[DomesticTadpole]

Arrogance runs deep in our club. Team selection was all wrong. No way Jones should have started or Shaw or Rooney.

Not using the reserve games or arranging behind closed door games to keep players fitness up is stupid.

 

[adamwest]

We can't play with ten men and we can't play against ten men. We became absolute shit once they went man down.

A team of fecking donkeys, with the main donkey Pogba. Some individuals actually deserve a praise for the ability to pull such a horrendous shit show.

Phil Jones should never be on the pitch again the fecking liability that he is. Why bring Fellaini and keep him in the middle of the pouch? He should be playing in front of goal. Bunch of miserable twats all of them.

They can go home and shove the league cup medals up their ass, because it ain't worth shit if they can't beat the worst team in the league, man down, at home.

And that fecking ref, are you kidding me?? Absolutely lost the game. Had no control whatsoever. Missed yellows, reds, hand balls, penalties... and 5 minutes of added time?? Really? Should've been 7-8, at least.

And don't start with the 'one of these days' excuse, because it is not. There have been way too much. Unbeaten record doesn't worth shit if we're going to also break the home drawn games record.

We are massively overrated, and any of you (myself included before this game) who thinks we are better than 6th-7th place should have a wake up call. We are fecking shit.

Rant over.

Sums me up, cheers

 

[manunited1919]

1). Why do we do things the hard way?

2). The players are to blame for a terrible performance, but Mourinho is not absolved either. Why the midfield including Rooney & Carrick. Too many changes from a winning side, perhaps showed lack of respect to Bournemouth. EL more important than EPL?

3). What's with 3 changes at once.

4). These players don't seem to handle adversity too well. Pogba expresses his frustration outwardly too much, he needs to learn to channel those emotions better if he aspires to be a real leader.

5). The second half, once Bournemouth decided they were going to defend, we struggled to create. This is partly a result of still having Rooney thru the middle, but where was Mata today? We need Mikhi back.

6). Our wing play has been poor most of the season, with poor decision making and poor deliveries. Today, once Bournemouth decided to defend we were just terrible.

7). Zlatan has been carrying the team and today he wasn't up to it. Can't other players step up?

 

[AlwaysRed66]

I wouldn't mind if Zlatan actually left next season. Next season, the defenders in the league will have studied Zlatan better and it would be foolish to depend on for goals like this season. Zlatan is a great player and I love the fact that he's scored so many goals for us but there have been quite a few times like these when he's gone missing and to miss the penalty was "the icing on the cake". His body language when he took the free kick was pathetic. His conversion ratio to even test the keeper is just abysmal from a free kick. We could have lost the game if the red card had gone against us. He's come in and definitely boosted the spirits at OT but I think we need someone else to come in when Zlatan is misfiring.

I don't see why. We could have had him, Rooney & Pogba all sent off & could have hardly done worse.

 

[redshaw]

Not a surprise to see us struggle against another two banks of four. It's been like this for a few years now. Too many players trying to beat 3 or put an aimless cross in, we can't seem to pass our way through.

The subs did feck all sadly and Fellaini doesn't want to pass more than 8 yards and the game grinds to halt. If he's to come on I'd stick him up top as another target man and have another midfielder on. The second 45 considering we had an extra man was a disjointed mess.

Always remember when we were 1-0 against madrid, Nani got a red and we absolutely capitulated and Ronaldo and co walked the goals in with the extra man. We have no such quality to do that even today.

 

[prateik]

Genuinely annoyed.. Been over an hour and its no better.. First match of the weekend too.. Ruined it.

 

[minoo-utd]

1). Why do we do things the hard way?

2). The players are to blame for a terrible performance, but Mourinho is not absolved either. Why the midfield including Rooney & Carrick. Too many changes from a winning side, perhaps showed lack of respect to Bournemouth. EL more important than EPL?

3). What's with 3 changes at once.

4). These players don't seem to handle adversity too well. Pogba expresses his frustration outwardly too much, he needs to learn to channel those emotions better if he aspires to be a real leader.

5). The second half, once Bournemouth decided they were going to defend, we struggled to create. This is partly a result of still having Rooney thru the middle, but where was Mata today? We need Mikhi back.

6). Our wing play has been poor most of the season, with poor decision making and poor deliveries. Today, once Bournemouth decided to defend we were just terrible.

7). Zlatan has been carrying the team and today he wasn't up to it. Can't other players step up?

E.L maybe the real chance that we have to play in the C.L next season.

 

[AlwaysRed66]

Exactly, he showed Bournemouth no respect.

Anyone starting Rooney is certainly showing no respect the way he plays these days. Championship player at best.

 

[Salus Populi Suprema Lex]

You can't finish top four when drawing at home against ten men Bournemouth; fecking Bournemouth. Not good enough. fecking sort it, Mourinho; this is unacceptable.

 

[sashiko]

hegh Micki, Micki....why the heck are you missing this

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

Coming into the game, many people, including myself, thought we would have bagged quite a few goals against a Bournemouth side, who have conceded the most goals in the league (52) after Swansea (57).

Like for most part of the season, we created enough chances, especially in the first half to be comfortably ahead, but like on so many occasions this season, we failed to put our chances away.

Despite us being so dominant, Bournemouth always carried a threat on the counter, with Afobe and King running in behind, who unsettled our back four.

Having survived the onslaught, Bournemouth levelled up from the penalty spot, courtesy of a rash decision from Phil Jones.

We reacted well to the goal, and even then we created a few chances to go in up at half time, with half chances from Rooney and Ibra.

The way we started the second half suggested we were going to put the game to bed. Again, we created some good chances but couldn't put them away.

Funnily enough, Bournemouth defended better with 10 men than they did with 11, although I don't think we helped the case.

With the additions of Rashford, Lingard and Fellaini, Mourinho obviously wanted to freshen things up and add a bit more pace and power into the side.

You'd think the changes meant we were going to stretch a 10 man Bournemouth and get crosses into the box, which would have made sense, given we had two players in Ibrahimovic and Fellaini who are superb aerially.

However, this was not the case. We spent to many times trying to play our way through a very deep and compact Bournemouth side, who struggled to cope with us in the first half when we got the ball wide and created attacking overloads.

All in all, I think we did enough to win the game, but this is not the first time we've lacked the finishing touch to kill games off.

 

[Gerardo Islas]

From this selection I believe Mourinho see's the Europa League as the best shot to get into Champions League. Not that he tossed the objective of top 4, because this team should have won the game. But playing Jones, Shaw, Rooney and saving Herrera are proof that he wants the best players to be rested for Europa League. Also it shows that he thought this would be an easy win, sadly he couldn't play 4-2-3-1 which is the best tactic for this kind of games, because he wanted to rest Herrera and that only works with him, because there is no body in the team that can cover the defensive mess that Pogba is like him.

There are still a lot of matches to be played, I believe that theres still a chance to get 4th spot.

 

[manunited1919]

E.L maybe the real chance that we have to play in the C.L next season.

Both are still real possibilities. But the rotation today was obviously to rest a few players for the EL against Rostov.

 

[Hugh Jass]

I think the panic settled in. We are acutely aware that we have been misfiring at home, so then the players get desperate.

League is a write off i think. Should concentrate on the Europa.

 

[Salus Populi Suprema Lex]

Both are still real possibilities. But the rotation today was obviously to rest a few players for the EL against Rostov.

Rostov? Who knows the first thing about Rostov? I demand a win at home against Bournemouth with ten men. This isn't good for my blood pressure.

 

[AltiUn]

Hard to blame the manager again.

Why? Tactics were all wrong, picked the wrong team far too much slow in the starting 11, decided not to take off the two worst performing players as well.

 

[johanovic]

Why in Hell was Rooney playing again when Rashford should be on the pitch every time as Rooney showed today he does not contribute anything. Lingard at left back was another one, Shaw was doing ok and giving us support and width. Once again we fail to take the step up when everything is in our favour. I bet you that the young guy Gomes would play better than Rooney, I can not understand Rooney starting a game, I just can´t belive it´s still happening. Then Rooney goes to the press and to " rally his team mates". How about making a difference when you are playing Mr Rooney. Mourinho was critizing the professional attitude of the players before the St Etinne match, was the same thing happening today? There is one thing I would love to see but I know it´s highly unlikely and that is for Mourinho to have Keane back as a coach, he for sure would make the players be on their toes and having a proper go at teams. Draw home against Bournemouth, he would tear them a new one and some of those guys need to be given a wake up call at least, this is just not good enough.

 

[manunited1919]

Rostov? Who knows the first thing about Rostov? I demand a win at home against Bournemouth with ten men. This isn't good for my blood pressure.

I agree with you. Jose outsmarted himself. He should play the strongest possible team in the premier league and in the EL.

 

[gerdm07]

IMO we lost because Ibra and Pogba were almost useless today, and with Rooney starting that meant we had 3 passengers from the start. Even against a poor team that makes it difficult.

Starting Rooney, Shaw and Carrick was a big risk because none of them would be effective over 90 minutes in a tough game. That's 3 subs that would be needed unless it's a cakewalk. I'm not sure of the thought process there with Mo.

And I'm others pointing out the Lingard and Fellaini subs and then there positioning.

 

[siw2007]

Very frustrating game and result. After our EFL cup win I thought that we could use our momentum and confidence to push aside one of the most off form teams in the country. Alas, the game reminded us of our existing frailties and that there is still a lot of work to be done.
The first half, I felt we played really well with good pressing and creative play, we had a lot of chances but Boruc had the game of his life (another keeper) and it was a poked out leg by Rojo that caught the keeper out. Second half was totally different, Bournemouth were far more organised and resolute with 10 men. We looked bereft of ideas and inspiration and really ended up frustrating ourselves. Though we should have been 5-0 up in the 1st half, we didn't deserve to score in the second and ended up being a poor display overall.

 

[devips]

Talk of finishing: we even miss penalties!

 

[bucky]

That bad, eh? Couldn't watch the game. Shame, we didn't take the opportunity.

 

[D2Z]

Mourinho better then Conte, like feck he is. Im absolutely gutted.

 

[sammsky1]

Thierry Henry got it right when he said the game 'became weird'. Our team became emotionally embroiled on the triple incident at end of 1st half and so lost its focus. For that Mourinho should take some criticism as he should have the ability to sort that out in his half time team talk.

Up until the triple substitution, the team was playing with an emotional hangover, Zlatan especially looked preoccupied and unfocussed, which eventually resulted in the missed penalty.

Of course the referee had a shocker, but in reality we only benefitted from his decisions: he never saw Mings stamp so could not do anything about that, but he should have sent Zlatan off for the elbow. And our penalty decision could easily have been not given.

In hindsight, Mourinho also got the substitutions wrong: he should have IMO kept Rooney on and taken off Zlatan, replaced Pogba with Herrera kept on Carrick instead of Shaw.

Pogba, Zlatan, Martial all played very poorly but we should know how to dismantle a 10 man Bournemouth. For that, I think Mourinho is culpable today and has to take the eventual responsibility. We don't have enough midfield game changers off the bench and so will have to increase of strength in depth in the summer.

Very very frustrating, especially if we lose Zlatan for an expected and deserved ban for his elbow on Mings.

 

[pocco]

When they went to 10 men the thought crossed my mind that it might be worse for us now if they sit back. We cant unlock teams that play this way. This is why Mata just isn't good enough at what he does for me because this is supposed to be where a player like him makes the difference. Instead he seems to only contribute when the circumstances are preferential and the whole team is playing well.

 

[horsechoker]

Mourinho better then Conte, like feck he is. Im absolutely gutted.

The shiny new toy is always better than the old hack you're used to.

 

[El Zoido]

Genuinely annoyed.. Been over an hour and its no better.. First match of the weekend too.. Ruined it.

Yep, weekend ruined. Blew my acca at the first hurdle too. I was looking forward to this day of sport too, now I'm just proper miserable.

 

[Salus Populi Suprema Lex]

How can't we beat a ten men Bournemouth at home? These kind of results are going to kill us. Totally furious right now.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

When they went to 10 men the thought crossed my mind that it might be worse for us now if they sit back. We cant unlock teams that play this way. This is why Mata just isn't good enough art what hee dries fort me because this is supposed to be where a player like him makes the difference. Instead he seems to only contribute when the circumstances are preferential and the whole team is playing well.

It was worse, unless you are going to stretch them as you say it is like playing against a brick wall.

 

[groovyalbert]

That was absolutely abysmal. Seething after that. We totally deserve 6th place, and if that's how we go about a game which can unquestionably change that, that's where we'll be by the end of the season. Pathetic.

 

[#07]

I think the panic settled in. We are acutely aware that we have been misfiring at home, so then the players get desperate.

League is a write off i think. Should concentrate on the Europa.

Panic sets in far too easily with this current set of players. They are so easy to knock mentally. Shakiness and refusal to accept responsibility, epitomised by Pogba's lay off to Fellaini in the box, is the defining feature of this weak squad.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Panic sets in far too easily with this current set of players. They are so easy to knock mentally. Shakiness and refusal to accept responsibility, epitomised by Pogba's lay off to Fellaini in the box, is the defining feature of this weak squad.

The players let Bournemouth get under their skin and the referee let it happen. They needed to stay calm instead got involved in arguments and it ruined their play.

 

[MadMike]

Panic sets in far too easily with this current set of players. They are so easy to knock mentally. Shakiness and refusal to accept responsibility, epitomised by Pogba's lay off to Fellaini in the box, is the defining feature of this weak squad.

We have scraped last minute results too. One small consolation compared to last year, is that at least we create the chances to score and chase the game till the final whistle. With LVG we would be losing 1-0 and would be playing possession football in midfield offering no threat.

There does seem to be a mentality issue with winning at OT. It's the effect too many draws and too many missed chances have on you.

 

[goin4glory]

Thought Robbie played well.

 

[horsechoker]

Thought Robbie played well.

That's made me feel better after today's game.

 

[Quizierda]

And some on here are actually talking about competing for the CL next season.. Teams like Real, Barca, Bayern, PSG, Juve, Atléti ect. ect. would destroy us!!

We are simply lacking leaders. This was so obvious in the last twenty minutes. While top teams like Bayern, Real Barca et al keep their cool our bunch of players went crazy just rushing the bass stupidly out of the field. With this kind of mentality we will never be able to go back from where we've dropped a few years ago.

Ibra was always gonna miss this penalty but no one had the courage to take the ball from him, as all hide behind him. Just poor..!

But hey: 17 games unbeaten, League Cup winners, all hail god Zlatan, let's all laugh at Liverpool - we are the best..

 

[RedDevil-85]

Shocking performance,a team of overpaid bottlers.
I cant fecking wait till the summer when we buy a striker (hopefully Griezmann)
Absolutely sick of seeing us burn all these huge chances,costing us points left and right.
I dont think we will end up in top 4,we are not good enough and the squad mentality is weak as feck.

 

[Acole9]

The first 20 to 30 minutes was excellent to watch from both sides, then unfortunately all the nonsense set in.

We gave away a stupid penalty, yes Mings and Ibrahimovic should've been sent off but it's highly likely the FA will punish them retrospectively (unless they bottle it) personally I don't think Surman should've been sent off and tactically this knocked the stuffing out of the game as a spectacle.

Not making any excuses for our performance though, completely gutless and embarrassing to watch. I feel sorry for the paying fans there today. We should've won this match and had plenty of chances to do so.

 

[markhrad]

Early goals are crucial against weak teams. It seems like the longer you take to score the luckier they get.
Anyway no-one comes out of this game blameless, except for de Gea.

For the first time, that I have noticed, Zlatan looked completed knackered at the end of the league cup final and I think should have started on the bench today. Unfortunately, he will have more than enough time to recover during his expected upcoming ban. Of course if he had scored one of his early chances I would not be bringing this up now.
We do not have any world class defenders so my expectations are low and the key to our keeping a clean sheet is De Gea.
Pogba is an enigma, he has everything you could ask for in terms of physical attributes, tall, strong, relatively fast, great touch and is two-footed but something seems missing. I know its easy to say that he lacks a high football IQ but that is an intangible I think is too easily banded about.
There is no way that I would start Rooney and Mata together. The former is not good enough and the latter, if he does not do his sneaky goal bit, offers very little to our build up play.
This is one game that I would have started Rashford up front flanked by martial and lingard with Zlatan and mata to come on if things did not work out.
Regardless this should have been an easy 3 points and now I am left feeling a bit depressed.

 

[RedPed]

Feck me, the over-reaction and number of stupid threads popping up today is absurd! I'm gutted we didn't win today but we had the chance to win it. Ibra scores the penalty and it would have been happy days. He's allowed an off-day having played virtually every game this season and saving our asses so many times. The result isn't that catastrophic and we did start off really well. People really need to get a grip.

Rostov? Who knows the first thing about Rostov? I demand a win at home against Bournemouth with ten men. This isn't good for my blood pressure.

I watched their game against Tom' Tomsk yesterday. Rostov put 6 past them. They are bottom of the league though but Rostov were good going forward. They have quite a bit pace and some decent wingers. If we played like that against them, we're in a for a bit of a shock.