EL L Europa League Round of 16 1st Leg

Liverpool 2:0 Manchester United

Post-match discussion


Thu, 10 March 2016

We're a Fecking disaster. We've had more draws and defeats than wins under this clueless sack of jizz but he still carries on week in week out spouting what he deems intellectual drivel at each presser and then subsequently getting out done by every peer who comes up against his massive football brain. Even when we win we tend to be hopeless unless against some pub team or De Gea provides heroics. What makes it worse is we are so famous and news worthy that the whole world gets to watch this wank fest and witness what a joke we have become. If this twat remains in charge we deserve all the ridicule we get.
 
No not at all, cause it doesn't matter whether we won, or lost, you still look like someone who can't support his team through the shite.

EDIT: haha


I can support the team no doubt, I attend as many games as possible at great expense although not whilst that crank is in charge as I refuse to pay money to watch this.

I'm just sick to death of watching the same tumescent shite week after week. People have different ways of supporting them some show extreme anger on here, some stay silent or some simply turn the game off and do something else. I chose the latter and I don't regret it one bit after reading the posts on here.
 
LVG post match interview:
- United could not cope with Liverpool pressure, atmosphere was fantastic
- DDG excellent
- Liverpool scored two 'cheap' goals - penalty harsh
- Henderson aka 'the guy who gives the pass from outside' was offside
- Fellaini was one of the best players on the pitch :lol::lol:
- We have to create a similar atmosphere to Liverpool in order to win in the second half

He's beyond parody at this point.
 
It seems like we say this every week, but no, this one was the worst yet.
 
LVG post match interview:
- United could not cope with Liverpool pressure, atmosphere was fantastic
- DDG excellent
- Liverpool scored two 'cheap' goals - penalty harsh
- Henderson aka 'the guy who gives the pass from outside' was offside
- Fellaini was one of the best players on the pitch :lol::lol:
- We have to create a similar atmosphere to Liverpool in order to win in the second half


I cannot believe he said that.
 
I can support the team no doubt, I'm just sick to death of watching the same tumescent shite week after week. People have different ways of supporting them some show extreme anger on here, some stay silent or some simply turn the game off and do something else. I chose the latter and I don't regret it one bit after reading the posts on here.
You quoted a posted of mine and said "haha" because you turned the TV off, and apparently you made the right decision to do so?

What do you want me to say...well done? :lol: Feck off.

If that's how you choose to support your team, then I'm surprised you have any catching up on Breaking Bad at all.
 
First BIB - Schneiderlin was good before he came to us - too many players are failing at OT for it to be coincidence. Did you see Di Maria last night? This is more than just under-performing.

Second BIB - Why???

He's just bottled it since he's come here. Di maria is a bit of a freak case, I imagine the whole break in situ and not playing in the same quality team as real, he just didn't fancy it anymore. Who can blame him. Schneiderlin is just not doing his job.

Second point - I think he has the right idea and trying to impart some serious tactical ideas, which when you see the Arsenal game, they all carried out and we win. Then you see these dire performances, what can a manager do there? Its easy to say the manager must go, but you can't polish a turd
 
I'm starting to think LvG knows Mourinho is replacing him, so he has decided to feck things up as much as he can out of spite.
It does make you wonder. Even the comments after games and in press conferences. Like he doesn't give a toss anymore.
 
Carrick and Herrera were dropped from tonight's line-up from the Arsenal game. They're not kids.
I wasn't talking about them, though I think Herrera should always play, and Mata plays better when he does.

Personally, I think Riley shone when he played but he's not had another chance.
 
I'm bemused and pissed off beyond belief. I just don't get how one week we can be tactically astute and dominate a quality team from the first minute to the last and then the following week we can't even string three passes together. I keep saying i give up then the following week i'm optimistic again but this game has done it for me. He has to go at the end of the season.
 
Thing is, the time we were losing to Roma from the 1st leg in the CL knockout game, we made the atmosphere amazing, it spurred the players on...I just can't see us doing the same next Thursday, everyone is deflated.

LVG has called for us fans to make the atmosphere like the Vermin's tonight (didn't sound that great to me) but he's so unispirational and such a feckwit that it doesn't become the rallying call it should be.

We need to be up for it next week, boo and whistle every one of their players touches. We can't go out to that pile of wank.
 
Rojo -- not good enough, as CB or LB.
Carrick -- he's finished.
Fellaini -- one of the worst players in this club's history.
Mata -- goes missing, has never had the impact here you'd have expected.
Memphis -- in no way consistent, good in three or four games, terrible in the rest.
Martial -- very good first season, looks tired lately.
Schneiderlin -- huge questions surrounding his ability.
Rooney -- ala Carrick.

Rooney?
 
He's just bottled it since he's come here. Di maria is a bit of a freak case, I imagine the whole break in situ and not playing in the same quality team as real, he just didn't fancy it anymore. Who can blame him. Schneiderlin is just not doing his job.

Second point - I think he has the right idea and trying to impart some serious tactical ideas, which when you see the Arsenal game, they all carried out and we win. Then you see these dire performances, what can a manager do there? Its easy to say the manager must go, but you can't polish a turd

It all revolves around whether the manager is responsible for the players' apparent lack of confidence and what seems to be total confusion on the pitch. One of the commentators tonight said that United looked like a group of players who had just been thrown together, and he was right.

Suppose we were top of the league, turning in brilliant performances and were head and shoulders above everyone else. Would you credit just the players or would the manager get the plaudits for bringing out the best of them.

Or put it another way - why do they have a manager of the month? They don't have a player of the month.

If a manager gets credit, why shouldn't it work the other way too.
 
United in white? If not for de Gea they might as well have given everyone a white flag instead of a white shirt.
 
It all revolves around whether the manager is responsible for the players' apparent lack of confidence and what seems to be total confusion on the pitch. One of the commentators tonight said that United looked like a group of players who had just been thrown together, and he was right.

Suppose we were top of the league, turning in brilliant performances and were head and shoulders above everyone else. Would you credit just the players or would the manager get the plaudits for bringing out the best of them.

Or put it another way - why do they have a manager of the month? They don't have a player of the month.

If a manager gets credit, why shouldn't it work the other way too.

Well it depends how were playing. If you just had Ronaldo banging 40 goals, you praise the players assisting him, but mainly Ronaldo. You don't go, great managerial nouse to play him.

The disjointedness could very well be a poor idea or communication by the manager, or it could simply be players not getting it and not doing their roles, ala Schneiderlin. If the manager doesn't have a player akin to Ronaldo and sets his team to play as a unit, then I'd side with the manager and blame the players.

I'm not sure its as black and white as you're making it.

Edit: also if the players aren't getting it, its easier to get rid of manager than a squad. I'm just not so sure why a new manager would dramatically increase our players ability and you can't fault the players?
 
I don't see how anyone, anywhere can remotely think there is a decent manager left in him at this point.

He's completely inept
 
I'm not sure its as black and white as you're making it.

Edit: also if the players aren't getting it, its easier to get rid of manager than a squad. I'm just not so sure why a new manager would dramatically increase our players ability and you can't fault the players?

I'm sure that every player goes through a bad spell - but we're talking about virtually every player, and pretty much every game. That's not normal.

Every time we have 'a run' the team is chopped and changed - sometimes from necessity, but frequently, not.

For instance, Herrera and Mata had a great partnership last year. How can that develop when they're in and out of the side?

There's too much wrong for it just to be the players and imo it started with the stupid philosophy of possession football because it's stifled any natural instinct/ability.
 
Why pick out these two?

Varela, Rojo, Schnederliin, Mata, Depay were all utter shite, far worse than Fellaini and Martial.
Only DDG deserves any credit.
Same shite here of people just picking on players they don't like.

I love Martial but he has been very poor few weeks now... Fellaini should have got the red card in this game and he slows everything down
 
I just don't understand why we have suffered so much with Van Gaal and Moyes...

Surely SAF wasn't as invincible as this, most of these players haven't played under SAF before so we can't even use that excuse.

Other clubs that are successful have never had SAF or anything yet City, Chelsea win titles etc

Why can't we just click, we do have some pretty top talent.. it's like the neverending hangover after SAF.

Next thing we know we will be Liverpool
 
Jesusfeckingwept.
Fellaini best player on the pitch? Wat?
Granted Henderson should have been sent off for his dive after being booked but we deserved to lose that.
Lvg is a facking disgrace and his team is a facking embarrassment.
Liverpool are shit and we are worse. Let that sink in for a moment.
Just fack this prick off out of this club. Now.
 
I just don't understand why we have suffered so much with Van Gaal and Moyes...

Surely SAF wasn't as invincible as this, most of these players haven't played under SAF before so we can't even use that excuse.

Other clubs that are successful have never had SAF or anything yet City, Chelsea win titles etc

Why can't we just click, we do have some pretty top talent.. it's like the neverending hangover after SAF.

Next thing we know we will be Liverpool

We last won the league with players who aren't as good as the ones we have now.

The difference is that Fergie could motivate them and get the best from them, and he created a team, as opposed to eleven individuals.
 
I've never been so angry with van Gaal as I am now. The man is clueless and constantly contradicts himself. From his match rhythm nonsense to his terrible substitutions and tactics. It's an ongoing nightmare.

It is crazy that we haven't sacked the man yet. It's gone past negligence. He is out of depth and there is no recovery. The worst part about it is that the damage he is doing now will spillover to the next couple of seasons.

I thought I could be fine with him until the end of the season but it is unbearable. I just don't know what to do - depressing, gutless performances constantly.
 
Weirdly I'm not too upset. I mean I'm unhappy but I'm sort of becoming used to crap from us, which is a sad indictment of where the club is at the moment.

I think if this happened a few years ago I'd be depressed about the result and performance for weeks whereas I've already moved on.
 
In bullet points:

- Liverpool played better and deserved the win
- The penalty decision was wrong and it should have been a free kick
- A more vigilant linesman would have spotted that Henderson was, albeit only slightly, in an offside position when the ball was passed to him leading up to the second goal
- Liverpool were the hungrier team
- Liverpool were superior, however only because Manchester United were atrociously poor
- We lack penetration and we no longer play with a swagger and a bit of guile
 
I love Martial but he has been very poor few weeks now... Fellaini should have got the red card in this game and he slows everything down
Martial never got much assistance from his team mates. The whole set-up was a shambles.
 
Weirdly I'm not too upset. I mean I'm unhappy but I'm sort of becoming used to crap from us, which is a sad indictment of where the club is at the moment.

I think if this happened a few years ago I'd be depressed about the result and performance for weeks whereas I've already moved on.
My exact thoughts.
 
I just don't understand why we have suffered so much with Van Gaal and Moyes...

Surely SAF wasn't as invincible as this, most of these players haven't played under SAF before so we can't even use that excuse.

Other clubs that are successful have never had SAF or anything yet City, Chelsea win titles etc

Why can't we just click, we do have some pretty top talent.. it's like the neverending hangover after SAF.

Next thing we know we will be Liverpool

Neither manager has instilled beleif or desire into the player let alone passion. Neither have they got best out of individuals or put emphasis on talent. What were seeing is a game plan in theory and not using individual to an advantage, well only 1 Fellaini. This is no way to play the game. I could go on but it would end up a long night for me. Cut the story short, we need a new manager. Ideally Klopp, Tuchel, Poch or even Ranieri.
 
Paul Scholes is so dumb.

"Can you imagine this happening at Madrid, Bayern or Barca?"

Yes.. he managed 2 of those 3 clubs.
 
The worst thing about tonight was the way they mocked us in the final few minutes, passing the ball around gathering olé's from the crowd. They knew we didn't have the potency to hurt them.

And this isn't even Klopp's side, imagine what they'll be like next season.

So embarrassing.
 

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  1. Liverpool
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Possession
56% 44%
Shots
13 5
Shots on Target
8 1
Corners
7 0
Fouls
15 16

Referee

Carlos Velasco Carballo