If you can't see why mocking a tragedy where people have died is horrible behaviour, I'm not going to convince you.
Premier League condemns ‘tragedy chanting’
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If you can't see why mocking a tragedy where people have died is horrible behaviour, I'm not going to convince you.
I really hope they get relegated and stay there.
A real bottom of the barrel scummy club.
A real bottom of the barrel scummy club.
Have you heard of empathy.
I didn't say it wasn't horrible behaviour. In fact I've claimed it is several times in this thread.
I asked you why you were so offended by it.
And I could equally make a case about what a lot of posters in here think about you but I won't bother, you've made your bed so ...
That's not the same as being offended.
Ooooh. That's offensive
Also. Do you think I give a flying feck what strangers on a football forum think of me? Do you think I'm going to change my opinion to be liked? Bloody hell.
But it's why people can be offended isn't it. People feel connected to this club and tragedies that have affected our fans and players. It's also just incredibly disrespectful to mock the dead in the name of football, hence people getting pissed off. I'm baffled that this needs explaining to you.
Ooooh. That's offensive
Also. Do you think I give a flying feck what strangers on a football forum think of me? Do you think I'm going to change my opinion to be liked? Bloody hell.
Here's some of your mod notes then if you don't mind, before we feck you off.
I wish there was a thumbs up emoji!
English surveillance is meant to be the best, no? How about little sleeping darts that one by one put them to sleep, then after the game they are arrested?
English surveillance is meant to be the best, no? How about little sleeping darts that one by one put them to sleep, then after the game they are arrested?
- or you make then watch Leeds games 24 hours a dayOn a more serious note, the technology is available, if football was really serious about these issues there is a lot more they could do so the real question has to be why are they not?
I think it would be too hard to prove it was someone’s audio, the directional microphone wouldn’t be specific enough and then the lip reading aspect of it all. They could argue they’re singing something else, i do think if they made an example and got a couple of people somehow it could very well change things
On a more serious note, the technology is available, if football was really serious about these issues there is a lot more they could do so the real question has to be why are they not?
I really want to see mine now... or maybe I don't
Lip readers can and are used in the courts so it can be done, as for the sound, every voice is unique, a sound engineer can filter out the unwanted and match it to a specific person via software - it would be expensive but once some high-profile examples were made I think a big deterrence factor comes in to play
Your post is a disgrace tbf
United get hit with Munich chants every season and have done since 1958.
Liverpool fans were merciless with it then Hillsborough happened and some started to view tragedy a little differently.
Find it odd the PL has decided to speak about about this kind of thing all of a sudden having previously not been that fussed.
Liverpool fans were merciless with it then Hillsborough happened and some started to view tragedy a little differently.
Find it odd the PL has decided to speak about about this kind of thing all of a sudden having previously not been that fussed.
Yeah but getting a microphone to be tnat specific in that setting from that far away is what in saying. Unless the microphones were Under the seats or nearby
Well the NSA monitors all cell phone calls in the US, a bit of an extreme obviously, but they target keywords and then focus on specifics, say a mike in each block of seating picks up a chant, that narrows it down to a manageable amount where they can pinpoint
Horrible as they are I dont think technology designed to target people commiting actual crimes will or should be used to target those indulging in bad taste songs
That's the spirit! Football used to be, and still is, a working men's sport; a reason why people come together; a field where to humour others as well as yours and yourself; a topic to closen gaps instead of widening them. You need not be a commie to praise it is uniting people of all couleurs. Tragedies however can and should unite people even more than football ever does, and mockery of these shows how little understanding some among us have, for football and for unities.
As a Swiss, and with some distance, I admire how deeply embedded banter is in your culture. Your biggest contribution to humanity isn't tea, or steam engines, imho, but how you fought for the concept of free men allowed to opiniate all sorts of things. With that in mind, I find, and have long found, that while some may overdo it at times, banter is a sign of a lively community and as such to be preferred over its prohibition.
Still, I too feel free to opiniate that football chants directed at survivors of tragedies and their circles are absolutely disgusting, and I have no problem when banter is brought back at them (and why not in the form of mod notes...)
I for one found very classy of this site's people to replace the red site design with grey. It made my day, it really did. That's the spirit!
I'd use technology to target anyone singing Lewis Capaldi songs
If there is one thing that that PL fans can agree on, it seems to be that Leeds fans are the worst in England.
Every fanbase has scumbags, but the Leeds bunch truly stands out to a point where the rivals fans who hate each other have a consensus on something.
Every fanbase has scumbags, but the Leeds bunch truly stands out to a point where the rivals fans who hate each other have a consensus on something.
Guessing youve never heard of Millwall.
This. We are all members of the same football family, I fail to see the attraction in singing about people dying - or wanting people to die for that matter. What happened to singing in support of your team, or humorous chants about the opposition, without the need to incorporate vile distasteful lyrics?
The first time I ever heard the Munich chant was at Elland Road, and that was over 50 years ago. Liverpool didn't chant it then and neither did City; at least I can't recall it happening. It opos up from time to time. When Sir Matt died, they had a minute's silence across the Premiership grounds. Ledds were at Ewood park and spent the minute chanting 'there's only one Don Revie.' Ironic really because Revie and Sir Matt were friends and Revie would have abhorred that. Then there's their glorification of Jimmy Savile. Look, United fans aren't plaster saints and goodness knows we've chanted some pretty bad stuff down the years, but the sheep-shaggers are in a league of their own.
Liverpool regularly had Munich 58 banners at games in the early 80s.
I won’t post the photos but there’s plenty online including a German flag with ‘are you watching Manchester - Munich 58’ emblazoned across it.
They did, but I can't for the life of me remember when the scousers or the berties started singing about Munich. Going away in the 70s, it was Leeds and then West Ham. There may have been others both those stick in the memory.
Well the Scouser's certainly did in the early 80's, not sure about the Bertie's though, I think that's a much more recent thing with them but I might be wrong
That's interesting, I didn't know it went back that far. The most repulsive thing for me was the banners, that @TheReligion mentioned too. The fact Liverpool fans would take the time and effort to make these things and take them along to European Cup finals -what should be a massively proud moment for the own team- is beyond belief. At least that's stopped, but the chanting can obviously be spur of the moment with pissed fans and harder to clamp out. The United fans wouldn't even listen to SAF and stop the Wenger one.