Premier League Draft

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P-NutC. RonaldoV. KompanyP. Evra
2mufc0T. HenryD. IrwinM. Carrick
CrappyR. KeaneS. CampbellC. Makelele
ZlatanR. FerdinandR. PiresG. Silva
EnigmaP. VieiraD. BergkampM. Desailly
SjorN. KanteR. CarvalhoA. Robertson
BorisA. ShearerT. AdamsG. Bale
EAPJ. StamD. Silva
ReligionP. ScholesJ. TerryM Essien
IsotopeK. De BruyneW. RooneyC. Azpilicueta
HimannV. Van DijkS. GerrardS. Mane
LordL. SuarezE. HazardA. Robben
PhysioN. VidicP. McGrathC. Fabregas
GioM. SalahCantonaT. Alexander-ArnoldB. Silva
SkizzoR. GiggsAsh. ColeX. AlonsoF. Lampard
PaulScholesD. BeckhamK. AgueroD.YorkeFernandinho

@Physiocrat

Am I seeing Cantona as a false 9 there? :drool:
 
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P-NutC. RonaldoV. KompanyP. Evra
2mufc0T. HenryD. IrwinM. Carrick
CrappyR. KeaneS. CampbellC. Makelele
ZlatanR. FerdinandR. PiresG. Silva
EnigmaP. VieiraD. BergkampM. Desailly
SjorN. KanteR. CarvalhoA. Robertson
BorisA. ShearerT. AdamsG. Bale
EAPJ. StamD. Silva
ReligionP. ScholesJ. TerryM Essien
IsotopeK. De BruyneW. RooneyC. Azpilicueta
HimannV. Van DijkS. GerrardS. Mane
LordL. SuarezE. HazardA. RobbenJ. Mashcerano
PhysioN. VidicP. McGrathC. FabregasR. van Nistelrooy
GioM. SalahCantonaT. Alexander-ArnoldB. Silva
SkizzoR. GiggsAsh. ColeX. AlonsoF. Lampard
PaulScholesD. BeckhamK. AgueroD.YorkeFernandinho


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P-NutC. RonaldoV. KompanyP. Evra
2mufc0T. HenryD. IrwinM. Carrick
CrappyR. KeaneS. CampbellC. Makelele
ZlatanR. FerdinandR. PiresG. Silva
EnigmaP. VieiraD. BergkampM. Desailly
SjorN. KanteR. CarvalhoA. Robertson
BorisA. ShearerT. AdamsG. Bale
EAPJ. StamD. Silva
ReligionP. ScholesJ. TerryM Essien
IsotopeK. De BruyneW. RooneyC. AzpilicuetaY. Toure
HimannV. Van DijkS. GerrardS. Mane
LordL. SuarezE. HazardA. RobbenJ. Mashcerano
PhysioN. VidicP. McGrathC. FabregasR. van Nistelrooy
GioM. SalahCantonaT. Alexander-ArnoldB. Silva
SkizzoR. GiggsAsh. ColeX. AlonsoF. Lampard
PaulScholesD. BeckhamK. AgueroD.YorkeFernandinho

@Himannv @TheReligion
 
Expected Yaya to last longer. Gets under rated a lot around here
 
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P-NutC. RonaldoV. KompanyP. Evra
2mufc0T. HenryD. IrwinM. Carrick
CrappyR. KeaneS. CampbellC. Makelele
ZlatanR. FerdinandR. PiresG. Silva
EnigmaP. VieiraD. BergkampM. Desailly
SjorN. KanteR. CarvalhoA. Robertson
BorisA. ShearerT. AdamsG. Bale
EAPJ. StamD. Silva
ReligionP. ScholesJ. TerryM Essien
IsotopeK. De BruyneW. RooneyC. AzpilicuetaY. Toure
HimannV. Van DijkS. GerrardS. ManeL. Baines
LordL. SuarezE. HazardA. RobbenJ. Mashcerano
PhysioN. VidicP. McGrathC. FabregasR. van Nistelrooy
GioM. SalahCantonaT. Alexander-ArnoldB. Silva
SkizzoR. GiggsAsh. ColeX. AlonsoF. Lampard
PaulScholesD. BeckhamK. AgueroD.YorkeFernandinho
 
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P-NutC. RonaldoV. KompanyP. Evra
2mufc0T. HenryD. IrwinM. Carrick
CrappyR. KeaneS. CampbellC. Makelele
ZlatanR. FerdinandR. PiresG. Silva
EnigmaP. VieiraD. BergkampM. Desailly
SjorN. KanteR. CarvalhoA. Robertson
BorisA. ShearerT. AdamsG. Bale
EAPJ. StamD. Silva
ReligionP. ScholesJ. TerryM EssienR. van Persie
IsotopeK. De BruyneW. RooneyC. AzpilicuetaY. Toure
HimannV. Van DijkS. GerrardS. ManeL. Baines
LordL. SuarezE. HazardA. RobbenJ. Mashcerano
PhysioN. VidicP. McGrathC. FabregasR. van Nistelrooy
GioM. SalahCantonaT. Alexander-ArnoldB. Silva
SkizzoR. GiggsAsh. ColeX. AlonsoF. Lampard
PaulScholesD. BeckhamK. AgueroD.YorkeFernandinho

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P-NutC. RonaldoV. KompanyP. Evra
2mufc0T. HenryD. IrwinM. Carrick
CrappyR. KeaneS. CampbellC. Makelele
ZlatanR. FerdinandR. PiresG. Silva
EnigmaP. VieiraD. BergkampM. Desailly
SjorN. KanteR. CarvalhoA. RobertsonT. Silva
BorisA. ShearerT. AdamsG. BaleB. Ivanovic
EAPJ. StamD. Silva
ReligionP. ScholesJ. TerryM EssienR. van Persie
IsotopeK. De BruyneW. RooneyC. AzpilicuetaY. Toure
HimannV. Van DijkS. GerrardS. ManeL. Baines
LordL. SuarezE. HazardA. RobbenJ. Mascherano
PhysioN. VidicP. McGrathC. FabregasR. van Nistelrooy
GioM. SalahCantonaT. Alexander-ArnoldB. Silva
SkizzoR. GiggsAsh. ColeX. AlonsoF. Lampard
PaulScholesD. BeckhamK. AgueroD. YorkeFernandinho

@Enigma_87
 
Expected Yaya to last longer. Gets under rated a lot around here
You have to build a team around him to be fair. But yeah, his peak gets overlooked quite often.
 
You have to build a team around him to be fair. But yeah, his peak gets overlooked quite often.

I see this quite a lot, but would you say that City side were built around him? Just had a flick through that insane 13/14 season he had and according to transfermarkt he played 33 of 35 games in central midfield with 2 games at attacking midfield and still got 20 goals in the PL alone. Most of the time those games at centre midfield had 4 more attacking minded players ahead of him.

I feel like if you used him in that role in a draft he'd get crucified
 
I see this quite a lot, but would you say that City side were built around him? Just had a flick through that insane 13/14 season he had and according to transfermarkt he played 33 of 35 games in central midfield with 2 games at attacking midfield and still got 20 goals in the PL alone. Most of the time those games at centre midfield had 4 more attacking minded players ahead of him.

I feel like if you used him in that role in a draft he'd get crucified

I don't know if it was built around him but that City side did have the right ingredients for him to shine. Nasri and Silva both playing wider roles, the two pure strikers upfront neither of whom was even close to a support striker/9.5 and a midfield partner who could do the dirty work for him. Was more or less a pure attacking B2B. The lack of any centrally ball dominant players gave him huge space to run into with those long strides combined with good pace and great physicality - was really menacing at that point.
 
With this picking rate, Varane will be eligible at some point.
 
I see this quite a lot, but would you say that City side were built around him? Just had a flick through that insane 13/14 season he had and according to transfermarkt he played 33 of 35 games in central midfield with 2 games at attacking midfield and still got 20 goals in the PL alone. Most of the time those games at centre midfield had 4 more attacking minded players ahead of him.

I feel like if you used him in that role in a draft he'd get crucified
Yes, absolutely. It started under Mancini where he would often start him as the furtherest midfielder out of the three with a double pivot of De Jong & Barry — or he would start him in a midfield two and move him forward mid-game, it often worked as a treat in order to confuse the opponents man-marking system. Pellegrini reintroduced 2 strikers initially but actually changed to a more conservative set up mid-season, which led to better results after the disastrous couple of weeks where they've managed to get eliminated from both CL & FA Cup. Fernandinho was key to how they've played since he was often left to do the dirty work for 2 players, with Yaya getting a free reign to roam forward (incredibly, Fernandinho even gained quite an impressive amount of goal contributions despite being the main water-carrier of that team). Navas was certainly not a more attacking player than Toure in their set up, being mainly responsible for providing width on the right and doing a lot of defensive work on that side.

That 4-2-3-1 that Pellegrini had used in the second half of the season was, in reality, a bit closer to Pep's midfield three with Fernandinho, Silva & De Bruyne than to your usual Ole-esque 4-2-3-1... which shouldn't be that surprising, considering that only one player had changed in that equation, with De Bruyne coming in for Toure. Silva was still de-jure a number 10, but he was playing deeper than usual, Fernandinho covered everything in behind and Toure played somewhere between them — not doing too much work in the defensive phase but always being ready to burst into one of his devastating runs.

Using him even further forward would've been a bit of a waste and I'm going to use a, perhaps, not a very linear comparison, but think about Roberto Carlos in Italy. They've often put him as a left winger which barely amounted to anything — he needed that extra space to gain the initial speed for his runs to become virtually unstoppable, and the same is true for Yaya, just with a bit more variety and finesse.

Toure is such a weird player as he was a great (probably world-class or thereabouts) defensive midfielder at Barca... and he was world-class in that Lampard-esque goalscoring number 8 role. And it's easy to think that he was able to do both at the same time, which would've made him one of the greatest box-to-box ever to grace the football pitch, but he wasn't, for whatever reason (he probably wasn't feeling like doing the dirty work anymore and wanted to feel like the main star of the show as there were no physical issues that stopped him from combining those skillsets together).
 
@GodShaveTheQueen @harms cheers for the responses, I suppose it would be the greater calibre of player in a draft sense that he'd be penalised against. I hated him at his peak as he seemed to toy with our midfield for years, but it's easy to recognise his brilliance at his best. He became unplayable for a year or 2 in that City side.
 
Yeah, there aren't that many great number 10s in the pool which also helps.
 
Nice insight @harms. On the last point, I don't think he had the engine to go box-to-box for 90 minutes. As a fast-twitch athlete he struck through bursts of power, rather than the metronomic qualities of the slow-twitch endurance man (eg Xavi or Beckham). I'm also not sure the modern midfield shape necessarily demanded him to do both holding and goalscoring. With the midfield three he could specialise as either a pivot who sat behind the ball, or an 8 who could float 10 yards higher up the park waiting for his moment to kill. Perhaps he'd have done more of both back in the 80s and 90s when four-man midfields were king.

Agree with @P-Nut, he was a ridiculously good player at his peak and warrants a midfield to be built around him in this draft.
 
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P-NutC. RonaldoV. KompanyP. Evra
2mufc0T. HenryD. IrwinM. Carrick
CrappyR. KeaneS. CampbellC. MakeleleG. Zola
ZlatanR. FerdinandR. PiresG. Silva
EnigmaP. VieiraD. BergkampM. Desailly
SjorN. KanteR. CarvalhoA. RobertsonT. Silva
BorisA. ShearerT. AdamsG. BaleB. Ivanovic
EAPJ. StamD. Silva
ReligionP. ScholesJ. TerryM EssienR. van Persie
IsotopeK. De BruyneW. RooneyC. AzpilicuetaY. Toure
HimannV. Van DijkS. GerrardS. ManeL. Baines
LordL. SuarezE. HazardA. RobbenJ. Mascherano
PhysioN. VidicP. McGrathC. FabregasR. van Nistelrooy
GioM. SalahCantonaT. Alexander-ArnoldB. Silva
SkizzoR. GiggsAsh. ColeX. AlonsoF. Lampard
PaulScholesD. BeckhamK. AgueroD. YorkeFernandinho

@2mufc0
 
Nice insight @harms. On the last point, I don't think he had the engine to go box-to-box for 90 minutes. As a fast-twitch athlete he struck through bursts of power, rather than the metronomic qualities of the slow-twitch endurance man (eg Xavi or Beckham).


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P-NutC. RonaldoV. KompanyP. Evra
2mufc0T. HenryD. IrwinM. CarrickM. Overmars
CrappyR. KeaneS. CampbellC. MakeleleG. Zola
ZlatanR. FerdinandR. PiresG. Silva
EnigmaP. VieiraD. BergkampM. Desailly
SjorN. KanteR. CarvalhoA. RobertsonT. Silva
BorisA. ShearerT. AdamsG. BaleB. Ivanovic
EAPJ. StamD. Silva
ReligionP. ScholesJ. TerryM EssienR. van Persie
IsotopeK. De BruyneW. RooneyC. AzpilicuetaY. Toure
HimannV. Van DijkS. GerrardS. ManeL. Baines
LordL. SuarezE. HazardA. RobbenJ. Mascherano
PhysioN. VidicP. McGrathC. FabregasR. van Nistelrooy
GioM. SalahCantonaT. Alexander-ArnoldB. Silva
SkizzoR. GiggsAsh. ColeX. AlonsoF. Lampard
PaulScholesD. BeckhamK. AgueroD. YorkeFernandinho

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P-NutC. RonaldoV. KompanyP. Evra
2mufc0T. HenryD. IrwinM. CarrickM. Overmars
CrappyR. KeaneS. CampbellC. MakeleleG. Zola
ZlatanR. FerdinandR. PiresG. SilvaA. Kanchelskis
EnigmaP. VieiraD. BergkampM. DesaillyD. Petrescu
SjorN. KanteR. CarvalhoA. RobertsonT. Silva
BorisA. ShearerT. AdamsG. BaleB. Ivanovic
EAPJ. StamD. Silva
ReligionP. ScholesJ. TerryM EssienR. van Persie
IsotopeK. De BruyneW. RooneyC. AzpilicuetaY. Toure
HimannV. Van DijkS. GerrardS. ManeL. Baines
LordL. SuarezE. HazardA. RobbenJ. Mascherano
PhysioN. VidicP. McGrathC. FabregasR. van Nistelrooy
GioM. SalahCantonaT. Alexander-ArnoldB. Silva
SkizzoR. GiggsAsh. ColeX. AlonsoF. Lampard
PaulScholesD. BeckhamK. AgueroD. YorkeFernandinho

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