[mitchmouse]

Just wanted to sign in and post that Rooney should get lost from our squad. Our captain and one of the most experience my a@#. It doesn't take one to know we should not concede a free-kick in that area. Jose, please drop this guy. I don't see any value in him.

yes of course it was all rooney's fault. someone switch off the record... no one played well today no one. so boring seeing rooney blamed for everything from Trump's election to world war one

 

[B20]

Wow, he really does have it in for him. Incredible statement considering he just complained about the inhuman schedule.

 

[mitchmouse]

City gave us another opportunity. we should be out of sight by now. I mean they couldn't even beat Boro

 

[Giggsyking]

Actually, he was an interpreter. Went on to win titles in 4 countries but basically yeah he just conveyed the sense of Mr Robson's words.

tomayto, tomahto

 

[ZAGREB RED]

The injuries aside, what a dreadful performance against a team facing relegation. Got lucky with the penalty, but even then United couldn't take advantage of the gift. One of the worst performances of the season on a day there was a chance to stake a claim for top 4.
Not exactly all-or-nothing in terms of the EL, but it is all the harder when United throw away points like today.

 

[Maradona10]

Best day ever for liverpool. Playing last will really help them this weekend so will the 6 day rest from last game. I think arsenal and our run in are so bad that no way we catch either city or Pool. So its a bit pointless, but we will not be able to field reserves again next week as that would be considered wrong by media and top reds.

 

[mitchmouse]

Would give it until halfway through next season before making a judgement. We spent a lot last summer but it still wasn't enough to fix the problems in the squad, we needed another centre half, striker cover and another wide player at least. I genuinely think Jose has got a lot out of the squad at his disposal, all things considered, and most of these injuries are not his fault.

the man Jose stole from us last year, Pedro, might have made a huge differnece. stunning goal from him today

 

[mitchmouse]

The injuries aside, what a dreadful performance against a team facing relegation. Got lucky with the penalty, but even then United couldn't take advantage of the gift. One of the worst performances of the season on a day there was a chance to stake a claim for top 4.
Not exactly all-or-nothing in terms of the EL, but it is all the harder when United throw away points like today.

we've dropped points to pretty much all of the sides flirting with relegation - wins against them and we would be top four guaranteed

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Why can't we pass a ball properly at the moment? Our passes always seem to be behind the man, or smashed at them or trickled slowly to them... Where's our normal ball in front of the man passes?

Also doesn't help that half our players spend an age deciding on where they should give the ball... It's like nothing is coming naturally to our team at present.

 

[mitchmouse]

The cuture of this club is fecked up, end of. Since SAF stepped down, this club doesn't know how to dig down and get the results that count (and I mean really, really count).

I've resigned myself to us being a midtable club for a while now. I see no end to that in sight, regardless of who the manager is. United has been a club whose success has come from strong personalities with strong roots in the club...and we just have to hope that the day comes when we have enough of those to become contenders again. Unfortunately, I have absolutely no faith at all in the 'leaders' of this club (turds like Woodward, Glazers) having the abiiity to set any kind of framework for it. I see the next few seasons just being the same thing over and over, constant player turnover with the same poor results...

Jose will help, but he is only one man and I really don't know how long he'll be here for.

a long time if he is to keep up record of winning the title with every club he's ever been at

 

[EyeInTheSky]

Thanks

 

[mitchmouse]

Why can't we pass a ball properly at the moment? Our passes always seem to be behind the man, or smashed at them or trickled slowly to them... Where's our normal ball in front of the man passes?

Also doesn't help that half our players spend an age deciding on where they should give the ball... It's like nothing is coming naturally to our team at present.

there were two minutes that sums this up: twice swansea committed lots of men forward and we broke up the attack. Five years ago we'd have been down the other end scoring in 20-30 seconds. this time we got to the halfway line and stopped. waited for them to get back behind the ball and the whole thing fizzled out. so poor

 

[ZAGREB RED]

we've dropped points to pretty much all of the sides flirting with relegation - wins against them and we would be top four guaranteed

Agreed. The amount of home draws has been ridiculous, although today United created very little, unlike most of the games drawn against teams from the lower half of the table where United often came up against a keeper on top form and came close on numerous occasions. Today was just poor, very flat, little energy in the performance ( it could be said understandably so maybe), passing was poor, you could say Swansea were a bit unlucky not to take all three points.

 

[Sassy Colin]

Who knew, we draw, Shitty draw.

 

[prateik]

We really dont want 4th. We have had more chances than we deserve.. and we havent taken any of those.

 

[Crashoutcassius]

Really hope mourinho trusts Tuanzebe or williams rather than Darmian in the coming games. We look very awkward with Darmian and Blind at the back.

If we win our last four games we'll almost certainly get top four. Just need to put excuses to the side and make that happen.

Going to struggle if we have to play Rooney

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Really hope mourinho trusts Tuanzebe or williams rather than Darmian in the coming games. We look very awkward with Darmian and Blind at the back.

If we win our last four games we'll almost certainly get top four. Just need to put excuses to the side and make that happen.

Going to struggle if we have to play Rooney

After that today I wouldn't be picking Rooney again. So, he scored a penalty. Martial can take penalties, Herrera can take penalties, Mata can take penalties. That is his only purpose.

 

[R'hllor]

We really dont want 4th. We have had more chances than we deserve.. and we havent taken any of those.

Pep will fix that next season for you guys. I know you are not a City fan,i am just bored

 

[sunama]

Location: OT.
Opposition: low league, battling relegation.
Result: DRAW.

This seems quote normal, now.
I believe we are playing C.Palace soon, at OT. If this is the case, that'll be a guaranteed draw, right there.

Really hope mourinho trusts Tuanzebe or williams rather than Darmian in the coming games. We look very awkward with Darmian and Blind at the back.

So, Darmian - a senior player who has played at the very highest level - is not totally comfortable as CB (which I accept).
So your idea is to play some teenagers in CB?
What makes you think that teenagers can do a better job than Darmian/Blind?

 

[tentan]

Another chance to take advantage of Man City dropping points and we don't take it. We don't deserve a CL spot via the league.

 

[Wumminator]

well that was a waste of 38.00.

And the money on the programme.

 

[Kant-ona]

We don't deserve a CL spot.
We have a mentality problem. (That's my "sudden" conclusion after Moyes, Van Gaal and Mou after this match.)
I turn to watch snooker.

 

[Wumminator]

We don't deserve a CL spot.
We have a mentality problem. (That's my "sudden" conclusion after Moyes, Van Gaal and Mou after this match.)
I turn to watch snooker.

Worst poem I've ever read.

 

[KristianMackle]

City gave us another opportunity. we should be out of sight by now. I mean they couldn't even beat Boro

Our fixtures are 10 times harder than theirs. Today was our chance

 

[Roger777]

They've the worst defense in the league and we barely created a sniff all game.. at home. Sums us up really.

This is the biggest pisser for me and mourinho would have known this. They are absolute garbage. Sick of hearing excuses about injuries when the mentality is a fecking disgrace.

 

[Livewire1974]

Lol we seem to have these quite regularly and nothing changes. There's far too many passengers in this team that don't deserve to be Manchester United players.

We are a long way off having a squad capable of winning the Champions League. We need at least another 6 players.

 

[TheReligion]

Wow, he really does have it in for him. Incredible statement considering he just complained about the inhuman schedule.

Are all Liverpool fans such drama queens?

 

[Ryan Bobson]

Cant even get in the fecking thing

 

[Robbie Boy]

We are a long way off having a squad capable of winning the Champions League. We need at least another 6 players.

We are lightyears away from that level.

 

[Van Piorsing]

Don't you just love when Rashford is a free kick taker and Lingard is in the box trying to fight in the air ? Saw that few times under LvG when he was sending Mata to do exact same thing.

We really dont want 4th. We have had more chances than we deserve.. and we havent taken any of those.

100% Correct statement. Klopp could draw every remaining game till the end of the season and you know on a subconscious level players would take these gifts and take a shit on it.

 

[peridigm]

Rashford's corners suck. Next.
Rooney conceding that foul was stupid.
DDG's head is 1/2 way to Madrid. Grinds my gears when he doesn't even flinch at those free kicks. It was a beauty of a free kick and was always going in but still, at least fecking try Dave.
There should be a gif that setup and goal showing Herrera leaving the wall, then leaving the exact spot the ball went in. Comedy stuff.
More injuries. Just what we needed. More fecking injuries.
We better wrap our players in bubble wrap for the remaining games.

 

[Jazz]

Still steaming about the result. So disappointed. With City drawing we'd of stayed in top four irrespective of the Liverpool result. Instead, we go and drop two stupid points. Unfeckingbelievable

 

[Catt]

Absolutely inept performance. Deserved nothing from that game, outplayed by effing Swansea at OT. Shocking.

Two more injuries as well, brilliant. Jose needs to re-evaluate his belief in 'having a small squad'.

So, since SAF retired we've had four seasons, with three different managers, a gigantic expenditure and every one of those four seasons has been a write-off in terms of the league. When, exactly, do we stop considering this to be a 'blip' and start recognising that it's a pattern?

We have as you say had three managers. Hopefully we wont have to change again and Jose gets to build his own team.

 

[Catt]

Still steaming about the result. So disappointed. With City drawing we'd of stayed in top four irrespective of the Liverpool result. Instead, we go and drop two stupid points. Unfeckingbelievable

Alright Jazz. What else is new?

 

[Pscholes18]

Missed the match...but just saw the highlights....ffs Rashford....that was a poor and embarrassing dive.

 

[marlowe78]

Wow that's fear. If there's one thing I gree is that we lack personalities that have a winning mind, but honestly I can see Jose fix this quick.

While I've criticized him a lot, I don't doubt that he's one of the best managers. But I think a lot of the problems besetting this club can only be fixed over years, not in a couple of transfer windows.

One of the big problems that jumps out at me is that the senior players who you'd think of as 'United' players (Rooney, Carrick, Valencia, etc.), several of them are older and on their way out of the club. I don't think it's any coincidence that Rooney, Carrick, and Valencia played such a key part of winning our last 2 cup finals. 2 of them are past it but they still have some understanding of what it means in those kinds of games.

The veteran players who will be left (Ibra, Mkhitaryan, Herrera, Blind, etc.) either came here during one of the last 2 managerial turnovers or just joined the squad this season. De Gea is an exception, he joined the last of SAF's teams while at a young age, so we, hopefully, keep him in the team for a few more years.

This kind of shuffling makes it impossible for any manager to build any kind of psychology with a team. Our only consistent captain over the past few seasons has been Rooney, who IMO has been wanting in that role. It's no coincidence that Ibra came right off the airplane and immediately became a leader in the dressing room. There are just not enough authoritarian figures in the squad, if any, to drive the team and with players in and out so much it's hard for any personalities to emerge.

It's going to sound sentimental, but having good players who were developed in your own system also means a lot. The title-winning squads SAF fielded would have been completely different if players like Scholes, Giggs, G. Neville, were not playing for us - or perhaps we wouldn't have won those titles at all. This is where our academy has largely failed. I think Rashford will be a good player, but the PL is currently littered with rejects from our academy like McNair, Love, King, Campbell, etc. who are not up to the standard we need. We have a few fringe first-teamers like TFM and players like Pereira on loan, but none of them look any kind of certainty to make it. Lingard is a decent squad option but I think he's overrated just for the fact that he's 'made it' at United.

I'm not a very sentimental guy, but when you have no clear leaders in the team for long term and a squad of players who have been around for all of about 5 minutes (and may very well leave soon), with no real sense of being a 'United player,' who provides that extra for the shirt? I know this is a dying idea in football nowadays, but the culture at United now is that no one wants to go that extra 10 yards. When players come to us from elsewhere on transfer, I doubt they see players when first in the dressing room that jump out at them as real leaders, real game-changers. The current makeup of United, from the owners to pitch level, is soft. Except when we need to spend ridiculous amounts of money...

 

[Jazz]

Alright Jazz. What else is new?

Nothing Same old same old.. just so frustrated today.

 

[Catt]

Nothing Same old same old.. just so frustrated today.

I know but we go again next weekend.

Would be nice to get a really great result in Spain and rest some players against Arsenal.

 

[Jazz]

I know but we go again next weekend.

Would be nice to get a really great result in Spain and rest some players against Arsenal.

Would love to get a good result in Spain.
I've been trying to stay calm about reaching top four, and today just knocked the stuffing out of me. Anyway, on to Thursday.

 

[Random Task]

We really dont want 4th. We have had more chances than we deserve.. and we havent taken any of those.

I'm sure City, Liverpool and even Arsenal fans feel the same way towards us. We have each flattered to deceive all season long and our league positions reflect that. Spurs have come on strong of late, but were average before that.

Chelsea have been the only team to show any degree of consistency this season and will win the league because of that.