[Crossie]

According to Michael Caley's xG model - which is based on quality, not quantity of chances - a fair result:

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Team playing with no confidence. When Depay made that schoolboy error it just destroyed any fragile confidence that existed. That then transferred to Jones and Smalling.

Fellani and Mata did not do much to shout about. Herrera tried too hard. Carrick legs have gone.

Rooney did well when he came on, but still too mouthy to the ref. Young was probably best player.

Thank god, Schweinie and Schiederlin are available against Chelsea.

Isn't that the point with this manager, that some players have to try too hard to be picked and this was not the conditions to be doing it, when others just seem to get a free pass. Fellaini is an abomination of a player. As you say Carrick has gone and him and Mata hide when the going is tough. Memphis, why did we buy him?

 

[Dante]

The players weren't trying. They're biding their time till the next manager.

 

[Lennon7]

We don't "dare to play" Louis cause you force your players to play risk-free football.

 

[LARulz]

Van Gaal seems defeated

 

[SirAF]

Any post match comments from the manager?

 

[Irrational.]

Carrick looks lost for words in the post-match interview.

LVG with the same spiel in his interview: "We created one or two chances in the second half, and we have to score. We didn't dare to play". He also goes on to blame the wind, and says we were the better team in the second half. I think he's accepted that he's going to be fired. He looks like he's lost hope, and walked away with a stern look towards the interviewer.

P.S. Why does he expect us to have a 100% chance conversion rate?

 

[LARulz]

The look at the interviewer

 

[Manny]

Good interview from Carrick

I thought so.

Death stare from LvG just now...

 

[Moriarty]

The players weren't trying. They're biding their time till the next manager.

Looks like it doesn't it?

 

[Insanity]

Van Gaal seems defeated

What did he say?

 

[MarkC]

The look at the interviewer

If looks could kill.

 

[RedPed]

Wow !!! That look van Gaal gave the Sky interviewer at the end of the interview!!

 

[Welsh Wonder]

What an absolute pearler of a death glare that was

 

[Rory 7]

That interview is the end for LVG.

 

[Ixion]

That look at the end of his interview was great.

I hate the narrative the media will obviously run with that we played a half without Rooney and lost so it was obviously a bad decision to bench him. The press should grow some balls and admit 2 goals in the league in half a season is shit and he deserves to be dropped. That interviewer was obviously trying to get LVG to admit he shouldn't have dropped him.

 

[Stretford End Phil]

'We don't dare to play' and the pressure is mounting - surely that's the manager's failing. Another poor post-match presse and giving the interviewer the evil eye for asking a typical question is just churlish.

 

[mu77]

Van Gaal seems defeated

lost 4 in a row , dumped out of CL , looked like shit football for a while. defeated , yes i'd say so.

 

[LARulz]

What did he say?

Essentially we put ourselves in a tough position in the match, players didn't play with freedom, as part of the club during this 4 match run he knows pressure will come on him, said he was not hurt by media coverage but was annoyed about lies and then when asked if he still has the backing he said it's a different situation now that we have lost 4.

Then gave the interviewer a death stare as he walked off

 

[Tiberius Aquila]

"Must win." declared van Gaal prior to the match. Evidently didn't do enough to elicit that urgency in his squad although they should shoulder all due blame. Disgusted.

 

[EmPeeKay]

The last seconds of his post match presser were ackward to watch. Van Gaal trotted off without saying a word and gave the reporter a nasty stare. If looks could kill!

 

[Irrational.]

What an absolute pearler of a death glare that was

*Glares in Philosophy*

 

[Insanity]

Essentially we put ourselves in a tough position in the match, players didn't play with freedom, as part of the club during this 4 match run he knows pressure will come on him, said he was not hurt by media coverage but was annoyed about lies and then when asked if he still has the backing he said it's a different situation now that we have lost 4.

Then gave the interviewer a death stare as he walked off

Thanks.

Not going to resign then.

 

[Lawman]

There's not anything to be said, that hasn't been said already.
Some fans seemed to believe that we had a chance of winning this game. I believed that a loss was inevitable and would've taken a 1-0 loss before the game started.
Funnily enough, I actually think we have a better chance to win against Chelsea, as that is a home game.

It was said that LVG would need to lose the next 2 games to be sacked - he is 50% of the way there already.
Our board seem to act only when we have completely failed and have no chance to rescue the season.

By the end of today, we could be:
1, out of the CL
2, in 7th place

This was the point at which Moyes was sacked.
The only thing we haven't yet had is the banner flying over OT - maybe that is what the board are waiting for.

What kind of response are you looking for with that shite?

 

[Lash]

Sad times, one player, in Depay, let the manager down completely today. You can't plan for that. The rest of them can't create and fellaini once again can't score from 6 yards out.

He'll be sacked for this. The players have seem to have forgotten this is a team game and were constantly trying to shift the responsibility to the next player to score. I can't believe Ashley young was probably out best player, playing out of position, both offensively and defensively!

I'm jusy fed up with the players more than the manager, but sadly he has to go now as the players are jusy refusing to play for him. New age of football management.

 

[roykeane19]

When we would lose matches, I`d come on here and vent,but now Ive just lost all hope and am numb, the only way to change this is to get in Mourinho fast, before we fall out of top 4

 

[Nathan]

Watched the game, Memphis made a monumental mistake for the first goal. The second we can have no complaints. In the second half, we had more of the ball. If fellaini scores then we have a chance, however it wasn't to be.

Realistically if we change now, will our performances change I don't think so.

Not a great result for sure - didn't expect to lose - a draw potentially

Will wait to see for any developments around the managers position - I'm not keen on a change in terms of the manager

 

[Spock]

Van Gaal has to go immediately, that much is clear.

But if we're going to be fair about today's result and nothing other than today's result, Louis got butchered by insanely poor individual performances by Memphis and Fellaini in particular and a brilliant strike by Arnautovic.

The Fellaini scuffed sitter sums up how the season has gone for us since Day One: shambolic finishing.

 

[Sereques]

The players have lost desire to play and fight.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Any post match comments from the manager?

Do we care?

 

[Lawman]

Good interview from Carrick

Could you see him on telly or was he doing it through a letter box hiding?

 

[Boycott]

Martial is a gem on the ball but there's a problem that he only comes to life when he gets the ball. Quite laboured off the ball when you hope for runs in behind.

Herrera is very overrated. Peak Fletcher is a better player yet Herrera is made out to be a saviour. Good squad player but no more IMO

 

[Jazz]

The players can get to feck. I give the young ones a pass. Everyone else especially the 'senior' players complaining about stupid things can get the hell out of the club. Not one ounce of fight in them. At least go out there with some conviction. I don't care if they hate the manager or if he sends them out with a tactic that these no nowts deem to be not good enough. You're playing for United, you're an elite athlete - have some fecking pride!

LVG has to go now - they've stopped playing for him and it's too late for him to turn things around. Just want him to go and be with his family. It's over now, but along with him, the players need to take some responsibility. Never known a set of soft bastards as the set that we have here. Was praying for Roy Keane to come on the pitch and have a right go at them. Disgraceful!

 

[ThaReaper01]

So you are saying Depay's consistent poor performance is down to players around him? Nothing to do with him?

Read. I never said anything of the sort. His age and the situation he's in means it's far too early to write him off.

 

[Stretford End Phil]

Don't dump it all on Moyes and Van Gaal. Those who hired them carry some of the blame. Chronic under-investment during Fergie's last five years and a shotgun approach to transfers under Van Gaal and Moyes are part of the cause.

I take your point M but today's performance was rooted in Moyes arrival. Agree, the board and Fergie have their part in the longer picture of 5 years prior. However, Moyes' damage was grievous; we never really salvaged anything before LVG came along, and have finally buried any trace of our former stubborn spirit. Today was not like any squad I have seen for a long time, except for Ander they didn't look like United players.

 

[peridigm]

Did they show a post match interview or did LVG snub it?

 

[Danny1982]

Put the man out of his misery. That interview was sad.

 

[Manny]

I hate the narrative the media will obviously run with that we played a half without Rooney and lost so it was obviously a bad decision to bench him. The press should grow some balls and admit 2 goals in the league in half a season is shit and he deserves to be dropped. That interviewer was obviously trying to get LVG to admit he shouldn't have dropped him.

Yep, it started as soon as the team was announced.

I think the media know Rooneys has been playing poorly but they'll use it as another stick to beat LvG with.

 

[Stretford End Phil]

Did they show a post match interview or did LVG snub it?

Yep, I mentioned it earlier. He said 'we didn't dare to play' and were under pressure. He glared at the interviewer at the end for asking about his future.

 

[sunama]

was there a more predictable result this season?

For me: no.
This was such an easy prediction, I stated before the match started that I'd take a 1-0 loss, as I wanted to protect our GD (should this be important at the end of the season).
I know it sucks to think that way, but we need to be realistic with what we can achieve with our current setup.