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Probably due to the fact DMX fans would have spent hundreds and hundreds of hours listening to his music, potentially going to see him in concert etc etc.

I’d be willing to bet a huge amount of people that are mourning Phillip have never even watched him speak or no much about him at all, bar the obvious. There’s no actual sense of connection, he’s just married to the queen and therefore they feel the need to be sad.

That’s your perspective though. There may be Royalists who are deeply saddened by Philip’s passing. Each to their own.
 
I think it's understandable that some people didn't like him. It's also understandable many don't have time for the Royals. That said some of the rubbish posted has been really crass and childish with anyone who dare not take part be branded a "right winger" or " Royalist" (often using daft text speak in an attempt to garner more "lolz")

As I said, I thought the general was for this kind of dross.

I’m no flag waving, royal loving, duke of E worshipper but I knew exactly what kind of numbskull, pathetic shit flinging would be in this thread before I even opened it. Didn’t disappoint of course.

Sad the queen has lost her husband, that’s all. He wasn’t perfect but he was her love and she will miss him.
 
He has some overtly homophobic lyrics. But homophobia tends to get a free pass in hip hop for some reason.

I like some of his music, but I'm equally indifferent to his passing as I am Philip's. It's perhaps a little strange that Philip is getting dragged for being a bigot, but DMX isn't (or certainly to a lesser degree anyway).

He seems to have multiple charges for animal cruelty too. There was a lot of reports at the time that it involved dog fighting, but I don't know if that was ever proven.

Yeah, very interesting perspective. I guess I can see why a high profile member of the Royal Family would be held to a higher standard, even if that reeks of hypocrisy.
 
This is a very accurate take.
It's a stupid take. Nobody is saying everyone has to shit on him, but likewise you shouldn't expect everyone to pay respects to someone who said lots of racist and horrible things. Do you think it's ok that he made fun of people in wheelchairs? I ask about that because that's nothing to do with "that's just how it was back then", like people are saying about the racist things he said.
 
Trying to catch up on other news is becoming almost impossible on the main stream channels, I understood it yesterday but now it's a bit too much.
 
It's a stupid take. Nobody is saying everyone has to shit on him, but likewise you shouldn't expect everyone to pay respects to someone who said lots of racist and horrible things. Do you think it's ok that he made fun of people in wheelchairs? I ask about that because that's nothing to do with "that's just how it was back then", like people are saying about the racist things he said.

I think you are taking my sentiments totally out of context. No one is asking you to pay your respects, and you’re free to do as you wish. I’m not saying making outmoded statements is okay, but it is understandable coming from people of a certain age – you’re ultimately a product of your era. It’s obviously important to call that out and try to educate people to update their perspectives and attitudes.
 
So was he a racist or not? What's the consensus?

I am almost 30 years younger than Prince Philip. But I can easily remember a time in England when it was very rare to see someone who was black skinned. And while we may try to pretend otherwise, it is a natural human reaction to react to others who are 'different'.
And thankfully, we have and are learning to treat others as equals in every sense.

So the question is whether ones behaviour to others is either Overt, or Covert.

Prince Philip has had the opportunity to tour the world and I am sure that has educated his views.
So in my own view, no, he is not a racist.
But he may have said things that others may perceive as having his views a function of the past.
 
That's inherent to being a royal, how can you even accept the role if you don't believe that.

I think hating royals (and other classes such as billionaires) requires no further justification. Neither should have a place in modern society.

It depends on who they are. I've no problem with a billionaire who started from nothing and achieved that status through hard work and good judgement. I'm sad DMX is gone because he was a nobody who made himself a somebody. I'm not going to blow sunshine up the arse of some bloke who was simply born into the right family though, especially one who thought that made him better than everybody else.
 
DMX was a cnut too.

I don’t disagree but the case could be made for every person that has died that they were a cnut.

Peoples negatives get focused on a lot when someone passes, I find it bizarre but I assume it’s mainly as a response to public outcry and sadness.
 
The guy went around making jokes any opportunity he could, especially terrible ones at the worst times. I really doubt he would give a shit people are making some now that he's out of the game. He would probably love it. In that sense I think it's disrespectful not to make a joke and some of you should be ashamed of yourselves.
 
Honestly, it never fails surprise me some of the low level shite some people post on here in the hope of getting a laugh.
Unpopular opinion on here, but I just don't see it like this at all, not sure many sane people do either.
In an age where people fall over themselves to be offended by everything, and then I get called insane for not finding the crap posts on this subject funny, and thinking it's maybe in slightly bad taste, odd.
Whoopsie, I must have accidentally copy and pasted your response in the Meghan and Harry thread that you directed at the people who felt she was being unfairly treated because of her race.

Unpopular opinion on here, but I just don't see it like this at all, not sure many sane people do either.

Sorry. You were telling us about the offensive remarks that some people in this thread have made. Please continue.
 
It depends on who they are. I've no problem with a billionaire who started from nothing and achieved that status through hard work and good judgement. I'm sad DMX is gone because he was a nobody who made himself a somebody. I'm not going to blow sunshine up the arse of some bloke who was simply born into the right family though, especially one who thought that made him better than everybody else.

This is off-topic, but I have a problem with all of them. In fact, I dislike this common theme that "if they worked for it it's more acceptable" because if deviates from the base issue which is wealth and power distribution, not how it was achieved. It's a system that blindingly accepts this to be normal that it's in check here.

Mind you, it's not specific to the individuals and it doesn't mean I would mistreat or show personal antipathy to them if I met them. It's human nature to accept the good that comes your way, if I accidently became a billionaire I'm pretty convinced I wouldn't burn the money or give it away. I just strive for a society where they cease to exist and "work" politically for that goal, by voting and expressing my ideas.

Most people throwing harsh jokes at Phillip would treat him as naturally as another human being if the opportunity arose. The bitterness isn't directed at his person, but rather at the husband of a Queen.

We are a long way to go, when the majority of the British supports these people right to exist.
 
I am almost 30 years younger than Prince Philip. But I can easily remember a time in England when it was very rare to see someone who was black skinned. And while we may try to pretend otherwise, it is a natural human reaction to react to others who are 'different'.
And thankfully, we have and are learning to treat others as equals in every sense.

So the question is whether ones behaviour to others is either Overt, or Covert.

Prince Philip has had the opportunity to tour the world and I am sure that has educated his views.
So in my own view, no, he is not a racist.
But he may have said things that others may perceive as having his views a function of the past.

That's a lot of words to say "yes but it doesn't bother me".
 
You don’t get it, Penna. He’s a bad guy. That’s the way it works these days. Especially on social media. You’re either a good guy or a bad guy. When the good guys die we act all sad and say “RIP”. When the bad guys die we crack funny jokes about them being dead. Stop complicating things. Nobody can handle life being complicated.

But that's the thing surely, most people know he wasn't a goodie and he also probably wasn't particularly bad, and as such don't really have a lot of interest in him dying or not. It's an interesting footnote in history at best. But if you're one of those people then you won't be posting on social media about it, so I don't see why it should be surprising that the social media reaction is polarised.

I'm just enjoying the memes tbh whilst trying to avoid the patronising news stories.
 
I’m well aware there’s plenty of people that feel a connection to the royals. There will be a large amount of, mainly younger people, who would have probably never heard him (actually him, not in the crown) talk, until they watched any of the programmes yesterday.

I’m someone who actively dislikes the royals, so I’m probably just seeing it from my point of view. Like you, I’d rather just ignore it, not even sure why I opened the thread :lol:
You'd have to live under a rock in the UK to have never heard of him. It's pretty hard to escape coverage of the royal family.
 
You'd have to live under a rock in the UK to have never heard of him. It's pretty hard to escape coverage of the royal family.
Not really. Pretty much no one not even people who like to read about this family gave a shit whether he was dead or alive for the last few decades. He was a nobody and it's pretty easy to see loads of young people never actually known him or even seen how he looks. He'll be forgotten after a couple of days of tributes/good riddances.
 
Christ! Like I said, I know little about his backstory so was just interested. Doesn’t sound great.
He also has lyrics such as these:

"And if you got a daughter older than 15, I'm [going to] rape her," DMX intones. "Take her, on the living room floor, right there in front of you/ D*ck action seriously, what you wanna do?/ Frustrating isn't it? Wanna kill me, but I'm [going to] kill you/ Now watch me f*ck just a lil' while longer please, will you?"
 
Whoopsie, I must have accidentally copy and pasted your response in the Meghan and Harry thread that you directed at the people who felt she was being unfairly treated because of her race.



Sorry. You were telling us about the offensive remarks that some people in this thread have made. Please continue.

Can't believe I fell for that, you're clearly just better at this than me.
 
You don’t get it, Penna. He’s a bad guy. That’s the way it works these days. Especially on social media. You’re either a good guy or a bad guy. When the good guys die we act all sad and say “RIP”. When the bad guys die we crack funny jokes about them being dead. Stop complicating things. Nobody can handle life being complicated.
It's not that people can't handle life being complicated it's people wanting to have fun on the internet. It's very funny that a 21st century racist monarch who spent the last 40 odd years looking like a skeleton from jason and the argonauts died. Yet for some bizarre reason a bunch of posters who ironically enough complain about cancel culture are now suddenly pissing their pants and are trying to make the discussion as boring as possible.

Tbh if Philip didn't want people to laugh at his death then he should of made some hip hop bangers in the early 2000's.
 
Not really. Pretty much no one not even people who like to read about this family gave a shit whether he was dead or alive for the last few decades. He was a nobody and it's pretty easy to see loads of young people never actually known him or even seen how he looks. He'll be forgotten after a couple of days of tributes/good riddances.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-56696887

"I think one of my memories of him, one of his last presentations, was to a young person who - I think at that stage the Duke was either 95 or 96 - and the young person described him as cool," said Kate Thompson, the director of the Duke of Edinburgh Award in Northern Ireland.
"I just thought, isn't that just lovely that a young person felt that he was cool because he was absolutely interested in what they had done?"

Firefighter Zoe Taylor, who also volunteers with the Duke of Edinburgh Award, said what stood out to her was that "he was actually really funny".
Firefighter Zoe Taylor, who also volunteers with the Duke of Edinburgh Award, said what stood out to her was that "he was actually really funny".
"He had a great personality, he was very vocational and his ability to grab a spark within the group was amazing."

It’s safe to say there are a lot of people, charities, organisations that do care that he has died. It’s just nonsense stating otherwise.
 
He also has lyrics such as these:

"And if you got a daughter older than 15, I'm [going to] rape her," DMX intones. "Take her, on the living room floor, right there in front of you/ D*ck action seriously, what you wanna do?/ Frustrating isn't it? Wanna kill me, but I'm [going to] kill you/ Now watch me f*ck just a lil' while longer please, will you?"

Oh dear.
 
Not really. Pretty much no one not even people who like to read about this family gave a shit whether he was dead or alive for the last few decades. He was a nobody and it's pretty easy to see loads of young people never actually known him or even seen how he looks. He'll be forgotten after a couple of days of tributes/good riddances.

What an embarrassing lack of awareness
 
It's not that people can't handle life being complicated it's people wanting to have fun on the internet. It's very funny that a 21st century racist monarch who spent the last 40 odd years looking like a skeleton from jason and the argonauts died. Yet for some bizarre reason a bunch of posters who ironically enough complain about cancel culture are now suddenly pissing their pants and are trying to make the discussion as boring as possible.

Tbh if Philip didn't want people to laugh at his death then he should of made some hip hop bangers in the early 2000's.
Anyone that finds another person’s death ‘funny’ is a strange person in my book.

That dead person was someone’s grandad, father, husband and so on. You don’t have to like the man but revelling in someone’s death is fecking weird to me.
 
He also has lyrics such as these:

"And if you got a daughter older than 15, I'm [going to] rape her," DMX intones. "Take her, on the living room floor, right there in front of you/ D*ck action seriously, what you wanna do?/ Frustrating isn't it? Wanna kill me, but I'm [going to] kill you/ Now watch me f*ck just a lil' while longer please, will you?"
I love Where The Hood At but the first verse is homophobic as feck.
 
I said never heard him talk.
Maybe, but I've hardly heard any of them talk. They're usually just walking into a building or waving out a car window.

Not really. Pretty much no one not even people who like to read about this family gave a shit whether he was dead or alive for the last few decades. He was a nobody and it's pretty easy to see loads of young people never actually known him or even seen how he looks. He'll be forgotten after a couple of days of tributes/good riddances.
He clearly wasn't a nobody. Millions of people know who he was.
Was surprised he had members of the public crying about him though. Thought that was just a Diana thing, although I'm sure it'll be x100 for the queen.
 
I love Where The Hood At but the first verse is homophobic as feck.
Again DMX was a controversial figure. I liked some of his tunes and they were more-less acceptable at the time. That’s doesn’t mean I can’t criticise him but also mourn his death because again, a person is dead — it’s never nice, unless it’s Hitler or something,
 
Maybe, but I've hardly heard any of them talk. They're usually just walking into a building or waving out a car window.


He clearly wasn't a nobody. Millions of people know who he was.
Was surprised he had members of the public crying about him though. Thought that was just a Diana thing, although I'm sure it'll be x100 for the queen.

We can only hope they redouble their human sacrifices to keep her alive, so that we don't have to endure the months of mourning when she dies.
 
We can only hope they redouble their human sacrifices to keep her alive, so that we don't have to endure the months of mourning when she dies.
Get her bathing in virgins' blood. If she hangs on at least four months I hopefully shouldn't be living here so I'll miss it all.
 
Maybe, but I've hardly heard any of them talk. They're usually just walking into a building or waving out a car window.


He clearly wasn't a nobody. Millions of people know who he was.
Was surprised he had members of the public crying about him though. Thought that was just a Diana thing, although I'm sure it'll be x100 for the queen.
That is weird too. Crying over a 99 year old slipping away in his own bed. I mean that’s over the top. I think an acceptable behaviour would be to have a glass of rum (him being a navy man) if you liked him that much.
 
Get her bathing in virgins' blood. If she hangs on at least four months I hopefully shouldn't be living here so I'll miss it all.

The ideal scenario is bank holiday for her jubilee next year, bank holiday for her death (after the jubilee), and then a bank holiday for Charles' coronation. I think I can probably stomach the mourning then.