LC L League Cup Semi-Final

Manchester United 0:2 Manchester City

Post-match discussion


Wed, 06 January 2021

We were home schooled by a much better team,
guess we're going for the 3rd this season.
 
The better team on the night won.
They took their big moments. The first goal sucked the little momentum we had from the end of the first half. Silly free kick to give away by Mctominay for that first.
 
United the architects of their own downfall in a semi final once again. Not one but two poorly defended corner kicks. City at no stage looked likely to concede goal as soft as those and the first goal in that cagey affair was always likely to make a telling difference.

Moving on to FA Cup next, more than half of tonights team need a rest and be prepared right for two hugely important league games against Burnley and Liverpool.
 
City are probably the worst team to play after a busy Xmas period, especially since they've come into some form recently. If you're half a yard short and feeling a bit leggy they'll take full advantage and just pass you to death.

I only saw the second half but we had our moments where we could've punished them but overall it's hard to say we deserved anything from that. Hopefully it doesn't impact our league form as confidence must've been sky high going into this one, which makes it more disappointing we didn't put up a better fight.
 
City players wanted it more and worked harder. Simple as that.

When Bruno had a shot form a half volley in the second half I counted 10 city players in their own box working to stop United getting a free chance. Sums it up.
 
Lack of quality in our final third play really let us down tonight. Some very sloppy passing and touches.
Pretty much sums up the difference. Too many below par showings tonight. That, coupled with City hitting form and we hardly troubled them.
 
As an Ole outter I'm quite happy, it's been a tough time recently but hopefully this is the beginning of the end for the Norwegian fraud and his lutefisk brand of football.

It's just a shame now that Poch is at PSG because we still had an opportunity to be saved.
FFS! What a shit post. You're quite happy to see us lose as it suits your agenda?

What absolute wank!
 
We need to grow a set of balls for the FA Cup, I don't think Ole realises that these players need to taste victory, if we keep crumbling in semi finals I dread to think how we'll cope with a title run in.
 
I feel like that is a good example of what Baily brings to the table instead of Vic. No way Baily lets the ball run past him for the first goal.

And with Bailly in the side, Maguire and the rest can push up knowing Bailly's pace can recover any uncertainty.

Ole is tactically naive. He could have played Bailly today and have him rest against Watford. Ole has ruined the momentum we had going now because of selecting two snail centre-halves in his defence.

What a shitshow!
 
City were by far the better team and deserved the win.

They're playing as well as they have for about 18 months. They're more of a worry than Liverpool right now regards the title.

They didn't create anything from open play and scored through a couple of set pieces.
 
City completely deserved that. You'd think the manager would respond after going down 1 in a semi final but, same old story, he just had no idea how to affect a game like that.

I know a little while back he said we have to allow for Bruno to take risks but, that's resulted in today him not giving 2 fecks about being some what professional, stupid flicks, ridiculous outside of the boot attempts at passes and shots from 40 yards out. Should have been pulled to allow Martial/Greenwood/Rashford a shot to push city back.

Oh well - hopefully get a reaction on Saturday.
 
I actually thought we played quite well except for in the final third. They've still definitely got the edge on us quality wise though which is disappointing.
 
Ole needs to learn from his memory.

He played with 4 strikers ffs.
When it didn't work for Cole and Yorke, Fergie would change them for Teddy and Ole.

And he didn't wait until the 80' to do it too.

You could see Rashford and Martial weren't up for it. Constantly in offside positions or just plain wank (Tony).

Change them ffs.

Also, we need a new CF. Now!!
 
City wanted it more. Simple. Some players heads just drop when things dont go right. Need to sort that out. Looking at Rashford and Martial in particular.
 
City should walk the league from here, they look like they're starting to really kick into gear.

We looked tired and simply not good enough. You felt the only chance we had was off a City error. Too many players just not on it.
 
As an Ole outter I'm quite happy, it's been a tough time recently but hopefully this is the beginning of the end for the Norwegian fraud and his lutefisk brand of football.

It's just a shame now that Poch is at PSG because we still had an opportunity to be saved.
Why tf are you even here?
 
We can't defend set-pieces. Bruno has a bad game and we fail to create much.
 
Pretty much sums up the difference. Too many below par showings tonight. That, coupled with City hitting form and we hardly troubled them.
Their defence concentrated for 90, ours didn't, and we constantly gave the ball away in positions where we should have hurt them
 
As an Ole outter I'm quite happy, it's been a tough time recently but hopefully this is the beginning of the end for the Norwegian fraud and his lutefisk brand of football.

It's just a shame now that Poch is at PSG because we still had an opportunity to be saved.
Stand back and stand by. Perhaps your prayers for less will be answered? I myself hope for glory this season.
 
On balance we were OK in the first half, but we didn't force the issue enough in the second and were made to pay by a good team. Going out in semi finals has become an unwelcome thing but I'm not devastated by any means to be out of that competition. I'd like to see us develop a more ruthless edge in big games like semis and crunch league ties; if we drift out of more of these type of games in this manner it will be very disappointing.
 
City were far better team... they bossed the first 30 minutes, we had a decent 15- 20 mins.
2nd half they bossed it and we went to rat shit.

Scott and Fred are not in the same league as city’s midfielders at this level of game. Fred grafts and disrupts but then makes a crap pass or gets caught dwelling on the ball. Scott just isn’t consistently good enough and lacks the quality to get any control in midfield. We really need to upgrade these two if we want to compete with the very top teams (which city are)

martial very poor today, constantly lost possession, cities defence had him in their pockets... he is Inconsistent which is not good enough at this level of game.
 
Good match. Man City just had the edge on performances as Dias sniffed out Martial, and Pogba couldn’t influence the match while Man City’s key players were menacing and busy.
 
City just sat us down and showed us the difference between an actual elite side and a top 6 side on a great run of form.
This is how I saw it. It reminded me of the Conor vs Mayweather fight with Conor as Ole and Mayweather as Pep.
 
Not the best. Front 3 didn't click at all tonight. Could've done with Cavani.

Give a bunch of em a rest in the FA Cup and regroup for the league.
 
As an Ole outter I'm quite happy, it's been a tough time recently but hopefully this is the beginning of the end for the Norwegian fraud and his lutefisk brand of football.

It's just a shame now that Poch is at PSG because we still had an opportunity to be saved.

:lol::eek::lol::eek::lol:
 
City were not good and we were worse. Nothing really positive to mention.
 
The amount of goals were conceding, without looking like we're learning from our mistakes is very worrying. Our passing in the final third is also becoming a problem.
 
Very good game 2 very good sides, cup games are like this city were excellent, and so were we for large parts of this game. Difference is we made errors that were punished. Theres were not. Also they've improved since few weeks ago. They've spent there time they've had improving there game it showed. Disappointed with result but not the performance or attitude of players.

Burnley on Tuesday is now the most important game. Watford on Sat i dont really mind what happens. Good game proper game.
 
As an Ole outter I'm quite happy, it's been a tough time recently but hopefully this is the beginning of the end for the Norwegian fraud and his lutefisk brand of football.

It's just a shame now that Poch is at PSG because we still had an opportunity to be saved.
Please tell me you're being sarcastic?
 
Unfortunately they’re better than us. We’re closer than last year - and should have made a lot more of some of the positions we got into but tonight didn’t tell us anything we didn’t already know. We still need to improve.
 
Positives: Fred, Shaw, Greenwood and Pogba

Inbetween: Maguire, Henderson

Negatives: Wan-Bissaka, McTominay, Fernandes and Martial

Anonymous: Lindelof and Rashford

City weren't actually that good going forward, they relied on the space opening up on the counter when we were chasing a goal, their biggest threat was from set pieces. Their defence was excellent although it helps when Martial kills every attack with garbage first touches, sloppy passing and directionless dribbling and Rashford decides not to do, well, anything. If any one of Rashford, Martial or Bruno had shown up we could've won this game. McTominay's having an appalling season, he looks lost with the diamond, to be honest I don't like the diamond at all, we've been consistently outplayed whenever we play it and I'd rather we end this experiment with it once and for all.

Maguire had a strange game, typically missed some easy opportunities and made a mistake that lead to their opener but his defensive partner was anonymous, aside from that he was actually really solid defensively. I prefer the Bailly - Maguire combo out of all the defensive combinations I've seen us utilise this season. We played out well from the back quite well tonight. Henderson made some good saves but also looked nowhere near some of their shots.

Fred, Shaw and Pogba were the only starters who played with a bit of pride. I thought all 3 were good today, Shaw's having his best season in a United shirt. Greenwood looked lively when he came on.

Sometimes we play with 0 tempo, slow and lethargic passing not aided by static attackers. Like others have said, I don't think we were that bad until we got into the final 3rd but all 3 of our attackers had an off day today, we went toe-to-toe with them for the majority of the game. We need to see a big improvement against Watford, Burnley and Liverpool.
 

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Score Predictions

136,44,27
  • Man Utd win
  • Man City win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 38% Man Utd 2:1 Man City
  • 10% Man Utd 1:2 Man City
  • 10% Man Utd 2:0 Man City
  • 9% Man Utd 1:1 Man City
  • 8% Man Utd 1:0 Man City
  • 7% Man Utd 3:1 Man City
  • 4% Man Utd 0:2 Man City
  • 3% Man Utd 2:2 Man City
  • 2% Man Utd 1:3 Man City
  • 2% Man Utd 2:3 Man City
  • 2% Man Utd 3:2 Man City
  • 1% Man Utd 3:0 Man City
  • 0% Man Utd 0:0 Man City
  • 0% Man Utd 0:1 Man City
  • 0% Man Utd 2:4 Man City
  • 0% Man Utd 0:3 Man City
  • 0% Man Utd 0:4 Man City
  • 0% Man Utd 0:5 Man City
  • 0% Man Utd 5:0 Man City
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Match Stats

  1. Man Utd
  2. Man City
Possession
40% 60%
Shots
11 12
Shots on Target
2 4
Corners
4 4
Fouls
9 6

Referee

Martin Atkinson