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West Ham United 3:1 Manchester United

Post-match discussion


Sat, 29 September 2018

They shoulg sack him but wont part with 12 million. WTF McTominay as a CD and we had no central defence for the third, just a straight trot through the middle. Youngs crossing and corner taking attrocious. 60 odd mins for a shot on goal. Lukaku just ambling around. I could go on but just the same old shit all the while
well, we saved that by thinking Smalling and Jones were centre backs!
 
The writing was on the wall in February. Anyone shocked by our start considering how we finished last season, our abysmal transfer window and the fact that we had a Mourinho at the zenith of his shitness going into one of his infamous third seasons should have their head checked. This was coming like a freight train and should surprise no-one.
 
Certainly Mourino has to carry the can as he is manager and the buck stops with him regards playing matters.

But I agree with Rio and Scholes in that the players need to share the blame as equally , the attitude , the workrate , the quality. It is all just a mile off where a Utd player should be.

I don't care if you don't like the manager , you disrespect the fans , the club by putting in a performance like that.

We are not even top 4 quality with this squad of players , regardless of who is manager.
 
Shameful. Not an ounce of professional pride in that team. Terrible team selection but that’s no excuse for that pitiful display. De Gea aside I wouldn’t miss a single player if they were sold tomorrow.
 
At no point, absolutely no single point did we look like a side 2 goals down fighting to get back in the game. That's the part that hurts most. Even if you're shite, at least show some effort. This season is done. The sooner the reset button is pressed the better. Our hallowed club is being made a laughing stock. This has to stop!
 
Pogba puts in a performance Like this and Mourhino is toxic? Just about had enough of the cnut he can feck off to any club except City or Pool (not realistic I know). As far as the manager goes we should revaluate by the end of the season (despite my faith in him) because nobody is going to save the season now. Not with this squad
 
That was painful to watch, and our situation is looking eerily similar to Joses downfall at Chelsea. That formation and team selection reeks of self sabotage. Lost 3 out of 7 and conceded at least 3 goals in each. We aren't even hard to beat this season, and thats all we had going for us last year. Not good. I have been a supporter of Mourinho when people have been calling for his head recently, but to be honest I can't see this getting any better at all
 
Yeah...I was 50/50 on this but he needs to leave now. Unacceptable performance really, we looked clueless going forward and created two chances one of them the corner that we scored from...
 
Shameful. Not an ounce of professional pride in that team. Terrible team selection but that’s no excuse for that pitiful display. De Gea aside I wouldn’t miss a single player if they were sold tomorrow.

Why should any of these players give a shit when there manager both a) doesnt give a shit and b) is actively making decisions that are hamstringing the team?
 
Can't sugar coat that, dreadful performance. Went too defensive at the start of the game, let them get an early goal and failed to start pressing them until the second half which led to their second before half time. They then really had the leisure to sit back and relax and eventually picked us off with the easiest goal they could have got, CBs were in no-man's land.

Our defence is really, really bad, no two ways about it. Fellaini and Matic in midfield was overkill, not taking one of them off for Fred was daft. Wouldn't have taken Martial off as I thought Lukaku had a particularly poor game, Rashford looked bright when he came on and topped it with an excellent finish.

Again, once we were really on the back foot we panicked and launched in cross after cross after cross, which was so easy for West Ham to defend against and it always is for any team whenever we resort to it. Don't know what Mourinho's got to lose at this point, just throw on all the creative players we have, we're already losing may as well try to lose prettily. When you're after results you should go to attack, not focus on defending which is exactly what that lineup was all about today.

I'm very, very worried about our top four chances, you look back on results like these at the end of the season when you're desperate for those extra few points. To be honest, if we don't buck our ideas up we might struggle for a Europa spot.
 
I've been a big advocate to giving Mourinho more time, but its just not working is it. My only major worry is that two years after we sack him whoever we replace him with will likely be in the same boat with many of the same shitty players. That's just football I suppose.
 
I'm not too angry, because I expected West Ham to win.
Very predictable result.
 
The writing was on the wall in February. Anyone shocked by our start considering how we finished last season, our abysmal transfer window and the fact that we had a Mourinho at the zenith of his shitness going into one of his infamous third seasons should have their head checked. This was coming like a freight train and should surprise no-one.

To be fair, the abysmal transfer window is one thing we probably can't blame Jose for. He had his targets but I don't think the club obliged at all.
 
watched Chelsea a couple of weeks ago, they had great movement in attack, and good pressing. Had no doubt that they would win after conceding. Knew we lost the game after 5 min. And didnt even bother to watch the second half. Im done.
 
Well hopefully that is that and he's now done at this club. A shit start could be understandable if we had a ridiculous fixture list of City, Arsenal and Chelsea or something but we've had one tough game and that was at home! 8 points behind Liverpool at best today and they've been to Chelsea and Spurs by 7.15pm, what a joke. Get this fool out of our club. Now.
 
Before you lot get it at Jose.

First as Rio and Scholes said no effort no desire no fight no work ethic. The formation wasn\t the problem i twas the players not doing anything of note,

Jose what the hell were you thinking going with a 352. Oh Well. This is poor i expect Jose to get sacked and the new manager to realize that this is a shit show of players.
 
If anyone thinks Mourinho should remain as manager need to book themselves into a mental asylum.
 
Any positives?

- I actually think that this bunch of players has great potential. They play much better on international duty
- We haven’t sold Rashford or Martial - the right boss can bring them through
- DDG is still here
- Maybe Pogba isn’t a prick and he is just the voice of the team (with captain Valencia unable to speak English)
- if we do something soon we can still compete in Europe and possibly scrape top4
 
Spending all that money to play hoofballs, shite crosses from the wings and ultra defensive against a team like WHU as if they are Barcelona or Liverpool. If United had instead promoted their youth instead of throwing all that cash, i reckon we may have been playing much better. But then again under Jose everyone of them would have regressed. So Jose may be dragging United down, but it all boils down to the board, bunch of clueless cnuts their indecisiveness and stupid appointments has caused all this. This club needs a through cleansing with gallons of bleach otherwise we are going down.
 
Pogba puts in a performance Like this and Mourhino is toxic? Just about had enough of the cnut he can feck off to any club except City or Pool (not realistic I know). As far as the manager goes we should revaluate by the end of the season (despite my faith in him) because nobody is going to save the season now. Not with this squad

You really think this was about Pogba's performance?

Watch that game again. Look at his frustration when he had the ball. We had nothing to offer!

Look at him when he comes off, it's the look of a player who just doesn't know what to do anymore. Also, he was publicly stripped of captaincy this week - was that really necessary?
 
Pogba puts in a performance Like this and Mourhino is toxic? Just about had enough of the cnut he can feck off to any club except City or Pool (not realistic I know). As far as the manager goes we should revaluate by the end of the season (despite my faith in him) because nobody is going to save the season now. Not with this squad

:lol::lol:
 
I've defended Jose ever since he became manager and he was the one I really wanted after Sir Alex retired. However todays game made me realise that this team is absolutely done with him.

Shocking lineup and setup, some really weird changes and the same awful football. We've regressed from last season, and even last season we weren't playing well at all. Add to all the problems he's got with some of the players, even though he might me right on some points, we're an absolute mess from top to bottom.

Can't see how this will get better as it all starts to look like the end of Moyes tenure. The thing that scares me is that we will have to start from square one again, and that leaves me traumatized after Moyes, LVG and soon Mourinho. There is also not a proper manager available to bring in now either which makes thing even more difficult.

Really disappointed with the team, and I'm losing all hope and joy with every game. Even though I want to defend Jose, I really can't anymore.
 
Certainly Mourino has to carry the can as he is manager and the buck stops with him regards playing matters.

But I agree with Rio and Scholes in that the players need to share the blame as equally , the attitude , the workrate , the quality. It is all just a mile off where a Utd player should be.

I don't care if you don't like the manager , you disrespect the fans , the club by putting in a performance like that.

We are not even top 4 quality with this squad of players , regardless of who is manager.

Did you seen the formation, tactics and subs Jose made? How in the world can you blame the players for this sham.
 
I don't think I've ever seen such an act of managerial self-sabotage. I've more or less supported Jose in his feuds with Martial and Pogba (both of whom still need to take a hard look in the mirror,) but to start McTominay in central defence, and then continue to leave him on while subbing an actual central defender off just beggars belief. As well, Fellaini had been looking so impressive playing in the role McTominay was given today, so why has Jose given up on that? And to not even include Sanchez in the squad is just bizarre. Yes, he's been underwhelming, but you can't tell me he wouldn't have been a sensible substitution today.

As for the performances, I thought both Martial and Lukaku were atrocious; Matic not much better. Young was mixed, but at least he looked like he cared. Great goal from Rashford.
 
Why should players give a shit? Is that a serious question?

Their manager gives no shits... their manager is sending them out badly organised... their manager is hamstringing them... seriously, why in those circumstances would the players go hell for leather?

It wouldn't happen at any other job... if your manager starts arsing around and not giving a shit, then that attitude will go to his team.

Obviously they should have professional pride etc... but yeah, it's not as simple as that.
 
Pogba puts in a performance Like this and Mourhino is toxic? Just about had enough of the cnut he can feck off to any club except City or Pool (not realistic I know). As far as the manager goes we should revaluate by the end of the season (despite my faith in him) because nobody is going to save the season now. Not with this squad

ahhahahah :lol::lol: Man you're way too harsh on Jose
 

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  • Man Utd win
  • West Ham win
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Detailed Results

  • 18% West Ham 1:2 Man Utd
  • 13% West Ham 2:1 Man Utd
  • 12% West Ham 0:2 Man Utd
  • 10% West Ham 1:1 Man Utd
  • 7% West Ham 0:1 Man Utd
  • 6% West Ham 2:0 Man Utd
  • 5% West Ham 1:3 Man Utd
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  • 2% West Ham 0:0 Man Utd
  • 2% West Ham 3:1 Man Utd
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  • 1% West Ham 2:3 Man Utd
  • 1% West Ham 1:4 Man Utd
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  • 0% West Ham 5:5 Man Utd
  • 0% West Ham 4:1 Man Utd
  • 0% West Ham 2:5 Man Utd
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Match Stats

  1. West Ham
  2. Man Utd
Possession
49% 51%
Shots
8 9
Shots on Target
3 4
Corners
4 9
Fouls
12 12

Referee

Michael Oliver