EL W Europa League Match Day 6

Viktoria Plzen 1:2 Manchester United

Post-match discussion


Thu, 12 December 2024

I think we need a defensively sound CM who can control and build from deep next to Ugarte and that's our spine pretty sorted.

Not too worried about back three and the two AM roles to be honest.

We do badly need proper top quality wingbacks for this to get rolling though.

There's the three signings we need to actively work on. CF would be a bonus, but nobody will do much better than Hojlund without fixing that first.
I always think that Spains Fabian could be great
 
I think we need a defensively sound CM who can control and build from deep next to Ugarte and that's our spine pretty sorted.

Not too worried about back three and the two AM roles to be honest.

We do badly need proper top quality wingbacks for this to get rolling though.

There's the three signings we need to actively work on. CF would be a bonus, but nobody will do much better than Hojlund without fixing that first.
I think we need to prioritise the AM also. We really only have Amad that can play that role really well. Someone like Eze would improve us massively going forward.
 
I think we need to prioritise the AM also. We really only have Amad that can play that role really well. Someone like Eze would improve us massively going forward.
We need an Eze or Kvara type player. Either would take us up a notch.
 
If after watching that game you 'add it all up' and decide we were lucky then I suspect maths isn't your strong point.

Weren't Pilzen incredibly lucky to be gifted a goal completely out of the blue from an Onana brainfart? Clearly not given you say we both 'deserved to win' and yet were 'quite lucky to come out with a 2-1 win'.

No we didn't play well for the entire first half. Too slow and lethargic but we were more than good value for the win.

You can both deserve to win and still score goals that are quite fortunate.
 
Definitely Mount and Amad as the two 10s. I like the idea of Antony as the RWB, but vs City maybe best Mazraoui.

Hope Bruno gets dropped. Really as CM he’s to light. We need Ugarte & Mainoo
We may very well have Ugarte and Mainoo vs City (this is the most likely pairing at least), but Bruno doesn’t get dropped, you need to be realistic :)
 
Despite dreadful first half, we didn't look troubled other than when Onana decided to be Taibi... and deserved to win. Nice to see a manager making changes that a) come before the 80th minute and b) change things.

De Light, Maz, Amad and Rasmus all had good games and quite frankly I don't give a monkey's how Hojilund scores. Some people still serious question Ruud for rarely scoring outside the penalty area. He was in the right place at the right time for first and second was a top-class finish
 
All change again from Ruben, he is certainly trying things (and players out), which is what he has to do.
We made it heavy going in the first half, but were never in real trouble until Onana decided to play 'Russian Roulette' passing out from the back.
Eventually we got the right balance on the pitch and Rasmus did the necessary.
What is Ruben going to do with Rashford, he's a complete lost soul out there, his positioning , his touch, his pace, his whole attitude suggest he would rather be anywhere else but on the pitch?
Marcus definitely needs a sabbatical, needs to be told to sod off until end of January and don't come back until at least you can play with a smile on your face.... wont happen of course, but something needs to be done the lad is in hell on the pitch at the moment, and we are all watching him squirm.
 
We may very well have Ugarte and Mainoo vs City (this is the most likely pairing at least), but Bruno doesn’t get dropped, you need to be realistic :)

Yeah. That’s my fear. Most likely he will play as a 10, because as a cm we will get destroyed.
 
Difficult pitch cold night, but got through it, better side full 90, they came out fair play at the end to try get a Draw. Changes were very good Rasmus, Antony, Ugarte, Mount, all had impact. Amorin is still trying to get what he wants .
 
Good response after going behind, awful before that but they're a decent side at home and we needed the win so can't complain too much.

Could have done without the madness of those last 5 minutes or so though!
 
I see we are favourites to win the Europa League. We need to finish in the top 8 and we should now, although the two teams we have yet to play are sniffing around. It would be great to win this competition.
 
Mount and Anthony should start the next game. They aren't the favourites of many but they technically able and can link up with the likes of Amad and Hojlund.

I just can't help but feel that Antony is suited well to play the winger role in this system which would free Amad up to be higher where he needs to be.
 
Yeah. That’s my fear. Most likely he will play as a 10, because as a cm we will get destroyed.
Why do you fear that our most productive player (on G/A basis) will play an important match? Isn’t it important for us to score?
 
Why do you fear that our most productive player (on G/A basis) will play an important match? Isn’t it important for us to score?
I don’t think a boxer who needs to throw 100 punches to land 1 punch is a very good boxer. He just wastes energy, tires himself out and lacks discipline.
 
Didn't think Zirkzee was as bad as all the queens are going on about. Had his moments of decent play, but yes, in general he was pants. Think he deserves a year though to see if he can break in somewhere to Amorim´s team.

As for Rashford, please get rid of this guy. The day he leaves there will be massive pressure taken off this side. A sacred cow that is such crap is not good for anyone. Total black cloud over us.
 
Well it would have been a second yellow. I'd agree it would have been harsh. But in the context of the game, he was kind of getting niggly the couple of minutes before that, and was already on a yellow. So, when he dived in like he did, it was stupid because he's giving the referee a decision to make. Another ref on another night might have given him a card for it.
Oh, my bad, I forgot that he was already on a yellow. So, I agree with you that it could have been a second one. I thought you meant straight red. My bad!
 
A bit harsh on Zirkzee...
But my god Rashford! No desire no work rate no nothing. Get him out of there!
 
Only watched the game from time to time but seems like 2nd half looked much better. Big 3 points. Beat Rangers and top 8 finish should be really close.

Nice to win before City though that'll be much more difficult even with their form.
 
I watched the city game and even though they lost they are still miles ahead. It's weird, in the last ten years it feels like football has moved on, become more technical, but we haven't
 
Wouldn't mind if Onana was dropped for 1 game, derby or no.

Would send a message to both player ... and show fans something as well.
 
I think we need a defensively sound CM who can control and build from deep next to Ugarte and that's our spine pretty sorted.

Not too worried about back three and the two AM roles to be honest.

We do badly need proper top quality wingbacks for this to get rolling though.

There's the three signings we need to actively work on. CF would be a bonus, but nobody will do much better than Hojlund without fixing that first.

I think we need to prioritise the AM also. We really only have Amad that can play that role really well. Someone like Eze would improve us massively going forward.
Of these I'd think wingbacks who are specialists would go a long ways towards getting this system firing. Still need a CF understudy (not Zirkzee). Mount is the AM, but between Mount, Ugarte, and Mainoo there should be some semblance of a midfield partnership.

Yeah, it looks like we're still missing puzzle pieces, after an astonishing rebuild under Ten Hag by bringing in 12 players: Martinez, Onana, DeLigt, Mazraoui, Malacia, Mount, Zirkzee, Højlund, Casemiro, Antony, Ugarte, Yoro (is that all of them?). Bringing Amad and Mainoo into the first team should have solved some of our problems but maybe the Amorim system requires specialists we don't have.

Dalot and Malacia as wingbacks wasn't a disaster but it also wasn't impressive. Højlund still seems like our only player who can turn in a CF performance.

After spending millions to fire Ten Hag, millions to get Ashworth then millions more to release Ashworth, and half our squad being new, I don't see how we're getting any new players without doing some amazing sales.
 
Yeah. That’s my fear. Most likely he will play as a 10, because as a cm we will get destroyed.
Our best player on the night playing in that position, but that's probably not visible through the glasses you're wearing.
 
Of these I'd think wingbacks who are specialists would go a long ways towards getting this system firing. Still need a CF understudy (not Zirkzee). Mount is the AM, but between Mount, Ugarte, and Mainoo there should be some semblance of a midfield partnership.

Yeah, it looks like we're still missing puzzle pieces, after an astonishing rebuild under Ten Hag by bringing in 12 players: Martinez, Onana, DeLigt, Mazraoui, Malacia, Mount, Zirkzee, Højlund, Casemiro, Antony, Ugarte, Yoro (is that all of them?). Bringing Amad and Mainoo into the first team should have solved some of our problems but maybe the Amorim system requires specialists we don't have.

Dalot and Malacia as wingbacks wasn't a disaster but it also wasn't impressive. Højlund still seems like our only player who can turn in a CF performance.

After spending millions to fire Ten Hag, millions to get Ashworth then millions more to release Ashworth, and half our squad being new, I don't see how we're getting any new players without doing some amazing sales.
Isn’t alphonso Davies contract coming to an end? There’s 1 player who’ll improve our wingback situation. Offer them peanuts in January or offer him a contract for the summer. Son’s contract is also coming to an end… he’ll improve our firepower up top. Angel Gomes is another one that could become a free agent. There’s a decent crop of players whose contracts are expiring next summer.
 
The opposition was pretty decent tbf. With that in mind and away from home probably our best collective performance of the season so far. Apart from the goalie and Rashford.
 
Yeah. That’s my fear. Most likely he will play as a 10, because as a cm we will get destroyed.
Bruno will definitely play. I’d play him as a 10 with Mount, play Rasmus up front, and move Amad back to RWB. The LWB spot is the area of concern - hopefully Dalot can sort himself out.
 
Bruno will definitely play. I’d play him as a 10 with Mount, play Rasmus up front, and move Amad back to RWB. The LWB spot is the area of concern - hopefully Dalot can sort himself out.

I don’t like two similar tens. My preference for city would be Mount and Amad, Mazraoui as RWB. But I think realistically Bruno / Amad…
 
Isn’t alphonso Davies contract coming to an end? There’s 1 player who’ll improve our wingback situation. Offer them peanuts in January or offer him a contract for the summer. Son’s contract is also coming to an end… he’ll improve our firepower up top. Angel Gomes is another one that could become a free agent. There’s a decent crop of players whose contracts are expiring next summer.
He's old now.
 

Man of the Match

Rasmus Hojlund image Rasmus Hojlund 60% of 215 votes

Runners-up

Player Ratings

5.4 Total Average Rating

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Lowest Rated Player

Compiled from 218 ratings.

Score Predictions

124,13,17
  • Man Utd win
  • Viktoria Plzen win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 18% Viktoria Plzen 1:2 Man Utd
  • 16% Viktoria Plzen 0:2 Man Utd
  • 16% Viktoria Plzen 1:3 Man Utd
  • 14% Viktoria Plzen 0:3 Man Utd
  • 7% Viktoria Plzen 1:1 Man Utd
  • 4% Viktoria Plzen 0:1 Man Utd
  • 4% Viktoria Plzen 2:2 Man Utd
  • 4% Viktoria Plzen 1:4 Man Utd
  • 4% Viktoria Plzen 2:1 Man Utd
  • 3% Viktoria Plzen 0:4 Man Utd
  • 3% Viktoria Plzen 2:3 Man Utd
  • 1% Viktoria Plzen 2:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Viktoria Plzen 3:2 Man Utd
  • 1% Viktoria Plzen 9:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Viktoria Plzen 9:1 Man Utd
  • 1% Viktoria Plzen 2:4 Man Utd
  • 1% Viktoria Plzen 2:5 Man Utd
  • 1% Viktoria Plzen 0:6 Man Utd
  • 1% Viktoria Plzen 3:1 Man Utd
  • 1% Viktoria Plzen 0:7 Man Utd
  • 1% Viktoria Plzen 0:8 Man Utd
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Match Stats

  1. Viktoria Plzen
  2. Man Utd
Overall Possession
31.5% 68.5%
Shots
15 17
Shots on target
2 8
Total touches in the box
26 39
Goalkeeper saves
6 1
Fouls
11 11
Corners
1 5

Referee

Marian Barbu