Protest at Old Trafford

mu4c_20le said:
It already achieved something though. Everyones talking about it, including you.
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Chilean miners are currently raising funds for the rescue mission for that particular low bar

Really this is why the Glazers win
 
Pexbo said:
Oh hey @Maciek is this you?
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Yes, what's wrong with that?

Do you often check old posts from posters you don't agree with? I can't have a different opinion and to try to prove your point you need to check my previous posts? It won't work, though.

And I used to write I'm fed up, yeah, but such protests and Super League make this bond with the club stronger. I'm against Glazers, but not in such manner. That's it - don't try to lie and suggest it's different, because you know nothing.
 
Maciek said:
So I guess I can't have an opinion because I'm not born right outside Old Trafford? Deal with it that we support the same club, a global club, and United have fans all over the world.

Do you often try to personally get to any fan who doesn't agree with you? Hey, I'm a Manc and he's from fecking Poland!
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You don’t have to be born near Old Trafford to have gone, do you? If you’ve never been to the ground you won’t understand how the glazers’ lack of investment has damaged it. The place needs serious investment, and if people have to act in a drastic way to achieve that then so be it. You’re allowed an opinion, just as I’m allowed to think you’re not a real supporter of the club, you’ve shown that today.
 
The Original said:
I struggle to see this ending well.

The Glazers won't quit over one game so this sort of intervention would have to be a sustained pattern.

The best-case scenario under such a prolonged battle of attrition is the Glazers gone but Man Utd set back by several years.

a. The club would lose points from repeated breaches of whatever codes govern these sorts of matters, which might mean missing out on Europe.
b. This would lead to additional loss of revenue in addition to covid hardship, and no good players will be joining. A few of the current good ones will leave.
c. Man Utd will plunge back into mid-table obscurity. The Glazers may or may not decide to divest. If successful, the Glazers will be forced to leave some way...but they won't go empty-handed. They would take as much from the club as they could on their way out, leaving a paucity of funds.
d. The new owners would either be similarly wealthy capitalists with dubious intentions or would attempt to recover organically or rely on debt to finance recovery.

At best, the club ends up in mid-table obscurity for a few years and recovers eventually. By this time, however, the financial power of Man Utd 's brand could have waned considerably,a nd the behemoth is no more.
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If the club goes mid table then you’d still support them right? We support through thick and thin when it comes to success.

If it means they reduce their income and the Gkazers can’t ask for as much money fir the club then we might, might just avoid becoming tinsel on a Saudi tree. Someone might buy us that isn’t a murderous regime looking to propagandise an image of reform.

Otherwise we either stick with the Glazers that’ll continue to suck the club dry or we‘re sold to a load of shite.

Take the pain on the pitch to recover he club off it.
 
thesheriffjw said:
Totally disgusting imo.

Breaking and entering into OT is a crime. This is not peaceful protesting.

it is all totally wrong in the way the fans have gone about it
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Aye, thousands dead, nobody wanted it to come to this. How did it come to this?
 
The Man Himself said:
If we are postponing can we have it tomorrow? Our players get an extra day rest. Everyone wins.
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The concern will be that, as United have failed to provide a safe venue, the PL could cede the game to the dippers.
Won’t stop you getting 2nd but could very much help liverpoo get a place in the europa league next season so not good.
 
Paxi said:
Yes. They will care if we start disrupting the team. Disruption to the team equals unfulfilled sponsorship commitments etc. I'd take that a few seasons in the wilderness of League 2 coming back up, rather than having these fecking cockwombles at the club a second longer.

Players come and go. Teams change. There is only one Man Utd.
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And you'd probably be the first one to complain we don't make transfers etc.

It also happens because of those unfulfilled sponsorship commitments, too. And fewer sponsors, less money. But it's always Glazers' fault, innit?

(Before you reply, I'm anti-Glazer, too, but I have a different view on this protest).
 
If the players are watching this on tv, and the match goes ahead, please can they show the same passion that the supporters are.
 
PSV said:
Few individuals? There's several hundred clowns on our pitch judging by the photos. Get them off, arrest them for trespassing/vandalism, I don't care. Then kick-off. End this charade.
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:lol: pathetic. You have no clue how any of your rights were achieved.
 
Neville thinks the protest is mainly because of the esl. It’s not, it’s the fact the glazers have put us in mass debt, they use united as a cash cow. They don’t upgrade the stadium, our training facility is behind a fair few others. Not winning major honours.
Etc etc.
 
SuperiorXI said:
It doesn't matter, that's like the argument that Adidas has already paid United for shirt sales. It's not good for business in any way shape or form.
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With no fans in the stands & match day revenue already lost, it’s like taking a bucket of water out of an ocean.

Measurable, but insignificant.
 
RUCK4444 said:
That’s exactly what the fans are trying to prove.

“We decide when you play” was what one of the banners read when they broke into the training ground.

Bang on. This club, or any club, wouldn’t exist without its fans.

Disrespect them and they should show you their power.

This fanbase has been utterly disrespected time and again by these leaches. This club is trying to compete whilst on its knees and they don’t give a flying feck if we win anything.
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Thanks for the reasoned reply. I'd forgotten about that banner, which at the time I thought was a bit nonsensical. I'm not sure it's the way forward, but (violence aside), I don't really know what else they can do. Will be an interesting end to the season, and will show the resolve of those able to protest if we do start getting points docked for each 'infringement'.
 
chiz2kul said:
Souness with the unpopular opinion, but he's absolutely correct. Glazers have invested billions into the club, of course they want a return. Fans are running based on emotions alone.
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Bullshit, they have not. They have not invested their own money, not to buy the club, not to make the club great. They have taken money out, so he couldn't be more wrong
 
Stack said:
wtf are you on about?
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Not only people living in Manchester understand history.

Sorry, but I've come across such argument too often - you're from Poland, you don't understand. The biggest difference between me and local fans is that I don't get drunk and don't invade the pitch.
 
Gary is setting the place on on fire.

I suppose if the fans stopped every game from happening the Glazers would have to quit the club. Now there's a thought.
 
I mean, ffs, even John Henry recorded a social media apology. All we got was some passive aggressive acknowledgement in the form of a single line. Glad for the protest; even the field protest. Not so much for the few actually causing damage, but.........don't throw the baby out with the bath water, folks!
 
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