He also thinks we can get 10m for Malacia who has disappeared for the last 2 years. 20m for Maguire who is in his last year, will be 32 in the summer and earns 200k pw. 15m for Shaw who has missed 5 years worth of games in 10 years, is approaching 30 and on 150k pw. The rest of his valuations are also ambitious to say the least.
Posters who dream up these scenarios should state which clubs they actually think will buy those players for those prices and add a bit of context to (what I perceive as) their stupidity.
The prices are in Euro as you can see, and yes we can easy get £16m pounds for Maguire, who is a player that is not build around his pace so he easy play another 4-5 years in the PL for a team around place 14-10 - a club like West Ham for example, and not forgive that he would be in starting eleven in the finals in the Euro 2024 just a couple a months ago if he was not injured
£12.4m for Shaw IF he gets to play around 20-25 games for us this season and is in decent form, is maybe even too low for 29 years old very good LB who is a regular starter for both Man United and England - and same as Maguire, his play of style is not depended on his pace so he can play easy for another 3-4-5 years for a team like Everton - Also here, dont forget that he was in the Englands starting eleven in Euro 2024 in the Finals, it was just a couple of months ago
Malacia for £16m if he stays healthy and plays good in Rubens 3-4-3 system as a LWB at the age of 25 is a fair price
You both are talking like i said that we are going to sell them now in januari and also while they are injured - I am putting up the numbers the players value should be if they are FIT and plays as the level they have ability to do.
And when it comes to wagers - do you really think Maguire believes that he can get 200k per week which he got almost 5 years ago when he was considered one of the best CBs in the league and almost every team in league were after him and we paid £80m, which is still the highest ever paid fee for a center back? Same with Shaw, he knows that any team that would give him a contract, with his injury history, will give him a high fixed fee? It will for sure be a lower fixed wager and the rest will be bonuses based on played games, if he gets back in the England squad, how the team perform etc etc etc
And you both are bringing up something that Manchester United as a club is having, or at least had (there was some good out going business)
a problem with - selling players for pennys just to get rid of them or holding on of players that barely makes the squad (sometimes just because the player had been in the club for a long time and we felt like we owned it to keep them in the club) and then we sell them when they have either 6-12 months left on their contract, or when he is too old to have any value on the market or because that we didnt let go of players we believed in once but they didnt turn out to be player we hoped they would or didnt reach their full potential - or was injured and in the gym more then on the grass playing football (Martial is the best example, he is a player we paid HUGE money for when he was a teenager and when he arrived his start, the goal against Liverpool, made us all believe we found the next Henry, but year after year we gave him chances and he didnt perform or was injured most of the time and still we gave him a RAISE and 4+1 year contract - there are more examples, Lindelöf got a new 5 year after 3 years at the club and we all saw that he would never be a Rio or Vidic - and I can come up with more players, but I think you got my point).
So, my valuations are not high if we compare what others club sell their players for, and I dont mean just the top clubs that sell youth players that have not even played for their first team for more then what we sell our squad players for - but clubs like Brighton, Wolves, Palace, Fulham, Everton etc can all sell players that not NEAR the level our players are at for a high fee mainly because they dont openly present their budget and transfer plans or how desperate they are to sell (to bring in money for new players or balance the FFP) - they mainly try to keep their plans in the club and dont "shows the door" to the players they want to sell before they get a bid they are willing to accept, but I have to give HUGE credit to Ineos and their way of handling business, its world class - since they took control over the football part of the club, no leaks have come through to the press before they wanted it to be "leaked". All transfers, both behind the scene - Vivell, Omar Berrada, Wilcox - or the biggest transfer we made this summer, Yoro, it came out of nowhere and was completed in 1-2 days after it was leaked to the press and the latest example is Ruben Amorim, we sacked ETH, 2 days after we paid the €10m clause and gave him 2 days ultimatum, take it or leave it.
So I think its time for us as a fan base to also value our club, fanbase, board, head coach and his staff and of course our players a lot more and higher. We are MANCHESTER UNITED - the biggest club in the world and we should be the one dictating things and not let small midget club tell us how much we are worth.
GGMU!
Hope I made my point clear, and its not about my original post which I just put down for FUN like I was playing FM (because I heard they will not release one this year - even though I have not played the game since its prime time, around 2012-2014 ), i have been following Man United since season 97-98 on a more or less daily basis, watched EVERY match since then, IF i cant watch i live, I even recorded them on VHS haha to watch them after and always made sure no one told me the result and even though I live in Sweden, I have been to Old Trafford way to many times (how much it has cost me) and seen United win the CL and Europa League (in my home town Stockholm) + 11 other away games in CL + some other pre season matches in Norway and Sweden - and my point is that I follow United and have my own businesses (so I kinda understand how a company works, and how in and out goings should be valued even though if football is a special area when it comes to money transfers) so I am not a totally idiot who dont understand anything about economics, valuation or Man United!
But I love a good conversation, when both parts have their arguments and dont just claims the other one wrong without explaining much.
All the best to you all three who just disliked or claimed my opinions are wrong! @
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