EL W Europa League Play-off 2nd Leg

Manchester United 2:1 Barcelona

Post-match discussion


Thu, 23 February 2023

Almost 5am and I’m just getting back to my hotel. Enjoyed that one…
 
I/We appreciate your POVs, no reason to apologize but shows your character and awareness, so major props to you. You're one of the more valid and well thought out posters/people here compared to the hyperbole that is spouted especially during matchdays and in general!

Overall you're right, but even then, the adjustment the team will make (hopefully it'll be a net positive as many of us assume) and the expectations and compromises supporters have will be interesting and we'll have to get on with it.

Second that, @Adnan is a quality contributor.
 
Fred - Speaker of post match gibberish, and only player on earth who has the potential to finish the season with more motm awards than appearances, due to frequently winning them for both teams

Antony - ffs use your right foot, no your RIGHT foo....oh never mind as I was saying the left is fine.

Martinez - he can't even give his team mate some water without doing it so aggressively it looks like someone force feeding a baby in some kind of child cruelty camp.

Rashford - guess he was due a game off from single handedly retiring half the opposition back 4.

Garnacho/Sancho - whichever one starts looks rubbish, and whichever one comes on to replace them looks great. Well in Garnacho's case looks like they've glued some cheese to their head in an attempt to blend in as a human, but still.

Lewandowski - I was underwhelmed. Why is he always flopping his body around and generally behaving like a fish?

The ref - what a weirdo. The penalty wasn't completely outrageous but he spent a good 20 minutes of the game making it illegal for Barcelona to lose the ball,then in the last 10 minutes seemed to decide everything any Barcelona player did constituted a foul.

All in all 100/10 to every player
I've missed you doing these!
 
It's no mean feat beating these Spanish teams, never mind Uefalona over 2 legs. The kind of tie that felt like a CL semi.
 
I don't believe De Gea is one of the best shot stoppers in the world and I'm sure the statistics will back me up on that.

Of course we need a good shot stopper and I'm sure there will be good shot stoppers that the scouts will know about. But for me it's about taking positive steps towards creating a team that fits the methods of ten Hag. A keeper who is commanding against the high ball and technically secure in possesion will aid the collective where less defending will have to be done by the outfield players.

The below is what I saw from De Gea tonight and the statistics confirm that. That's no where near good enough in comparison to the competition, when Ter Stegen
had a 90% completion rate.

De Gea had a pass completion of 54% compared to 90% for Ter Stegen. De Gea made 15 long passes completing only 4. Ter Stegen made 18 long passes completing 14, and only misplaced 4 passes from a total of 37 passes made. Casemiro saved us today, by making some fantastic blocks but I'm not sure how long ten Hag will want to carry De Gea in the build up transition.

https://www.sofascore.com/manchester-united-barcelona/Ksrgb
I do think we have to move on from DDG as it is imperative to move towards becoming a possession based team that can suffocate opponents if we want to win big trophies again given ETHs philosophy as well.

Having said that even if DDG doesn’t suit us right now I still firmly believe that he’s one of the greats of his era and an all time one for us. Some of his shot stopping over this past decade has been absolutely phenomenal and hence regardless I’d rank him higher (in all time stakes) than plenty of ball playing keepers.
 
So gutted I wasn't able to watch the match. What a shame really :mad:

Anyway just watch the HL and that's one of the softest pens I've seen in my life if not the softest. Sure Bruno did touch that guy but no way that'd be enough for him to fall so beautifully like that. If that's a pen there would be probably 10 every match or how the feck the defenders supposed to defend especially in corner kicks with the usual amount of grab and push.

Feck those cheating cnuts they cheated and still lost :lol: :devil:
 
Fred - Speaker of post match gibberish, and only player on earth who has the potential to finish the season with more motm awards than appearances, due to frequently winning them for both teams

Antony - ffs use your right foot, no your RIGHT foo....oh never mind as I was saying the left is fine.

Martinez - he can't even give his team mate some water without doing it so aggressively it looks like someone force feeding a baby in some kind of child cruelty camp.

Rashford - guess he was due a game off from single handedly retiring half the opposition back 4.

Garnacho/Sancho - whichever one starts looks rubbish, and whichever one comes on to replace them looks great. Well in Garnacho's case looks like they've glued some cheese to their head in an attempt to blend in as a human, but still.

Lewandowski - I was underwhelmed. Why is he always flopping his body around and generally behaving like a fish?

The ref - what a weirdo. The penalty wasn't completely outrageous but he spent a good 20 minutes of the game making it illegal for Barcelona to lose the ball,then in the last 10 minutes seemed to decide everything any Barcelona player did constituted a foul.

All in all 100/10 to every player
:lol:
Feels like the good old days
 
I was surprised by how poor Barcelona were in possession. Neither team looked that competent in the first half. Barca created very little and wasted decent situations with poor passes in the final third.
 
It's no mean feat beating these Spanish teams, never mind Uefalona over 2 legs. The kind of tie that felt like a CL semi.
It felt like it.

With those refs in both legs, it felt like playing against 12 players. I'm really happy that we found a way to overcome Barcelona and knock them out of the Europa League.

Whatever Ten Hag said at halftime, he sure brought the belief up to another level. After halftime, all we needed was an early goal (which we got) before we would take our game right at Barcelona and then get the second goal that made the difference.
 
So gutted I wasn't able to watch the match. What a shame really :mad:

Anyway just watch the HL and that's one of the softest pens I've seen in my life if not the softest. Sure Bruno did touch that guy but no way that'd be enough for him to fall so beautifully like that. If that's a pen there would be probably 10 every match or how the feck the defenders supposed to defend especially in corner kicks with the usual amount of grab and push.

Feck those cheating cnuts they cheated and still lost :lol: :devil:
Why couldn't you watch it? I couldn't either, cause my country is run by cnuts of the highest order.
 
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Nothing better than waking up after a great win! Superb second half, get in there!
 
Why couldn't you watch it? I couldn't either, cause it country is run by cnuts of the highest order.
Oh my country is also run by the cnuts of the highest order too but that's not the reason for me. The match started at 3 AM here. I was trying my best to be awake waiting for the match but I simply fell asleep :D :mad:

Guess I'm getting old can't sleep late anymore :(

P/s: I'm watching the full replays now if you're interested I can PM you the links :)
 
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Oh god this is the sweetest thing I've read this week:

But Barça fans should be proud of this team. They definitely weren’t embarrassed in Europe and held their own against arguably the best team in the world right now on both legs.

From the pro-Barca Barca Blaugranes
 
Oh god this is the sweetest thing I've read this week:

But Barça fans should be proud of this team. They definitely weren’t embarrassed in Europe and held their own against arguably the best team in the world right now on both legs.

From the pro-Barca Barca Blaugranes

Ok so with Arsenal being overhyped and lucky with always playing one match a week, City faltering and the PL being the strongest league, is our form the best at the moment? Is there any truth at all to that statement? Real looked pretty damn good the other night.
 
I genuinely think we have enough to push for the league. It may take a push, but with Sancho back, Rashford in form and AWB being good again, it really bolsters are squad. We also have enough quality to beat any team and enuugh consistent performers to win games consistently as well.

Our only issues for this season are:

a. Both City and Arsenal are also quality teams. They both have more well rounded squads and actual strikers in their team
b. The current gap. 5 points behind with an extra game played is good enough to be in the title race, but is far enough for it to not to be a straight shoot out. We will have to hope for some slip ups, with the knowledge that we don't necessarily have the firepower ( due to not having a striker) to pull through more challenging games consistently.

I do also think that we are a summer away from being genuinely strong champions league contenders. I don't think many teams are better than us in Europe as it stands. With this manager, and the current players we have, if we can upgrade the position next to Casemiro, sign a striker and compile more depth through loan returns and cheap forays into the market, we can have a squad that can challenge for everything.
The issue right now is fatigue and if Rashford and Casemiro are out injured.

Is we had a deeper squad I'd agree but being in 4 comps will stretch us.
 
That atmosphere was something else in there, before, during and after that place was bouncing.
 
The ref behaved like he’d been offered a lump of cash from Barcelona in that first half and then on the hour got a message in his earpiece to say United have topped the Barca offer ……
 
Delighted with that second half performance and glad that someone either spoke to the ref at half time or he watched a few things back maybe... because the pressure Fernandes put Rafinha under for the goal would have been blown up as a foul.

Glad we beat the diving cheats and stuffed their levers up their arse.

There was about 1000 pages of transfer forum venom added to that kick of the ball from Fernandes into FdJ's lower portions too.

Anthony transformed the right wing...he covers so much ground so quickly and tracks back to help the team.
So not only me but Bruno also browses the CAF regularly. :lol:
 
I didn't mention the most important stats but rather alluded to the development of a team towards the most important stats which are winning the biggest titles like the champions league within a defined style of play. And Ter Stegen has aided that development for Luis Enrique where they've won the biggest honours within a play style that was developed over time.
He is talking about the result. The rest is w**k.
 
Why couldn't you watch it? I couldn't either, cause my country is run by cnuts of the highest order.

Competitions are now scattered between channels and it’s sometimes impossible to understand where a certain game will air.
 
So that’s Liverpool, arsenal, spurs, city, now Barcelona all beaten at old trafford. Ten Hag wasn’t joking when he said old Trafford was going to be a fortress.
 
Antony brings such a balance to the team, we can notice it when he's not playing. Even when he's not doing well going forward, he puts a real shift pressing and defending.
 
So that’s Liverpool, arsenal, spurs, city, now Barcelona all beaten at old trafford. Ten Hag wasn’t joking when he said old Trafford was going to be a fortress.
We have 2 losses, 2 draws and 18 wins at home in all competitions this season.
Lost to Brighton in the first game, which was fair enough.
Lost to Sociedad thanks to a bullshit penalty.
Drew to Newcastle who we just couldn't break down and were a victim to their shenanigans.
Drew to Leeds where we had major brainfarts but could have still won it.

All in all, we've been great. 2nd best home record in the league behind City.
 
Shaw deserves massive credit for overall play, and the backheel especially was delightful. I know I’m repeating myself, but... Another thought: BT sport have all the discussion on pitchside. No studio vibe, or analysis. To get away with that you need great skill and presence of mind. What’s-her-name seemed a bit out of her depth. I like her as a presenter usually, but. Fans were singing RVP song, she seemed to miss it. Missed jokes, too, and seemed tense and uncomfortable generally. With Scholes (who is improving, but still awkward, very naturally shy), Owen H, who is kind of polite and academic, it felt curiously stilted at the end, with the stadium still full and the stands going mad. You’d miss Ferdinand or even Neville to catch the mood. Not Scholesy … ‘no… it’s great, yeah’.
 
I was surprised by how poor Barcelona were in possession. Neither team looked that competent in the first half. Barca created very little and wasted decent situations with poor passes in the final third.

Barcelona really don't need to resort to the spoiling and downright cheating tactics because they have enough players of quality.
But the fact that they had to do that just shows how much they fear United.
They represent everything I detest in modern football and deserved to be beaten.
 
Antony brings such a balance to the team, we can notice it when he's not playing. Even when he's not doing well going forward, he puts a real shift pressing and defending.
Hugely underrated aspect of his game. Man Utd are better when Antony plays.
 
Antony brings such a balance to the team, we can notice it when he's not playing. Even when he's not doing well going forward, he puts a real shift pressing and defending.
Makes a huge difference to us playing out from the back too. I, like most, was expecting a flying winger but the amount of times he holds the ball in our own half, drawing in two or three challengers and finds a way out is impressive and opens up a lot of breaks down the right side.
 
Shaw deserves massive credit for overall play, and the backheel especially was delightful. I know I’m repeating myself, but... Another thought: BT sport have all the discussion on pitchside. No studio vibe, or analysis. To get away with that you need great skill and presence of mind. What’s-her-name seemed a bit out of her depth. I like her as a presenter usually, but. Fans were singing RVP song, she seemed to miss it. Missed jokes, too, and seemed tense and uncomfortable generally. With Scholes (who is improving, but still awkward, very naturally shy), Owen H, who is kind of polite and academic, it felt curiously stilted at the end, with the stadium still full and the stands going mad. You’d miss Ferdinand or even Neville to catch the mood. Not Scholesy … ‘no… it’s great, yeah’.
Yeah the pundits were a bit shit. Not sure what Scholes brings to the table to be honest.
 

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Score Predictions

195,21,15
  • Man Utd win
  • Barcelona win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 42% Man Utd 2:1 Barcelona
  • 14% Man Utd 3:1 Barcelona
  • 13% Man Utd 2:0 Barcelona
  • 6% Man Utd 3:2 Barcelona
  • 5% Man Utd 1:2 Barcelona
  • 4% Man Utd 1:0 Barcelona
  • 3% Man Utd 1:1 Barcelona
  • 3% Man Utd 3:0 Barcelona
  • 3% Man Utd 2:2 Barcelona
  • 1% Man Utd 5:0 Barcelona
  • 1% Man Utd 0:1 Barcelona
  • 1% Man Utd 0:2 Barcelona
  • 1% Man Utd 4:2 Barcelona
  • 1% Man Utd 2:3 Barcelona
  • 0% Man Utd 6:0 Barcelona
  • 0% Man Utd 0:0 Barcelona
  • 0% Man Utd 1:3 Barcelona
  • 0% Man Utd 0:3 Barcelona
  • 0% Man Utd 4:1 Barcelona
  • 0% Man Utd 0:5 Barcelona
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Match Stats

  1. Man Utd
  2. Barcelona
Possession
42% 58%
Shots
12 6
Shots on Target
5 3
Corners
1 2
Fouls
13 12

Referee

Clement Turpin