Premier League Gameweek 6

I don't think Southgate is the right man for United (or any club looking to compete), but there have been links. It's possible Ratcliffe likes him.

Martinez is probably more qualified but he hasn't been linked or mentioned at all. Southgate, Potter, Tuchel...all have.

The more I think about it, the more I think Tuchel might be the one they go for.
Of all those names, Tuchel would be the best choice for United in my opinion. Unless a new challenger appears, all those other choices sounds terrible and just another stop-gap.
Have a feeling INEOS want an englishman and it will go horribly wrong.
 
I don't think Southgate is the right man for United (or any club looking to compete), but there have been links. It's possible Ratcliffe likes him.

Martinez is probably more qualified but he hasn't been linked or mentioned at all. Southgate, Potter, Tuchel...all have.
Very few (if any) concrete links from reputable journalists. From what I've seen, Southgate to United links are primarily driven by online opposition fans.
 
Very few (if any) concrete links from reputable journalists. From what I've seen, Southgate to United links are primarily driven by online opposition fans.
Southgate got linked to us as soon as the news about our new owners came out too. It's just an easy click due to his status and the status of respective clubs.
 
Southampton will struggle to even get as many points as Sheffield United did. Need to sack Russell Martin to have any chance.

Have to say Semenyo is good enough to play for a european club in near future. He has a real swagger about him at this level now and is contributing goals and assists most weeks.
 
Martin is playing for himself, not for the club. Bayern and Kompany have created a pathway for lower table managers to climb the ladder. Result is unimportant.
 
Martin is playing for himself, not for the club. Bayern and Kompany have created a pathway for lower table managers to climb the ladder. Result is unimportant.

Yeah, it’s a tricky one. In my view, he really needs to stick with his philosophy. It’s what got him to this level in the first place, and the same goes for Kompany. Their situation has changed, of course—they’re no longer the dominant teams in their leagues—but that doesn’t mean they should abandon their principles.

Kompany earned the Bayern job by playing attractive, progressive football at Burnley, and that’s a good thing. Why shouldn’t managers from smaller clubs get those opportunities? If Martin were to switch to a 4-4-2 and play a more direct, long-ball style just to survive, sure, it might keep them up in the short term. But it’s not the brand of football he believes in, and let’s face it, nobody wants to watch that style. It’s why West Ham were so keen to move on from Moyes, even though they haven’t exactly improved under Lopetegui.

Ultimately, I think if Martin sticks to his principles, and is given the time and better players, his approach could prove successful. Look at Kompany—he’s had a decent start at Bayern, and it shows that this kind of philosophy can work at the highest level.
 
Yeah, it’s a tricky one. In my view, he really needs to stick with his philosophy. It’s what got him to this level in the first place, and the same goes for Kompany. Their situation has changed, of course—they’re no longer the dominant teams in their leagues—but that doesn’t mean they should abandon their principles.

Kompany earned the Bayern job by playing attractive, progressive football at Burnley, and that’s a good thing. Why shouldn’t managers from smaller clubs get those opportunities? If Martin were to switch to a 4-4-2 and play a more direct, long-ball style just to survive, sure, it might keep them up in the short term. But it’s not the brand of football he believes in, and let’s face it, nobody wants to watch that style. It’s why West Ham were so keen to move on from Moyes, even though they haven’t exactly improved under Lopetegui.

Ultimately, I think if Martin sticks to his principles, and is given the time and better players, his approach could prove successful. Look at Kompany—he’s had a decent start at Bayern, and it shows that this kind of philosophy can work at the highest level.
It's alright sticking with principles, but you have to find solutions to problems on the pitch too. If there is a way of getting Southampton to stave off relegation while playing pass-them-to-death football, then he hasn't found it. And if there isn't one, then what are his principles achieving besides hamstringing his employers and the fans who want to see their team win the odd Premier League game?
 
I know it's said every year, but I genuinely think this Southampton side could beat Derby's points record.
 
Iraola should be in consideration for United's next coach.

No manager with Bruno fecking Fernandes and Marcus Rashford will ever get a team winning consistently . I think he's a good manager but there's about 10 players in the squad that would suit his style of football
 
Iraola should be in consideration for United's next coach.

I said last night that - at the very least - his name should be on any shortlist that gets drawn up in the coming weeks. You get the feeling he has more gears to go through throughout his managerial career.
 
just gets more and more hilarious watching our season slip away yet again. A loss to villa prob puts us around 4 points back from top 10, let alone top 4. Shit with some magic results from those below us mathematically possible to be like 2 points back from a relegation spot. Extremely unlikely they will get wins below us but still.
 
It's alright sticking with principles, but you have to find solutions to problems on the pitch too. If there is a way of getting Southampton to stave off relegation while playing pass-them-to-death football, then he hasn't found it. And if there isn't one, then what are his principles achieving besides hamstringing his employers and the fans who want to see their team win the odd Premier League game?

Agreed, he definitely needs to make some adjustments. I think he has actually tweaked his system already. I remember the commentators mentioning it during the game against us, and they did seem to perform better. In my opinion, they've been a bit unlucky in a few matches—conceding a last-minute goal against Ipswich, and they played well against us too.

That said, football is a results-driven business, and as you pointed out, at the end of the day, fans just want to see their team winning. Performance improvements are great, but they need to translate into points on the board.
 
Of all those names, Tuchel would be the best choice for United in my opinion. Unless a new challenger appears, all those other choices sounds terrible and just another stop-gap.
Have a feeling INEOS want an englishman and it will go horribly wrong.
I was under the impression we approached Tuchel in the summer, and he said no?