Premier League - Matchday 20

Dragusin was absolutely pathetic on that one. Didn't even bother to try close him down or slide to cut off the shot. He should get hooked just for that. Embarrassing defending
 
DJ_21 said:
Surprising that because we’ve seen accidental ones before leading to goals and they’ve been ruled out.
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They change the rules all the time with this stuff. I don’t think anybody actually knows what the rules are at any given time
 
DJ_21 said:
Wow. I’m surprised they’ve let that go. I thought they disallow it when it leads to a goal no matter if it’s accidental or not
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I was under that impression, too.

Tbh, handball is treated so inconsistently that I don't know the laws anymore.
 
Posh Red said:
It’s impossible to keep up with the handball laws. They changed more than once per season.
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Was just going to post this..

No idea anymore what the feck refs deem handball and not anymore.
 
That's idiotic, that goal should be clearly disallowed. You can't apply the rules of handball for a penalty to simple FK decisions in the middle of the park.

VAR and refs bottled that one because it has led to a goal.
 
eire-red said:
That's idiotic, that goal should be clearly disallowed. You can't apply the rules of handball for a penalty to simple FK decisions in the middle of the park.

VAR and refs bottled that one because it has led to a goal.
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Surely it needs to be consistent across the board?
 
eire-red said:
That's idiotic, that goal should be clearly disallowed. You can't apply the rules of handball for a penalty to simple FK decisions in the middle of the park.

VAR and refs bottled that one because it has led to a goal.
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Exactly. They seem to make it up as they go along.
 
Only disallowed if it’s the goal scorer irrespective of deliberate

If it’s in build up and accidental, won’t be called back

If it’s in build up and deliberate - will be disallowed
 
Newcastle have so many players that would be amazing for us, all bought in recent years. Bruno G, Gordon, Isak, Murphy, Botman all stroll into our team. Livramento and Hall do too probably. If only we had their Director of Football to help identify transfer prospects...
 
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I don't think that should be handball tbh, it wouldn't be given as a penalty and if it hadn't resulted in a goal not as much would be made of it.
 
Berbaclass said:
Won't be handball because it wasn't the goalscorer.
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In the Premier League, the rule for accidental handball in the build-up to a goal is that if a player accidentally touches the ball and a teammate scores, the goal is allowed. However, if the player who accidentally touches the ball scores themselves, the goal is not allowed.
 
Berbaclass said:
In the Premier League, the rule for accidental handball in the build-up to a goal is that if a player accidentally touches the ball and a teammate scores, the goal is allowed. However, if the player who accidentally touches the ball scores themselves, the goal is not allowed.
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didn't look that accidental
 
Berbaclass said:
In the Premier League, the rule for accidental handball in the build-up to a goal is that if a player accidentally touches the ball and a teammate scores, the goal is allowed. However, if the player who accidentally touches the ball scores themselves, the goal is not allowed.
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I find that so daft and silly. Both result in a goal, the only difference is at what point in time the hand makes contact with the ball. I don't understand what the logic or theory is by applying the law differently based on when the action takes place. We're talking about the actions being merely seconds apart.

Effectively, you can't score with your hand, but you can assist with it.
 
Berbaclass said:
In the Premier League, the rule for accidental handball in the build-up to a goal is that if a player accidentally touches the ball and a teammate scores, the goal is allowed. However, if the player who accidentally touches the ball scores themselves, the goal is not allowed.
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if Gordon's shot was saved and Joelinton scored the rebound, would that would have been disallowed?
 
2 man midfield said:
Surely it needs to be consistent across the board?
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But the rules aren't consistent though. If Joelinton scored without passing it, it would have been disallowed because he handled it directly before scoring. But because he passed the ball, it isn't a handball?

The bar for awarding handball outside of the box should be lower than awarding penalties because of the vastly different consequences (in my opinion). That's just common sense to me. If that was given as a FK in real time, like 99% of the time it is, then nobody would question it. The outcome has determined VARs rationale.
 
eire-red said:
But the rules aren't consistent though. If Joelinton scored without passing it, it would have been disallowed because he handled it directly before scoring. But because he passed the ball, it isn't a handball?

The bar for awarding handball outside of the box should be lower than awarding penalties because of the vastly different consequences (in my opinion). That's just common sense to me. If that was given as a FK in real time, like 99% of the time it is, then nobody would question it. The outcome has determined VARs rationale.
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There shouldn't be any "bar"

If a rule can't be consistently applied across the entire pitch then there is a problem with the rule itself
 
eire-red said:
But the rules aren't consistent though. If Joelinton scored without passing it, it would have been disallowed because he handled it directly before scoring. But because he passed the ball, it isn't a handball?

The bar for awarding handball outside of the box should be lower than awarding penalties because of the vastly different consequences (in my opinion). That's just common sense to me. If that was given as a FK in real time, like 99% of the time it is, then nobody would question it. The outcome has determined VARs rationale.
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Well yeah they need to feck that first bit off, never agreed with that ever since we were on the sharp end of it against Middlesbrough.

The problem with the second part is that you’re refereeing the game according to what you think should happen, rather than what has. We all criticise refs for not giving free kicks in the box that they would outside, so why is this any different? A foul should be a foul, regardless of where it happens. If the law is wrong then change the law, but apply it consistently.
 
This is a fun game. It's high energy, end-to-end and both teams look like they can create chances and cause problems. Good game.
 
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