Pro Evolution 2017

NinjaZombie said:
Check out what happened at 9:21. I thought it was nice before I realised it was Busquets who was fouled, which just makes it that much more brilliant.
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If your winning 1-0 make a sub around the 85th minute and the game will play a cut scene showing the subbed player slowing walking off the pitch - time wasting (Pique started to complain to the ref over it). Also after you've scored you can take your shirt off and will be booked afterwards.

Already so many great moments in this demo.
 
I like the demo. The game flows smoothly, movements and passing are more fluid. Some on here have said that the opposition fouls you a lot more in this, but I haven't seen that from my play time yet. Player likeness is brilliant as ever with PES games.
 
Mockney said:
Anyone whose been playing FIFA constantly for years needs to give this a long, thorough play before complaining about it. Otherwise you'll just be playing it like FIFA, getting annoyed when things you're used to doing in FIFA don't come off like they do in FIFA. It's a completely pointless way of approaching it.

I've been slagging this off for ages but finally switched back to it last year. There were still lots of annoying niggles, but I found it impossible to go back to FIFA's predictable, cartoony game play after sticking with this for a full week. All its cosmetic features are consistently appalling and I've heard online is regularly a mess, but as an actual football gaming experience I think it's comfortably the better. Though I'm aware people were still saying that during the PS3 era (because I was making fun of them)

Eitherway, it's very, very close to being back, gameplay wise. Though in a age where computer games are huge in scope and breadth, and people expect Ultimate Teams, ProClubs, Journey modes and SuperRainbowTrout trophies, I'm not sure that alone is enough anymore. The PS2 era days of just bungling it on for a quick match 'round your mates, all seems a bit quaint now.
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I think it works both ways with switching between this and Fifa. If I play PES a while then switch back to Fifa, I generally find Fifa really difficult to play and incredibly samey...unless I stick with it for a bit and learn how to play it again (and stop pressing the fecking cross button when I want to shoot). If I play Fifa for a while and switch to PES, PES just looks and feels ridiculous and is again hard to get back into.

I don't think either are anywhere near where they should be in comparison to what other games are doing these days. They're both stuck on models that are ridiculously out of date and the major floaws with each game are the same every single year. PES is always way ahead in terms of attention to detail on individual players, teams, variation, etc...but then lets itself down with it's robotic feel, hilariously bad presentation and the fact most of the goals you score just look somehow wrong. Fifa basically gets all the stuff PES gets wrong, right, and all the stuff PES gets right, wrong.

I've generally stuck with PES because I'm not into all this ultimate team stuff. All these youtube videos of people opening packs of cards with players in them, and then having a massive spasm because Iniesta pops out next to Wes Hoolahan. Why? I do think Fifa could get it reallly right if they just put some effort into it though. PES it almost feels like the problems are part of the furniture, and even if Konami could get rid of them they wouldn't, because they just can't let them go.
 
I actually enjoyed the demo surprisingly. Felt smooth and scored my first goal with a dive for a pen :drool: Can't figure out the skill moves which is annoying
 
Is there a way to show have players marked if they've been booked? Hate having to look at players name to see if they're on a card.

Sweet Square said:
If your winning 1-0 make a sub around the 85th minute and the game will play a cut scene showing the subbed player slowing walking off the pitch - time wasting (Pique started to complain to the ref over it). Also after you've scored you can take your shirt off and will be booked afterwards.

Already so many great moments in this demo.
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I did this twice in injury time, first time oppo player tried to help him off pitch. 2nd time the ref did
 
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I was quite impressed with the demo I must say gameplay wise, but I shan't be buying it this time around. I just can't get past the lack of licenses.
 
Shark said:
I was quite impressed with the demo I must say gameplay wise, but I shan't be buying it this time around. I just can't get past the lack of licenses.
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On PC/PS4 its an easy fix.
 
"And fans flock in by the millions"....

But in all seriousness, I don't mind the licence thing, though it would obviously be great to have it.

Gameplay is all it's about for me.
 
How do people find playing with Advanced through balls against Superstar?

It's really difficult to play intricate midfield one twos as it tends to take the player that slight bit longer to get his pass off when using advanced through ball than basic.

Also, ones who were able to get games online on PES 2016 - How did you find the advanced through balls worked against opponents using basic? Was the button delay a factor?
 
unitedbhoy said:
How do people find playing with Advanced through balls against Superstar?

It's really difficult to play intricate midfield one twos as it tends to take the player that slight bit longer to get his pass off when using advanced through ball than basic.

Also, ones who were able to get games online on PES 2016 - How did you find the advanced through balls worked against opponents using basic? Was the button delay a factor?
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Are you using L1 or just using the pass buttons? To do a one-two in pro it's usually hold L1 then pass the ball, (let go of L1 here) then hit triangle before the ball reaches the player to perfom an immediate through pass. To do a lofted one-two just keep holding L1 when you do the return pass.
 
Keeps It tidy said:
Anyone getting this for XBOX One?
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I would, but it sounds like xbone users still can't get the option file like PS4/PC. So, unfortunately, it will be a FIFA year I think (although I haven't bought into the series since FIFA 14)
 
ArmandTamzarian said:
Are you using L1 or just using the pass buttons? To do a one-two in pro it's usually hold L1 then pass the ball, (let go of L1 here) then hit triangle before the ball reaches the player to perfom an immediate through pass. To do a lofted one-two just keep holding L1 when you do the return pass.
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Aye, I know how to play a one two, it just doesn't work as snappy with 'Advanced' through ball than Basic. I mean just quick passing in midfield in general, not specifically one twos. Just looking to hear opinions from Advanced through ball users.
 
Finally preordered mine this morning, hoping it'll show up a day early on Wednesday.

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Isn't the release date Sep 13th?
Hope I can step in a store and buy it... disgusted that United is Man Red :(.
 
I wonder how many mistakes Neuer has to make in a year for him to drop down from #1 keeper spot
 
It's out today but I won't be tricked into buying it this time. Licensing is even worse than last year, there's not even Poland team with actual names there and there will be no Bayern or Borussia at all (not even pretend ones) so you can basically expect to be playing Barcelona 99% of time online - that's if you can find a game without 1 second lag, which you probably can't.
 
Sarni said:
It's out today but I won't be tricked into buying it this time. Licensing is even worse than last year, there's not even Poland team with actual names there and there will be no Bayern or Borussia at all (not even pretend ones) so you can basically expect to be playing Barcelona 99% of time online - that's if you can find a game without 1 second lag, which you probably can't.
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Borussia Dortmund? They're one of the licensed teams used to push the game this year...
 
Does anyone know if the difference between PC and console versions are only in graphics or is the gameplay also worse on PC?
 
Sarni said:
It's out today but I won't be tricked into buying it this time. Licensing is even worse than last year, there's not even Poland team with actual names there and there will be no Bayern or Borussia at all (not even pretend ones) so you can basically expect to be playing Barcelona 99% of time online - that's if you can find a game without 1 second lag, which you probably can't.
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Loading up an option file with all the proper teams etc (on PS4) is a bit less hassle this time around:




 
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What is the problem with option files and xbone? Something to do with Microsoft licensing right? So shit, will be getting FIFA instead this year :mad:
 
JP77 said:
Borussia Dortmund? They're one of the licensed teams used to push the game this year...
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Really? That's awesome. So they replaced Bayern with Borussia.

There's no United though, the only licensed teams in England are Arsenal and Liverpool. There's no Real Madrid either, in Spain you'll only find Atletico and Barcelona. Bundesliga is not there, not even fake teams - only Leverkusen, Schalke and Borussia. A lot of national teams will have fake names too.

Option files are fine but I don't think you can take them online and football games are really mostly about online for me these days. I understand how someone might like updating all this stuff, or waiting 3 months before Ibrahimovic is at United (because he's apparently still at PSG when you buy the game) but I was incredibly frustrated with this last year and won't even bother this year. FIFA I'm not sure I'll bother with either, 16 was a dreadful game. Nowadays when it comes to sports games I just stick to NBA 2K series and occasionally Madden and NHL. Football games are far, far behind NBA and even Madden series.
 
Nickosaur said:
What is the problem with option files and xbone? Something to do with Microsoft licensing right? So shit, will be getting FIFA instead this year :mad:
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Is there no way to get the license files at all on Xbox one? I was quite fancying this game but if you can't get the licenses will proper leave it.
 
Nickosaur said:
What is the problem with option files and xbone? Something to do with Microsoft licensing right? So shit, will be getting FIFA instead this year :mad:
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I think Microsoft and EA have good cooperation and Microsoft would not jeopardize one of EA's leading products by allowing people to get around the lack of licenses in its main competitor easily. Sony don't care because they're not particularly fond of EA, they did not even allow EA Access to find its way onto their console.
 
JoaquinJoaquin said:
Is there no way to get the license files at all on Xbox one? I was quite fancying this game but if you can't get the licenses will proper leave it.
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There hasn't been for the past two games and apparently it's the same this year. It's a shame as I'd rather support PES and I genuinely prefer its gameplay, but I don't get much time to game anymore so when I do, I can't be bothered to play with crappy unlicensed teams and players.
 
Getting incredible reviews. Some calling it the best footy game ever made.
 
amolbhatia50k said:
Getting incredible reviews. Some calling it the best footy game ever made.
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It does seem a huge leap from previous years to me, struggled a bit with the demo as I'm used to fifa controls and they don't let you change that in the demo. But it seemed nice a fluid with plenty of nice animations during gameplay.
 
ArmandTamzarian said:
Loading up an option file with all the proper teams etc (on PS4) is a bit less hassle this time around:




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Where did you get this file? I never did this option file stuff but I would be interested... just got the game in the US today.
 
Gasolin said:
Where did you get this file? I never did this option file stuff but I would be interested... just got the game in the US today.
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File link is in the description of the video mate. Expect more files to come out over the next day, I'll try this one out tomorrow if my copy shows up.
 
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