Haha what? You must really rate Lee Grant
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/villarreal-vs-manchester-united.467109/post-28124755
CL W Champions League Group F
Villarreal 0:2 Manchester United
Post-match discussion
Tue, 23 November 2021
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/villarreal-vs-manchester-united.467109/post-28124755
An understandable nervy start from us given our nightmare month and the importance of this game.At least we had a game plan,made timely and decisive subs which turned the match for us.
Classic SAF tactics,well done Carrick.
Classic SAF tactics,well done Carrick.
The last 20mins we dominated, the 70 prior to that we were complete shite. Around that time, DvB came off for Fernandes who transformed the game with his passing. Fred was class. Second goal, scored by Sancho, was probably one of the best team goals we have scored this season.
SIIIIUUUU
This game highlighted the importance of a deep squad and talent on the bench. They brought on chukwueze and alberto moreno, we brought on fernandes and rashford and the game completely swung in our favour after these changes.
Bruno played it simpler, and was a better player for it. If he learns to pick his time to go for the spectacular as opposed to trying it every time, then he's instantly one of the best midfielders in the world. That cross field pass he tried v watford that led to their penalty, he would never have tried that tonight because he came on with a different mentality, which has to have come from Carrick. Seemed to be way more in control.
Bruno played it simpler, and was a better player for it. If he learns to pick his time to go for the spectacular as opposed to trying it every time, then he's instantly one of the best midfielders in the world. That cross field pass he tried v watford that led to their penalty, he would never have tried that tonight because he came on with a different mentality, which has to have come from Carrick. Seemed to be way more in control.
That was like watching the English NT. Boring but effective. Glad for Carrick and Sancho!
Wasn't there a strong vibe here of.....Mourinho? 70 minutes of risk-averse carefulness, and then capitalising on an opposing team mistake at 80 minutes?
Obviously, I'll take that after the recent horrors. But I hope it's not going to become the template. It does seem to make sense to focus first on regaining some sort of defensive stability here.
Terrific result though - practically sees us through to the second round. Or even mathematically? Not done my homework here.
Obviously, I'll take that after the recent horrors. But I hope it's not going to become the template. It does seem to make sense to focus first on regaining some sort of defensive stability here.
Terrific result though - practically sees us through to the second round. Or even mathematically? Not done my homework here.
Good result that leads to dodging Ronaldo`s nightmare, thats about it. Performance wasnt the best, specially in 1st half.
By any means necessary was the order of the day. A bit ropey at points but no point being overly critical. Will get some much needed confidence back ahead of the Chelsea game.
That was definitely the best but we’d be saying it was error of that went in. I’m not criticising DDG for what it’s worth, another poster said he was in god mode and bailed us out which I don’t think is accurate.
I would have taken 0-0 so delighted with the result. Carrick was obviously concerned with keeping it tight and compact and I completely understand that, can see the same at the weekend. Delighted for Sancho. Also, was Fred playing as a false left winger in the first half? 
it was 4-4-2 for large parts.
it was 4-4-2 for large parts.I missed it tonight and we actually go and win a game! Did we play okay? Did VDB have a decent game?
I would have taken 0-0 so delighted with the result. Carrick was obviously concerned with keeping it tight and compact and I completely understand that, can see the same at the weekend. Delighted for Sancho. Also, was Fred playing as a false left winger in the first half?
diamond, I think?
Yeh, ish, nah.
10 minutes until we win the group if things stay the same.
Seriously an error? It's an impressive save IMO.
We're going to win the group, YB beating Atalanta
The Glazers family will be impressed with this result so everything is ok.
Very good results. Credit to Carrick and the boys.
Sancho on fire
Sancho on fire
Plan and execution. Clean sheet is also a plus. Good win but an absolutely dire first half. Great subs and this defence with Harry looked solid. Hoped Carrick would give himself a bit if credit for this but no apparently it's all Ole.
Classic European away performance I thought.
Kept it tight and 2 good goals at the end with a clean sheet, delighted for Sancho and Dave was top drawer.
Just what we needed well done Carrick.
Kept it tight and 2 good goals at the end with a clean sheet, delighted for Sancho and Dave was top drawer.
Just what we needed well done Carrick.
Young Boys 3 Atalanta 3 result means Man United have now topped the group with a game to spare. Can play the kids in Round 6.
We were fine. Nothing more. What worries me is that player's legs look heavy. Sancho isn't anywhere near as quick and agile as he was at BVB, Rashford is slower off the mark than you'd expect from him, Fred, McT and Van De Beek aren't quick enough on their feet and miss interceptions, or passes because of it, sometimes it causes them to stumble with the ball in possession and lose it. AWB isn't getting to the interceptions quick enough, and Maguire takes too long to hit the correct pass.
It's never a good sign when player's legs look heavy. We're more than a few seconds too slow, and that shouldn't be happening. Someone like Chelsea will make mince meat out of us if we're like that against them.
It's never a good sign when player's legs look heavy. We're more than a few seconds too slow, and that shouldn't be happening. Someone like Chelsea will make mince meat out of us if we're like that against them.
Sometimes it's just about the result. Tonight was one of those times.
Clearly lots of issues to resolve but tonight's results mean (given head to heads with Atalanta and Villareal) we qualify as group winners for the next stage. After the last few weeks I'm happy with that.
Clearly lots of issues to resolve but tonight's results mean (given head to heads with Atalanta and Villareal) we qualify as group winners for the next stage. After the last few weeks I'm happy with that.
Nice. Be good to see if the hype round that kid Lingard is valid or not.
My comment was tongue in cheek mate
feck the reserves! our first team needs to gain confidence first.
If Alisson made those the world would be creaming itself
Why would it matter who made them? DDG is a better shot stopper than Alisson, maybe that’s part of why I didn’t think it was that crazy a night from him.Man Utd might not thank me for this… get the contract out.. put it on the table…. Let him sign it, let him put whatever numbers he wants to put on there give him what he wants… because of what his done in one watch match, let him sign the the contract and go.. Carrick I can’t believe his not Scholes… he’s doing it, he’s doing his thing… Man Utd are back
Relieved FC.
More a point that that's an average night for DDG and no one bats an eyelid, but if Alisson did it it'd be cream central and a night never forgotten.
I'm still confused though, let's just say that replay was the best ever save, the rest weren't that amazing? Not sure if you were the original poster I replied to who thought he'd basically bailed us out of losing.
Qualification to CL Knockout stages! Ole is saved for now!
Oh wait...he can't even beat Watford???
Oh wait...he can't even beat Watford???
The hell is that.
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There was an obvious change when we made the subs, it was tactical. We stepped up the pitch played with a high line and pressed high and forced villareal into mistakes, started dominating possesion and making chances the first goal come from the pressure and come from forcing the mistake by compressing the space with a high line and blocking the passing lanes.
It was an obvious game plan to to be risk free and disciplined for 60 minutes to make sure we were still in the game and not give anything soft away. Villareal didn't create alot, de geas saves mostly come from half chances.
Once we went more aggressive we took
Complete control and it felt like a matter of time before we scored.
It was an obvious game plan to to be risk free and disciplined for 60 minutes to make sure we were still in the game and not give anything soft away. Villareal didn't create alot, de geas saves mostly come from half chances.
Once we went more aggressive we took
Complete control and it felt like a matter of time before we scored.
All the saves were only worth 0.44 xGOT. A goal would still not be par if he faced them all and saved them all again.
Man of the Match
Runners-up
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36%
David de Gea
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11%
Fred
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8%
Cristiano Ronaldo
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4%
Victor Lindelof
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2%
Bruno Fernandes
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1%
Juan Mata
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1%
Donny van de Beek
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1%
Alex Telles
Player Ratings
Total Average Rating
Highest Rated Player
Lowest Rated Player
Compiled from 307 ratings.
Score Predictions
70,77,75
- Man Utd win
- Villarreal win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 20% Villarreal 1:1 Man Utd
- 16% Villarreal 1:2 Man Utd
- 12% Villarreal 2:0 Man Utd
- 9% Villarreal 2:1 Man Utd
- 8% Villarreal 2:2 Man Utd
- 6% Villarreal 0:0 Man Utd
- 5% Villarreal 0:2 Man Utd
- 5% Villarreal 3:1 Man Utd
- 4% Villarreal 3:0 Man Utd
- 3% Villarreal 1:3 Man Utd
- 3% Villarreal 1:0 Man Utd
- 2% Villarreal 0:1 Man Utd
- 2% Villarreal 2:3 Man Utd
- 1% Villarreal 4:1 Man Utd
- 1% Villarreal 5:0 Man Utd
- 1% Villarreal 0:3 Man Utd
- 0% Villarreal 4:0 Man Utd
- 0% Villarreal 2:4 Man Utd
- 0% Villarreal 1:4 Man Utd
- 0% Villarreal 1:5 Man Utd
- 0% Villarreal 0:5 Man Utd
- 0% Villarreal 3:2 Man Utd
Match Stats
- Villarreal
- Man Utd
- Possession
- 51% 49%
- Shots
- 13 11
- Shots on Target
- 3 6
- Corners
- 8 6
- Fouls
- 9 5
Referee
Dr. Felix Brych
Man Utd Lineup
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replaced by Nemanja Matic
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replaced by Marcus Rashford
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replaced by Juan Mata
