This is beyond hilarious, just wait till this gets on RAWK
When will they have update on result of the DNA test?
PL W FA Premier League
Manchester United 2:1 Liverpool
Post-match discussion
Sat, 10 March 2018
That was as routine a save as you will get.
TrueNot sure Liverpool think that.
but seriously, the ref gave them extra-extra times and didn't send Klopp to the stand for his rage, so pretty lenient enough.Wasn't feeling too confident pre game with no Pogba or Martial, but looking at how mediocre Liverpool are bar their front 3 re-assured a little.
Quality goals from Rashford, and a good first half saw us right.
The second half was a bit of a drudge, and it was annoying how they got back in it with such a spawny goal. It gave them a way back in which they didn't deserve. However, we pretty much kept them to pea rollers, or playing across us.
Chelsea and Liverpool seen off. He's getting the big games right more often than not now, at least at home.
Here's to seeing Sevilla off.
Quality goals from Rashford, and a good first half saw us right.
The second half was a bit of a drudge, and it was annoying how they got back in it with such a spawny goal. It gave them a way back in which they didn't deserve. However, we pretty much kept them to pea rollers, or playing across us.
Chelsea and Liverpool seen off. He's getting the big games right more often than not now, at least at home.
Here's to seeing Sevilla off.
Wait seriously?On TAA's Wikipedia page there is info that he's the nephew of our club secretary and that his grandmother was Sir Alex's girlfriend once. You just can't make this up
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Okay, just seen it and confirm it's there.WTFOn TAA's Wikipedia page there is info that he's the nephew of our club secretary and that his grandmother was Sir Alex's girlfriend once. You just can't make this up
Just checked it myself. Ridiculous.On TAA's Wikipedia page there is info that he's the nephew of our club secretary and that his grandmother was Sir Alex's girlfriend once. You just can't make this up
not joking mate, see it for yourself (personal life)Wait seriously?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trent_Alexander-Arnold
I remember seeing this a while back. The newphew stuff is true, isnt it?
Nephew stuff is true.
No Salah!
Mate, I don't disagree - not at all.
But here and now, under the circumstances - I'll take it, and...well, I'm actually quite pleased. I feared this one - really. But they didn't cause us nearly the amount of trouble I'd feared.
I agree fully that we shouldn't be desperately defending a lead like that - ideally - but feck it, it is what it is here and now.
We won - it's important, the most important thing.
And Rashford...I can't think of anything more satisfying than him being the main difference in a match like this.
Nerves wrecked.
Mata should have scored; Matic was fantastic first half, needed a walker in the second; McTominay played like Matic in his prime; defense was smothering in the second half; Rashford was MoTM but subbing Fellaini on for him won United the match; 6 fecking minutes???
Mata should have scored; Matic was fantastic first half, needed a walker in the second; McTominay played like Matic in his prime; defense was smothering in the second half; Rashford was MoTM but subbing Fellaini on for him won United the match; 6 fecking minutes???
Have to laugh at that from Sourness
Got away with it? We were 2-0, comfortable and barely in even a remote bit of danger. It was only Bailly's quite insane slice, (if it was Smalling, we'd have threads lambasting him for it) that even gave them a sniff.
I would be more worried if we were desperately defending a lead against WBA. Liverpool were always going to give it a go, but they were still pretty toothless.
I get why you're not happy but with all due respect I think you're being a little naive. Liverpool are the same team that tore City to shreds. A City team who have been a dominant force this season. What makes you think that we can go out and get a result by bringing the game to Liverpool when not even City could do it? Liverpool love to counter with pace against teams who try to attack them. We didn't allow them to do that and in all honesty Liverpool never really looked like scoring today (even considering the Bailly mishap where the ball should have been cleared).
I think all United fans want us to play attacking and entertaining football and I get that probably won't happen consistently with Mourinho but you can't fault him for his tactics today. They were spot on.
After the two early goals, I was afraid that the match will go in the same direction as the Arsenal match: lots of chances from the opposition, De Gea MOTM etc. I couldn't be more wrong. Even though the team made a step back, Liverpool were just unable to threaten the United goal. If in the Arsenal game it felt like a goal is inevitable, in this one it felt like the match could go on for hours and Liverpool still wouldn't score. Amazing performance from the team today.
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Great win.
Good 1st half performance.
Very nervy 2nd half, though Pool didn't create much if anything. Just wish Mourinho was more proactive, but it is what it is.
3 important points.
Good 1st half performance.
Very nervy 2nd half, though Pool didn't create much if anything. Just wish Mourinho was more proactive, but it is what it is.
3 important points.
"In March 2018 he got sent back to Liverpool by Marcus Rashford"
lol
Couldnt watch the game. Always seems to turn out well, those games. Maybe I should throw out the telly..
Just saw that!!!Do the people complaining about the game plan not realize who we were playing today? It would have been suicide to play and expansive open attacking game. Liverpool can definitely match us and most likely out gun us in an open game right now but they sure as hell can't dictate when Jose sets the team up correctly.
Give the manager some credit for getting the tactics spot on for one of the most important games we have had all season. The players deserve a lot of credit as well for executing the game plan and barely putting a foot wrong all game.
Give the manager some credit for getting the tactics spot on for one of the most important games we have had all season. The players deserve a lot of credit as well for executing the game plan and barely putting a foot wrong all game.
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Why do all our players tweet about the atmosphere? Surely part of clubs plan to raise the image.
Lads I need a united meme page for my liverpool friend. His deluded memes have got to me I need to respond with fury
Actually - yes. Biggest chance they had was VVD's. We're too shaky defending corners, by the way - and Liverpool seemed to produce about a hundred of them today. Reason enough to field Fellers - almost.
But, yes - you're right, they didn't produce much in the form of clear cut chances. It still felt like a pretty shaky performance for much of the 2nd half - we let them get at us in a way that hardly felt safe - but like I said, I'll take it, not to say I'm actually delighted.
It sure as feck wasn't boring - nobody can claim that.
Wait.. Lovren claimed we're playing for a point today.
Agreed. We can't be swashbuckling all the time. Sometimes we need to buckle the swash.
Very good win vs Liverpool great to see Rashford back in the starting line up and back in the goals surprised that was his first double since his debut pair vs Arsenal,
Liverpool’s 8 players behind Mane, Firmino & Salah are mediocre at best
That was some OG by Bailly don’t know quite how he managed to do that
Liverpool’s 8 players behind Mane, Firmino & Salah are mediocre at best
That was some OG by Bailly don’t know quite how he managed to do that
That was very pleasing today. I had hoped that my faith in us improving once we started having games in front of our fans again was not misplaced, and the boys sure delivered today.
We played exactly how I supposed we would. We were comfortable with allowing Liverpool to have the majority of the possession, we sat deep, were disciplined in defence and invited them to break us down. Ultimately, Liverpool lack in this area with no exceptional creative midfielders and no specialists from range. This is where they miss Coutinho. Once we got the ball, we look to play very direct and break in the gaps Liverpool were leaving. In particular, we targeted the inside left channel and both goals came there.
What was crucial was not giving the ball away in dangerous areas. Liverpool are most dangerous when they win the ball and can attack incisively before you get your shape back. It was important for our full backs to not over commit and for our players to not get disheartened at having to pass backwards as opposed to forcing the pass and losing it. The decision making in passing today was very good. There are games where you need to be more risk averse, because otherwise you play into the opposition’s hands.
The first half was fairly balanced. Rashford’s finishing was absolutely clinical and was the difference at half time. Our approach in the second half was going to be key. Liverpool’s attack was not suddenly going to become blunt because we were two goals ahead. The key was going to be to minmise the chances you would concede, whilst still keeping the opposition honest in defence.
We got this absolutely spot on and it took all my restraint to not pick a fight with the guy and his wife behind me who moaned throughout at how we should have gone attack, attack, attack second half, and how Mourinho was getting it all wrong. What bollocks. Here’s Caley and Tegen with their XG wizardry:
United defended excellently and restricted Liverpool to under 0.4xG second half. We could have played that second half five times and Liverpool still would not have mustered up the xG necessary to score two goals on average, never mind the fact that we created as much second half too! This was vintage Mourinho and miles away from that Arsenal match that relied on outstanding goalkeeping and shite finishing.
Some of the post-match punditry is a bit skewed. Liverpool weren't better second half. They didn't create more than the first half, they created slightly less. Over the course of the match, Liverpool simply didn't do enough to ever expect to come from two behind with any likelihood. United got two ahead and then played accordingly with a high degree of success. Looking back Liverpool could have got a penalty for Valencia's handball, but there’s little recognition of the fact that they had a monumental slice of luck for Bailly's OG (the chance of Bailly putting it in his net is like a percentage or point or two at best), so it's not as if fate was cruel on them today.
Individually, many had a great game today. Bailly immense, Smalling too, Matic and McTominay were solid, Sanchez was very good defensively second half and Lukaku was crucial for the goals. Rashford deserved to be man of the match for his goals, but Young was right up there too. No exaggeration to say he pocketed Salah and he again showed his worth. Fellaini when he came on showed what he’s best at and played a very good box to box role to get us up the field. He has been missed.
That was without doubt the best home atmosphere under Mourinho. Stretford End was fecking superb.
We played exactly how I supposed we would. We were comfortable with allowing Liverpool to have the majority of the possession, we sat deep, were disciplined in defence and invited them to break us down. Ultimately, Liverpool lack in this area with no exceptional creative midfielders and no specialists from range. This is where they miss Coutinho. Once we got the ball, we look to play very direct and break in the gaps Liverpool were leaving. In particular, we targeted the inside left channel and both goals came there.
What was crucial was not giving the ball away in dangerous areas. Liverpool are most dangerous when they win the ball and can attack incisively before you get your shape back. It was important for our full backs to not over commit and for our players to not get disheartened at having to pass backwards as opposed to forcing the pass and losing it. The decision making in passing today was very good. There are games where you need to be more risk averse, because otherwise you play into the opposition’s hands.
The first half was fairly balanced. Rashford’s finishing was absolutely clinical and was the difference at half time. Our approach in the second half was going to be key. Liverpool’s attack was not suddenly going to become blunt because we were two goals ahead. The key was going to be to minmise the chances you would concede, whilst still keeping the opposition honest in defence.
We got this absolutely spot on and it took all my restraint to not pick a fight with the guy and his wife behind me who moaned throughout at how we should have gone attack, attack, attack second half, and how Mourinho was getting it all wrong. What bollocks. Here’s Caley and Tegen with their XG wizardry:
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United defended excellently and restricted Liverpool to under 0.4xG second half. We could have played that second half five times and Liverpool still would not have mustered up the xG necessary to score two goals on average, never mind the fact that we created as much second half too! This was vintage Mourinho and miles away from that Arsenal match that relied on outstanding goalkeeping and shite finishing.
Some of the post-match punditry is a bit skewed. Liverpool weren't better second half. They didn't create more than the first half, they created slightly less. Over the course of the match, Liverpool simply didn't do enough to ever expect to come from two behind with any likelihood. United got two ahead and then played accordingly with a high degree of success. Looking back Liverpool could have got a penalty for Valencia's handball, but there’s little recognition of the fact that they had a monumental slice of luck for Bailly's OG (the chance of Bailly putting it in his net is like a percentage or point or two at best), so it's not as if fate was cruel on them today.
Individually, many had a great game today. Bailly immense, Smalling too, Matic and McTominay were solid, Sanchez was very good defensively second half and Lukaku was crucial for the goals. Rashford deserved to be man of the match for his goals, but Young was right up there too. No exaggeration to say he pocketed Salah and he again showed his worth. Fellaini when he came on showed what he’s best at and played a very good box to box role to get us up the field. He has been missed.
That was without doubt the best home atmosphere under Mourinho. Stretford End was fecking superb.
How Mourinho was that defense my word, superb stuff.
Absolutely chuffed for Rashers, the young lad deserves it and the first goal what a banger!
Absolutely chuffed for Rashers, the young lad deserves it and the first goal
what a banger!- Bailly makes such a difference to our defence. Even with the self nutmegging own goals and Zidane turns into opposition players. Honestly, he makes our whole team look more assured in what it's doing because when he's there you have confidence in our defence to deal with basic situations (with the exception of corners, where every single game it's like we didn't know they existed befoe hand).
- De Gea, best goalkeeper in the world without doubt, but why does the ball have to be literally within a 1m radius of him before he'll come out and collect it?
- McTominay...thought that was easily his best game for us. Yeah Liverpool controlled the midfield, but he didn't get caught out once, was calm on the ball, and read the game really well. He's been pronne in other games to sleeping and letting players run off him. Today he was proactively seeing and cutting off things you wouldn't necessarily say were even his responsibility.
- When Rashford is direct he's often our best attacking player. He does things before defendeers can react.
- We have a better record against the top six now than anyone other than City, so that's that Mourinho beating stick out of the window. Paul Pogba also interrupting Mourinho during his MOTD interview to give him a hug/attempt to rip his arm off...so that's that stick to beat him with out of the window too.
- I do kind of admire Jose's conviction even when I don't agree with or like what he's doing. He must have known the Rashford/Fellaini sub wouldn't have gone down well. He'd take off Martial and Rashford for a courgette and a painting of Hitler if he thought it was the right thing to do. He doesn't give a feck.
Stormzy - bullied Lovren. Stayed prayed up. Got the job done.
- De Gea, best goalkeeper in the world without doubt, but why does the ball have to be literally within a 1m radius of him before he'll come out and collect it?
- McTominay...thought that was easily his best game for us. Yeah Liverpool controlled the midfield, but he didn't get caught out once, was calm on the ball, and read the game really well. He's been pronne in other games to sleeping and letting players run off him. Today he was proactively seeing and cutting off things you wouldn't necessarily say were even his responsibility.
- When Rashford is direct he's often our best attacking player. He does things before defendeers can react.
- We have a better record against the top six now than anyone other than City, so that's that Mourinho beating stick out of the window. Paul Pogba also interrupting Mourinho during his MOTD interview to give him a hug/attempt to rip his arm off...so that's that stick to beat him with out of the window too.
- I do kind of admire Jose's conviction even when I don't agree with or like what he's doing. He must have known the Rashford/Fellaini sub wouldn't have gone down well. He'd take off Martial and Rashford for a courgette and a painting of Hitler if he thought it was the right thing to do. He doesn't give a feck.
Stormzy - bullied Lovren. Stayed prayed up. Got the job done.
Manchester United 2 Liverpool 1 sounds good.
But it works. Spurs got knocked out midweek of the CL because they did the opposite to what we did to day. When Juve went ahead, they brought everyone back. Even Higuain was back defending in his own half.
Mourinho won the CL with both Porto and Inter Milan by doing what Souness is giving out about. We did the same against Ajax in the Europa last year and we won it.
The only time I get annoyed with Mourinhos tactics is when we play poorer teams away from home. I would prefer to see us dominate like we do at home against the poorer teams. But on days like today, against good opposition, the tactics are warranted.
It does work but he's been guilty of overdoing it to be fair. I think when the game is too open or you don't have the control over it, or even if the other team make a change to push for a goal and you need to react to it, fair enough...he's done it with United in games though when we've been in complete control and he's then taken that control away.
Didn't have any problem with his tactics today, and I also thought he pretty clearly made the Fellaini chane to try and stop so much of the game being played on the edge of our own box, and it worked in fairness. We had a short spell before he came on where we were reverting to the familiar aimless punt to Lukaku when he's 70 yards away from a team mate routine. Fellaini came on and was pressing on the halfway line with Sanchez, and it gave us back a threat on the break.
Delighted with that, a very controlled, streetwise performance. They never really had a sniff, which is some testimony considering their supposed potency.
The main thing was to get us back competing, back as a top 2 club, not 4, 6 or 8, and Jose has done this; ok it hasn't always been pretty, but finishing outside the top 4, or worse, isn't pretty either. Yes, I'd love to see us win and entertain at the same time but Manchester United need to be winning trophies, and with that will come the cavalier football we're renowned for.
This.
A very Jose match set-up. To beat their high press, you by-pass them to score. They were completely impotent upfront because of the tight marking by our full-backs.
After we scored, you know that they had to come back all guns blazing.
So we set up our stall and absorb the pressure in the 2nd half. If we had better outlet balls, we might have done better with those quick counter-attacks.
It made perfect sense what Mourinho was doing. Executed to perfection. He had envisioned the game plan to a tee.
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Liverpool are shit
Man of the Match
Runners-up
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13%
Ashley Young
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8%
Scott McTominay
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6%
Eric Bailly
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4%
Romelu Lukaku
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2%
Chris Smalling
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1%
Juan Mata
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1%
Nemanja Matic
Player Ratings
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Score Predictions
348,93,142
- Man Utd win
- Liverpool win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 23% Man Utd 2:1 Liverpool
- 14% Man Utd 1:1 Liverpool
- 12% Man Utd 1:0 Liverpool
- 11% Man Utd 2:0 Liverpool
- 6% Man Utd 0:0 Liverpool
- 5% Man Utd 1:2 Liverpool
- 4% Man Utd 1:3 Liverpool
- 4% Man Utd 3:1 Liverpool
- 4% Man Utd 2:2 Liverpool
- 3% Man Utd 3:0 Liverpool
- 3% Man Utd 5:0 Liverpool
- 2% Man Utd 0:2 Liverpool
- 2% Man Utd 3:2 Liverpool
- 1% Man Utd 0:3 Liverpool
- 1% Man Utd 4:0 Liverpool
- 1% Man Utd 0:1 Liverpool
- 1% Man Utd 0:5 Liverpool
- 0% Man Utd 2:3 Liverpool
- 0% Man Utd 2:4 Liverpool
- 0% Man Utd 3:3 Liverpool
- 0% Man Utd 4:2 Liverpool
- 0% Man Utd 1:4 Liverpool
- 0% Man Utd 4:3 Liverpool
- 0% Man Utd 0:4 Liverpool
- 0% Man Utd 1:5 Liverpool
Match Stats
- Man Utd
- Liverpool
- Possession
- 32% 68%
- Shots
- 5 14
- Shots on Target
- 2 2
- Corners
- 1 13
- Fouls
- 10 16
Referee
Craig Pawson
Man Utd Lineup
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replaced by Jesse Lingard
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replaced by Matteo Darmian
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replaced by Marouane Fellaini
