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Manchester United 0:2 Newcastle United

Post-match discussion


Mon, 30 December 2024

Actual crisis. Ruben might be sacked by by new year. Relegation a reality. My god, this is dreadful.
 
Vile

A worrying first half. Any form of rebuild has to start in January

Team is severely lacking the basics, but also physicality and athleticism
 
Pre-Mainoo, we were torturous to watch.

I think, to make the best of a dire set of circumstances, we need to play Mainoo and Bruno behind Hojlund and play attackers as wing-backs. Probably Amad and Antony.

I'd play Casemiro next to Ugarte, just to have a passer in the middle, and get Martinez on the bench.

Onana
De Ligt Maguire Yoro
Amad Ugarte Casemiro Antony
Bruno Mainoo
Hojlund

It's far from ideal, but it's the best I can come up with given the limitations and framework we're dealing with.
 
At least we showed some fight first 20 minutes of the second half but otherwise…toothless, ponderous, shite.
That can’t be the exceptable levels. Is this how far we’ve fallen? Is this the only positive we can take? Fight for the first 20 mins of a 90 min game? Damn it really is bad.
 
Same as it’s been for years now.

Lack of courage, lack of effort, lack of fight, lack of physicality, lack of confidence
 
Pay a non-United team to come in and do nothing but set piece drills all day with our defenders, and defending against our attackers.

Do not pit United against United - they're both fecking useless and can easily beat each other in training.
 
Worse is yet to come. We are very bad at football and deserve our position in the league. There isn't many sides I'd fancy us to beat at the moment. Dreadful side.
 
That one's on the boss. Starting Eriksen and Casemiro in midfield was daft. We don't have the firepower to recover from 2 down.
 
Amorim made mistakes with his selection but in all honesty a number of the players were so bad I’m not sure it really mattered.

People have been pining for Casemiro but he was an embarrassment, Newcastle have numerous players that would significantly improve our team, I’m not sure any of our starting eleven would be a big upgrade for any of their players.
 
Positives
- We looked good in large parts of the game
- Dominated possession in the 2nd half
- Looked confident defensively barring two miniscule moments
- Good distribution from Onana
- Hojlund looked good with his back to goal
- Dalot Offered plenty of width and attacking threat down the left
- Zirkzee looking sharp before having to come off

Negatives
- We lost
- We didn't concede many corners or set-pieces
 
Cant remember such a one sided first 30 minutes at Old Trafford. Could easily have been 5-0 to Newcastle. Last 10-15 when Mainoo came on we made 2 clear chances but fluffed both.

Second half better much more even game but my god we need a striker a nd some decent wingbacks if this system is to work.
 
Shambles. We don’t have a single world class player and our manager hasn’t adapted to the PL yet. And I don’t think the board and suits surrounding SJR will make it any better.
 
I can't even look forward to these bunch of players winning in the Championship, they'd struggle there as well!

For anyone who thinks relegation isn't a possibility, better teams then ours have got relegated and on current form we are the worse PL team!
 
If I was amorim I would forsake the fa cup to drill this side in training. We are proper fecked and looking like a team that could easily go down.
 
These players are a disgrace to our club. No movement, no intelligence, no fight, no determination.
Not a single one of them bar Amad is fit to wear the shirt. I truly hate this set of players. Worst I have seen since Big Ron was in charge, but at least his players gave their all.
 
Yes, Newcastle are a big strong team, but bloody ell, we looked way off them in terms of physical attributes. Obviously its been that way for years, but add in a manager that demands a high tempo intensity and we are up a creek.
 
3 best United players today:
1) Mainoo
2) Maguire
3) Yoro

3 worst United players today:
1) Martinez
2) Zirkzee
3) Casemiro
 
What I’m struggling with is that Amorim knows you can’t play cas and Eriksen together. Hes done that. He knows it.

But he did it again.

And remembered after 30 minutes what a dreadful decision it was

He needs to STOP being stupid.

I personally don’t think you can play 3-4-3 in the premier league and WIN it. But maybe it can make us better than we are now.

But he’s got to stop making stupid decisions or he will end up sacked.
 
That first 30 when we looked like we'd never even seen a football before was worse than anything previous. Should all have wages docked. Watching crosses come in, couldn't make a pass.
 
Onana - 6
Dalot - 2
Maz - 3
De Ligt - 4
Maguire - 3
Martinez - 3
Casemiro - 0
Eriksen - 4
Zirkzee - 0
Diallo - 6
Hojlund - 5

Pretty crap overall.
 
Eurgh - going to get worse before it gets better as well, just look at the next two games.

Crikey.
 
Not good enough on any level from the players and the manager. Losing at home but keeping 5 defenders on the pitch for 80+ minutes.

What he's doing just isn't working, so he needs to make changes and quick. Personnel, style, formation or a co,bination of all three. I don't have the answers but he needs to try something, anything.

And for the love of sweet fecking jesus, play someone else other than Dalot at LWB. Christ.
 
Lots of bad decisions tonight - but 3 minutes or injury time in a second half that had 6 subs, injuries and time wasting was a shock.

I’d prepared myself for 9 minutes
 
It's all setup nicely for a win next weekend.

That's how football works, right?
 
At least we showed some fight first 20 minutes of the second half but otherwise…toothless, ponderous, shite.
Yeah i wouldn't really call that "fight". Newcastle were so comfortable, they really didn't need to break much of a sweat. They literally just sat back and watch united pass the ball awkwardly, not really do much and ping long balls.
 
ETH and Murtough need to be in handcuffs. Woodward at least had the squad looking top 4 competent.
 

Player Ratings

3.7 Total Average Rating

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Score Predictions

56,126,22
  • Man Utd win
  • Newcastle win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 18% Man Utd 0:3 Newcastle
  • 16% Man Utd 2:1 Newcastle
  • 12% Man Utd 0:2 Newcastle
  • 12% Man Utd 1:3 Newcastle
  • 8% Man Utd 1:2 Newcastle
  • 6% Man Utd 0:4 Newcastle
  • 5% Man Utd 1:1 Newcastle
  • 3% Man Utd 2:2 Newcastle
  • 2% Man Utd 3:1 Newcastle
  • 2% Man Utd 3:2 Newcastle
  • 2% Man Utd 0:0 Newcastle
  • 2% Man Utd 3:0 Newcastle
  • 2% Man Utd 2:0 Newcastle
  • 2% Man Utd 0:9 Newcastle
  • 1% Man Utd 1:0 Newcastle
  • 1% Man Utd 1:4 Newcastle
  • 1% Man Utd 4:3 Newcastle
  • 1% Man Utd 0:5 Newcastle
  • 0% Man Utd 4:1 Newcastle
  • 0% Man Utd 0:1 Newcastle
  • 0% Man Utd 2:3 Newcastle
  • 0% Man Utd 2:5 Newcastle
Compiled from 204 predictions.
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Match Stats

  1. Man Utd
  2. Newcastle
Overall possession
52.7% 47.3%
Shots
10 12
Shots on target
1 4
Total touches in the box
17 19
Goalkeeper saves
2 0
Fouls
13 8
Corners
2 3

Referee

Simon Hooper