond civil disobedience, it's trespassing on private property. But how can I reason with logic like this?
Hope a delayed kick off won't mean a clash with Line of Duty
Carragher’s got it absolutely right. This is more than the ESL. It’s what they’ve been doing over their whole tenure taking money out of the club filling their own pockets.
Too far.Mother of God.
Peaceful protest!Are people still going to condone this now? It's gotten well out of hand.
Jesus, Mary and Joseph and the wee donkey, they've gone too far.
Hope a delayed kick off won't mean a clash with Line of Duty
So drunken louts destroying property is the answer??Exactly. When was the last time a peaceful protest achieved anything groundbreaking?!
The sad fact of the matter is that placards and marches don’t achieve results.
It’s also clear that the protesters have not even the beginning of an idea of how to get the glazers out.
Breaking in is now a peaceful crime? Good lordI do know breaking in is a crime - peaceful civil disobedience sometimes requires breaking the law. You do know that, right? You've heard of things like the civil rights protests in America, the suffragettes here and the anti-apartheid protests in South Africa? I'm not saying this is anything like as important, but civil disobedience does sometimes mean breaking the law.
Gary should have rinsed Souness then. Bit disappointed he didn’t go after him.
Imagine equating human rights with football supporting rights.pathetic. You have no clue how any of your rights were achieved.
I do know breaking in is a crime - peaceful civil disobedience sometimes requires breaking the law. You do know that, right? You've heard of things like the civil rights protests in America, the suffragettes here and the anti-apartheid protests in South Africa? I'm not saying this is anything like as important, but civil disobedience does sometimes mean breaking the law.
Unfortunately the only ones getting affected by such an act though is the team and management staff who are blameless in the glazers actionsTo get the game called off.
I struggle to see this ending well.
The Glazers won't quit over one game so this sort of intervention would have to be a sustained pattern.
The best-case scenario under such a prolonged battle of attrition is the Glazers gone but Man Utd set back by several years.
a. The club would lose points from repeated breaches of whatever codes govern these sorts of matters, which might mean missing out on Europe.
b. This would lead to additional loss of revenue in addition to covid hardship, and no good players will be joining. A few of the current good ones will leave.
c. Man Utd will plunge back into mid-table obscurity. The Glazers may or may not decide to divest. If successful, the Glazers will be forced to leave some way...but they won't go empty-handed. They would take as much from the club as they could on their way out, leaving a paucity of funds.
d. The new owners would either be similarly wealthy capitalists with dubious intentions or would attempt to recover organically or rely on debt to finance recovery.
At best, the club ends up in mid-table obscurity for a few years and recovers eventually. By this time, however, the financial power of Man Utd 's brand could have waned considerably,a nd the behemoth is no more.
To be honest, I expected a lot worse. Thankfully the couple people lunging at security and smashing cameras up, seem to have been a couple only. The organisers on this have to insist on this being doing peacefully.Are people still going to condone this now? It's gotten well out of hand.
I made absolutely no mention of where you are once. Im in New Zealand, Im not a local fan. Im just like you, a fan living in another country.
They bought stocks, that's about it. But with the dividends they got, it was a great investment. Other than that, they did not invest and as Gary said, they keep it tight hence OT and Carrington haven't been updated
Not the point. If the Glazers ignore, fine. But the Government have the power to change the law so ownership structures of clubs change to ensure fans have the ultimate say in the boardroom ensuring they are consulted and moves like their attempt to form a European Super League with others doesnt happen.Thousands of people could turn up and stay there from morning until night screaming their hearts out.
The Glazer's won't even be aware until they get a small memo whilst drinking their morning coffee. They will probably proceed to give a light chuckle and shake of the head then go on with their day.
Are people still going to condone this now? It's gotten well out of hand.
I remember when we were relegated in the 70s, that season in Div 2 back then was epic, the stadium was full every home game.I know it's a different era, but if United lose points, or were even relegated, the support wouldn't wane imo - mainly because of the manner of mid table/relegation - it wouldn't be down to poor football but to fan passion.
He's not even in the starting line up. Your best bet is that the match is abandoned and you get your money back.This protesting is all well and good, but I put a tenner on a Cavani hattrick, I want my money.
If one is not being violent, of course it's a form of peaceful protest. Blocking traffic for an environmental protest is against the law, but it's peaceful. Not all acts of breaking the law are violent.Breaking in is now a peaceful crime? Good lord
And trying to compare it to Apartheid? False equivalence doesn't even begin to describe how bad your argument is.
Are people still going to condone this now? It's gotten well out of hand.
Are people still going to condone this now? It's gotten well out of hand.
99% of those in attendance today are generational United fans who fill terraces up and down the land - and further afield - wherever and whenever United play. Yet we have bleeding hearts here condemning their actions, the same people who have never set foot in Manchester before, let alone the ground. Go figure.
We have the best supporters in Britain, bar none. If any fanbase can eradicate a parasite, it’s ours. Well in, lads.